Re: Mobile Internet and BBC listen again

On 2008-03-18, Simon C <SimonC@nospamthanks.com> wrote:
> "Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnftnuia.cuu.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net...
>
>> As far as the £7.50 "O2 Web bolt-on" is concerned, streaming is
>> specifically forbidden:-
>>
>> .-----<http://www.o2.co.uk/termsconditions/tariffsandboltons0153>
>> | [...]
>> |
>> | *O2 Web Bolt On*
>> |
>> | 1. The O2 Web Bolt On provides you unlimited use of O2's 3G/GPRS Mobile
>> | Data Services for Permitted Uses only for £7.50 per month.
>> | 2. Permitted Uses are use of your SIM card within a handheld mobile
>> device
>> | for the purposes of internet browsing only. Any other use of the O2
>> Web
>> | Bolt On will not be a Permitted Use, including but not limited to:
>> | 1. Email;
>> | 2. Use with Data Cards or Modems;
>> | 3. Instant Messaging,
>> | 4. IP Telephony,
>> | 5. Point 2 Point file sharing and file transfer,
>> | 6. VoIP (e.g. SkypeT),
>> | 7. Video and TV streaming,
>> | 8. Slingboxes; and
>> | 9. Use in conjunction with routers.
>> | 3. O2 reserves the right to impose standard browsing charges for usage
>> at
>> | any time if O2 reasonably suspects you of using the service for uses
>> | other than the Permitted Uses or abuse of the service, including
>> using
>> | an atypical volume of data as compared to normal users of the O2 Web
>> | Bolt On, which will normally be less than 200MB of usage within a one
>> | month period (termed "fair usage").
>> |
>> | [...]
>> '-----
>
> I can't see those terms on that page for non-business customers - perhaps
> they have changed the page now? The only terms concerning the web bolt on
> that I can see that appear to be applicable to consumers are within the Pay
> Monthly standard tariff terms & conditions:
>
> *****

[...]

That URL still exists; the block of text I quoted is about a third of the
way down the page - just use your browser's 'find in page' or equivalent
tool to look for

web bolt on

which occurs several times. The block of text you quoted is there too;
that page has been designed to confuse, but the general advice that
streaming is not permitted and that there is a fair usage limit of 200MB
per month is still my best interpretation of it. What O2 atually choose
to do in practice about any particular user's usage is anybody's guess.

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-- Whiskers
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"Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:slrnfu049k.8t8.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net...
> On 2008-03-18, Simon C <SimonC@nospamthanks.com> wrote:
>> "Whiskers" <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote in message
>> news:slrnftnuia.cuu.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net...
>>
>>> As far as the £7.50 "O2 Web bolt-on" is concerned, streaming is
>>> specifically forbidden:-
>>>
>>> .-----<http://www.o2.co.uk/termsconditions/tariffsandboltons0153>
>>> | [...]
>>> |
>>> | *O2 Web Bolt On*
>>> |
>>> | 1. The O2 Web Bolt On provides you unlimited use of O2's 3G/GPRS
>>> Mobile
>>> | Data Services for Permitted Uses only for £7.50 per month.
>>> | 2. Permitted Uses are use of your SIM card within a handheld mobile
>>> device
>>> | for the purposes of internet browsing only. Any other use of the
>>> O2
>>> Web
>>> | Bolt On will not be a Permitted Use, including but not limited to:
>>> | 1. Email;
>>> | 2. Use with Data Cards or Modems;
>>> | 3. Instant Messaging,
>>> | 4. IP Telephony,
>>> | 5. Point 2 Point file sharing and file transfer,
>>> | 6. VoIP (e.g. SkypeT),
>>> | 7. Video and TV streaming,
>>> | 8. Slingboxes; and
>>> | 9. Use in conjunction with routers.
>>> | 3. O2 reserves the right to impose standard browsing charges for usage
>>> at
>>> | any time if O2 reasonably suspects you of using the service for
>>> uses
>>> | other than the Permitted Uses or abuse of the service, including
>>> using
>>> | an atypical volume of data as compared to normal users of the O2
>>> Web
>>> | Bolt On, which will normally be less than 200MB of usage within a
>>> one
>>> | month period (termed "fair usage").
>>> |
>>> | [...]
>>> '-----
>>
>> I can't see those terms on that page for non-business customers - perhaps
>> they have changed the page now? The only terms concerning the web bolt
>> on
>> that I can see that appear to be applicable to consumers are within the
>> Pay
>> Monthly standard tariff terms & conditions:
>>
>> *****
>
> [...]
>
> That URL still exists; the block of text I quoted is about a third of the
> way down the page - just use your browser's 'find in page' or equivalent
> tool to look for
>
> web bolt on
>
> which occurs several times. The block of text you quoted is there too;
> that page has been designed to confuse, but the general advice that
> streaming is not permitted and that there is a fair usage limit of 200MB
> per month is still my best interpretation of it. What O2 atually choose
> to do in practice about any particular user's usage is anybody's guess.

Ah I see the bit you quoted in the Pay & Go sections and Business sections
of that page, however the standard Pay Monthly section only features the
part I quoted. It may be that the P&G / Business terms are different but
certainly for standard pay monthly customers there is no indication that a
200Mb limitation still exists.