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    Why would anyone actually want to do this? Surely stolen units can
    still be traced at the point where the battery replacement is made.



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  2. #2
    Steve Terry
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    Re: Ziphone allows users to change the IMEI number of iPhones


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:ce33c9ba-d572-4db5-ac11-6b372c9794f9@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
    > Why would anyone actually want to do this? Surely stolen units can
    > still be traced at the point where the battery replacement is made.
    >

    What the 'uck is Ziphone?

    e.g. Nokias from DCT4 have factory programmed IMEI Roms,
    it requires surface mount soldering equipment to remove the Rom and replace
    it

    Steve Terry





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    Richard Colton
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    Re: Ziphone allows users to change the IMEI number of iPhones


    "Steve Terry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:ce33c9ba-d572-4db5-ac11-6b372c9794f9@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
    >> Why would anyone actually want to do this? Surely stolen units can
    >> still be traced at the point where the battery replacement is made.
    >>

    > What the 'uck is Ziphone?


    It's a Jailbreak utility for the iToy.

    > e.g. Nokias from DCT4 have factory programmed IMEI Roms,
    > it requires surface mount soldering equipment to remove the Rom and
    > replace it


    Not on all Nokia's unfortunately. Even some BB5 handsets are pretty trivial
    with the right equipment. Anyway, AFAICT ZiPhone doesn't offer anything
    other than the usual Jailbreak and activation havks.

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    www.ThePhoneLocker.co.uk
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    Road_Hog
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    Re: Ziphone allows users to change the IMEI number of iPhones


    "Richard Colton" <webmaster@ NO PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> wrote in
    message news:[email protected]...
    > Not on all Nokia's unfortunately. Even some BB5 handsets are pretty
    > trivial with the right equipment. Anyway, AFAICT ZiPhone doesn't offer
    > anything other than the usual Jailbreak and activation havks.


    Version 2.5 and up allows you to change the IMEI.





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    Andy Burns
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    Re: Ziphone allows users to change the IMEI number of iPhones

    On 11/03/2008 07:50, Road_Hog wrote:

    > Version 2.5 and up allows you to change the IMEI.


    So it's illegal to use then.



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    Simon C
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    Re: Ziphone allows users to change the IMEI number of iPhones

    "Andy Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > On 11/03/2008 07:50, Road_Hog wrote:
    >
    >> Version 2.5 and up allows you to change the IMEI.

    >
    > So it's illegal to use then.


    Indeed - unlocking via ziphone is indeed illegal now in that case. You
    would have to unlock it via a non-IMEI-changing-capable utility instead to
    do it legally.





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    ric
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    Re: Ziphone allows users to change the IMEI number of iPhones

    On 10 Mar, 17:07, [email protected] wrote:
    > Why would anyone actually want to do this? *Surely stolen units can
    > still be traced at the point where the battery replacement is made.


    it's fairly obvious, isn't it? stolen units are barred from the
    network by IMEI number, thereby made useless.
    you are aware that changing the IMEI is an imprisonable offence in the
    UK, and in Ireland I believe carries up to a 5 year sentence?



  8. #8

    Re: Ziphone allows users to change the IMEI number of iPhones

    On Mar 11, 12:01*pm, ric <[email protected]> wrote:
    > On 10 Mar, 17:07, [email protected] wrote:
    >
    > > Why would anyone actually want to do this? *Surely stolen units can
    > > still be traced at the point where the battery replacement is made.

    >
    > it's fairly obvious, isn't it? *stolen units are barred from the
    > network by IMEI number, thereby made useless.
    > you are aware that changing the IMEI is an imprisonable offence in the
    > UK, and in Ireland I believe carries up to a 5 year sentence?


    Obviously I would never do this.

    My concern is that if a thug steals someone's iPhone, they will be
    able to resell it to fund their crack/heroine addiction. (assuming
    they know about ziphone). However, at some stage the unit will be
    sent to Apple for the battery replacement. Apple will be able to
    check the iPhone's serial number (which, unlike the IMEI number,
    cannot be altered).

    I want the creator of ziphone to remove this function. But it may
    already be too late.



  9. #9
    Richard Colton
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    Re: Ziphone allows users to change the IMEI number of iPhones


    "Road_Hog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Richard Colton" <webmaster@ NO PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> wrote in
    > message news:[email protected]...
    >> Not on all Nokia's unfortunately. Even some BB5 handsets are pretty
    >> trivial with the right equipment. Anyway, AFAICT ZiPhone doesn't offer
    >> anything other than the usual Jailbreak and activation havks.

    >
    > Version 2.5 and up allows you to change the IMEI.


    I stand corrected, thanks for that.

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    www.ThePhoneLocker.co.uk
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    Richard Colton
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    Re: Ziphone allows users to change the IMEI number of iPhones


    "Simon C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "Andy Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> On 11/03/2008 07:50, Road_Hog wrote:
    >>
    >>> Version 2.5 and up allows you to change the IMEI.

    >>
    >> So it's illegal to use then.

    >
    > Indeed - unlocking via ziphone is indeed illegal now in that case. You
    > would have to unlock it via a non-IMEI-changing-capable utility instead to
    > do it legally.


    Rubbish.

    Most of the commercial unlocking equipment is capable of manipulating IMEI
    data. Posession of the equipment is not illegal, but using it to alter the
    IMEI certainly is.

    --
    Unlock Your Phone's Potential
    www.UselessInfo.org.uk
    www.ThePhoneLocker.co.uk
    www.GSM-Solutions.co.uk





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    Iain
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    Re: Ziphone allows users to change the IMEI number of iPhones

    [email protected] wrote:

    > heroine addiction.


    So they like to see lots of films?



  12. #12
    Simon C
    Guest

    Re: Ziphone allows users to change the IMEI number of iPhones

    "ChrisM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In message [email protected],
    > Simon C <[email protected]> Proclaimed from the tallest tower:
    >
    >> "Andy Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >>> On 11/03/2008 07:50, Road_Hog wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Version 2.5 and up allows you to change the IMEI.
    >>>
    >>> So it's illegal to use then.

    >>
    >> Indeed - unlocking via ziphone is indeed illegal now in that case. You
    >> would have to unlock it via a non-IMEI-changing-capable utility
    >> instead to do it legally.

    >
    > Surely it's only illegal if you ACTUALLY change the IMEI. If you use the
    > software, but don't use that particular feature then you're breaking no
    > laws...(?)
    >
    > You could use a steak-knife to stab someone(which is obviously illegal),
    > but it's not illegal to own a knife if you only use it for legal
    > purposes...
    >
    > (Or am I missing a point, does it unlock the iPhone by changing its
    > IMEI...?)


    Well having reminded myself of the specifics, the relevent piece of UK law
    (Mobile Telephones (Re-Programming) Act 2002) actually makes owning and
    supplying anything which can be used to reprogram or interfere with an IMEI
    an offence, provided there is an intention to use it for that purpose (even
    if no IMEI changing actually takes place).

    So in effect merely owning "the knife" (so to speak) in this case can be
    illegal, even if you don't stab anyone with it. However, since IMEI
    changing is only one function among many of the ziphone software, you should
    be able to argue that you never had any intention to use that particular
    function.

    So therefore I *think* (though IANAL) you should be able to use ziphone to
    unlock an iphone legally, however to be sure it might be worth seeking a
    jailbreaking tool without IMEI changing functionality to be sure.





  13. #13
    ric
    Guest

    Re: Ziphone allows users to change the IMEI number of iPhones

    On 11 Mar, 13:05, [email protected] wrote:
    > On Mar 11, 12:01*pm, ric <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > On 10 Mar, 17:07, [email protected] wrote:

    >
    > > > Why would anyone actually want to do this? *Surely stolen units can
    > > > still be traced at the point where the battery replacement is made.

    >
    > > it's fairly obvious, isn't it? *stolen units are barred from the
    > > network by IMEI number, thereby made useless.
    > > you are aware that changing the IMEI is an imprisonable offence in the
    > > UK, and in Ireland I believe carries up to a 5 year sentence?

    >
    > Obviously I would never do this.
    >
    > My concern is that if a thug steals someone's iPhone, they will be
    > able to resell it to fund their crack/heroine addiction. (assuming
    > they know about ziphone). *However, at some stage the unit will be
    > sent to Apple for the battery replacement. * Apple will be able to
    > check the iPhone's serial number (which, unlike the IMEI number,
    > cannot be altered).
    >
    > I want the creator of ziphone to remove this function. *But it may
    > already be too late.


    an addiction to heroines sounds like it would be an exciting, if
    stressful, series of relationships...



  14. #14
    Simon C
    Guest

    Re: Ziphone allows users to change the IMEI number of iPhones

    "Richard Colton" <webmaster@ NO PORK PRODUCTS uselessinfo.org.uk> wrote in
    message news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Simon C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> "Andy Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >>> On 11/03/2008 07:50, Road_Hog wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Version 2.5 and up allows you to change the IMEI.
    >>>
    >>> So it's illegal to use then.

    >>
    >> Indeed - unlocking via ziphone is indeed illegal now in that case. You
    >> would have to unlock it via a non-IMEI-changing-capable utility instead
    >> to do it legally.

    >
    > Rubbish.
    >
    > Most of the commercial unlocking equipment is capable of manipulating IMEI
    > data. Posession of the equipment is not illegal, but using it to alter
    > the IMEI certainly is.


    My bad. My memory failed me and I was recalling that owning or supplying
    anything that can change or manipulate IMEI is an offence, however I had
    forgotten that it was only provided there is an intention to use it for that
    purpose.

    So yes, legitimate users of ziphone are probably on the whole ok (though
    those who supply it might not if they reasonably expect it to be used for
    IMEI-changing purposes).





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    Ivor Jones
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    Re: Ziphone allows users to change the IMEI number of iPhones


    "ric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]

    [snip]

    : an addiction to heroines sounds like it would be an
    : exciting, if stressful, series of relationships...

    Especially if they run around in black leather waving swords a lot ;-)

    Ivor




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