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Old 03-31-2008, 05:43 AM   #1
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"ChrisM" <chris_mayersblue@suedeyahoo.com> writes:

> Please could someone give me an idea how much data Google maps uses?
> If someone has got a data package, maybe they could tell me, or do a quick
> experiment and find out roughly how much data the following takes (upload
> and download):
>
> Search for a place (town). Scroll round the area a bit. Zoom in to street
> level and then switch the view to satellite photo.
>
> I want to have a play with Google Maps Mobile, but with the stupid data
> costs on my VM tariff, (>5 grand per Gb) I'm worried I'd have to sell my
> house to pay next months bill if I do...
>

My quick experiment sent 16.16kB and recieved 285.96kB.

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Old 03-31-2008, 06:54 AM   #2
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In message uprtbrx5p.fsf@GLKD2485705,
Phil <pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk> Proclaimed from the tallest tower:

> "ChrisM" <chris_mayersblue@suedeyahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Please could someone give me an idea how much data Google maps uses?
>> If someone has got a data package, maybe they could tell me, or do a
>> quick experiment and find out roughly how much data the following
>> takes (upload and download):
>>
>> Search for a place (town). Scroll round the area a bit. Zoom in to
>> street level and then switch the view to satellite photo.
>>
>> I want to have a play with Google Maps Mobile, but with the stupid
>> data costs on my VM tariff, (>5 grand per Gb) I'm worried I'd have
>> to sell my house to pay next months bill if I do...
>>

> My quick experiment sent 16.16kB and recieved 285.96kB.
>
> HTH Phil


Thanks for that!
So about £1.50 with good ole VM then...
Mind you that will drop to 'only' about 60p when they reduce their price in
a few months.
Still not really a useable rate though... shame, I can't beat their
phone/text price, but they just won't play ball on the data costs... :-(

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Old 03-31-2008, 06:59 AM   #3
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In message fsqfqe$ja3$1@energise.enta.net,
Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> Proclaimed from the tallest
tower:

> In article <uprtbrx5p.fsf@GLKD2485705>,
> Phil <pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk> wrote:
>> "ChrisM" <chris_mayersblue@suedeyahoo.com> writes:
>>
>>> Please could someone give me an idea how much data Google maps uses?
>>> If someone has got a data package, maybe they could tell me, or do
>>> a quick experiment and find out roughly how much data the following
>>> takes (upload and download):
>>>
>>> Search for a place (town). Scroll round the area a bit. Zoom in to
>>> street level and then switch the view to satellite photo.
>>>
>>> I want to have a play with Google Maps Mobile, but with the stupid
>>> data costs on my VM tariff, (>5 grand per Gb) I'm worried I'd have
>>> to sell my house to pay next months bill if I do...
>>>

>> My quick experiment sent 16.16kB and recieved 285.96kB.

>
> The Google Maps application has a counter built-in for recieved data.
> I did the same and it's about the same - obviously a lot more in
> picture mode.
>
> With 5 minutes "play" looking at a local town I was able to clock up
> about 1.5MB of download (it doesn't tell you upload)
>
> Fortunately via Wi-Fi ...
>
> Sounds like you need a PAYG SIM on a better data tarrif ...
>
> Gordon


Wow, so about £7.50!! I think it does indeed sound very much like I need a
better tariff!!
Trouble is I can't find anyone else that can beat the phone and SMS prices I
get on Virgin.
Why-oh-why can't they introduce a decent flippin data tarrif?, surely they
must realise that people want to use more data-intensive stuff on their
phones these days ??

3 sound good, but I don't really want to change my handset at the moment,
and my W610i doesn't support 3G


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Old 03-31-2008, 07:46 AM   #4
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"ChrisM" <chris_mayersblue@suedeyahoo.com> writes:
>
> Wow, so about £7.50!! I think it does indeed sound very much like I need a
> better tariff!!
> Trouble is I can't find anyone else that can beat the phone and SMS prices I
> get on Virgin.
> Why-oh-why can't they introduce a decent flippin data tarrif?, surely they
> must realise that people want to use more data-intensive stuff on their
> phones these days ??
>
> 3 sound good, but I don't really want to change my handset at the moment,
> and my W610i doesn't support 3G
>

You could always get a T-Mobile Sim and use it in your VM phone.

I'm on a T-Mobile Flext tarrif with Web'n'walk plus as an extra, so that amount of
data never even touched my allowance.

IMO the Flext approach of giving a value to use over the month is far better than
x mins and y texts, means I can talk lots one month and text lots another and not
get caught out.

EU roaming MMS also comes out of my allowance, so they are effectivly free when
I am outside the UK. Confused my wife when she got an MMS with no attachment
though.

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Old 03-31-2008, 08:16 AM   #5
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> EU roaming MMS also comes out of my allowance, so they are effectivly
> free when
> I am outside the UK. Confused my wife when she got an MMS with no
> attachment though.
>
> Phil


erm, so you pay for SMS whilst roaming, but not for MMS (or at least
roaming MMS comes out of the allowance).
That's neat, so it's cheaper to send a text only MMS than a SMS...

How much/month does your FlexT thing cost you a month then? including your
web and walk, but assuming you don't rack up any out of allowance charges??


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Old 03-31-2008, 09:11 AM   #6
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"ChrisM" <chris_mayersblue@suedeyahoo.com> writes:

> > EU roaming MMS also comes out of my allowance, so they are effectivly
> > free when
> > I am outside the UK. Confused my wife when she got an MMS with no
> > attachment though.
> >
> > Phil

>
> erm, so you pay for SMS whilst roaming, but not for MMS (or at least
> roaming MMS comes out of the allowance).
> That's neat, so it's cheaper to send a text only MMS than a SMS...
>
> How much/month does your FlexT thing cost you a month then? including your
> web and walk, but assuming you don't rack up any out of allowance charges??
>

About £20 for web'n'walk, and about another £12 for web'n'walk plus (3G per month
and use of phone as a modem).

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Old 03-31-2008, 10:26 AM   #7
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In message ud4pbrnjq.fsf@GLKD2485705,
Phil <pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk> Proclaimed from the tallest tower:

> "ChrisM" <chris_mayersblue@suedeyahoo.com> writes:
>
>>> EU roaming MMS also comes out of my allowance, so they are
>>> effectivly free when
>>> I am outside the UK. Confused my wife when she got an MMS with no
>>> attachment though.
>>>
>>> Phil

>>
>> erm, so you pay for SMS whilst roaming, but not for MMS (or at least
>> roaming MMS comes out of the allowance).
>> That's neat, so it's cheaper to send a text only MMS than a SMS...
>>
>> How much/month does your FlexT thing cost you a month then?
>> including your web and walk, but assuming you don't rack up any out
>> of allowance charges??
>>

> About £20 for web'n'walk, and about another £12 for web'n'walk plus
> (3G per month and use of phone as a modem).
>
> Phil


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Old 03-31-2008, 12:45 PM   #8
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"ChrisM" <chris_mayersblue@suedeyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:K9ednQ_je_wCT23anZ2dnUVZ8uOdnZ2d@bt.com...
> In message fsqfqe$ja3$1@energise.enta.net,
> Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> Proclaimed from the tallest
> tower:
>
>> In article <uprtbrx5p.fsf@GLKD2485705>,
>> Phil <pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk> wrote:
>>> "ChrisM" <chris_mayersblue@suedeyahoo.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Please could someone give me an idea how much data Google maps uses?
>>>> If someone has got a data package, maybe they could tell me, or do
>>>> a quick experiment and find out roughly how much data the following
>>>> takes (upload and download):
>>>>
>>>> Search for a place (town). Scroll round the area a bit. Zoom in to
>>>> street level and then switch the view to satellite photo.
>>>>
>>>> I want to have a play with Google Maps Mobile, but with the stupid
>>>> data costs on my VM tariff, (>5 grand per Gb) I'm worried I'd have
>>>> to sell my house to pay next months bill if I do...
>>>>
>>> My quick experiment sent 16.16kB and recieved 285.96kB.

>>
>> The Google Maps application has a counter built-in for recieved data.
>> I did the same and it's about the same - obviously a lot more in
>> picture mode.
>>
>> With 5 minutes "play" looking at a local town I was able to clock up
>> about 1.5MB of download (it doesn't tell you upload)
>>
>> Fortunately via Wi-Fi ...
>>
>> Sounds like you need a PAYG SIM on a better data tarrif ...
>>
>> Gordon

>
> Wow, so about £7.50!! I think it does indeed sound very much like I need
> a better tariff!!
> Trouble is I can't find anyone else that can beat the phone and SMS prices
> I get on Virgin.
> Why-oh-why can't they introduce a decent flippin data tarrif?, surely they
> must realise that people want to use more data-intensive stuff on their
> phones these days ??
>
> 3 sound good, but I don't really want to change my handset at the moment,
> and my W610i doesn't support 3G
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Chris.
> (Remove Elvis's shoes to email me)
>


Buy a 3 PAYG SIM from the three.co.uk website for £9.99 which comes with £10
credit. Now month 1 use £5 of that credit to buy the Internet Monthly Add-on
which will give you 2GB of data allowance. Month 2 buy the Intenet add-on
again for £5. Month 3 buy a £10 topup card and use £5 for Internet Add-on,
and so on and so on and so on.

I use my 3 PAYG SIM as a Modem for my N800 Internet Tablet for everything
and anything.

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Old 03-31-2008, 01:23 PM   #9
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> Buy a 3 PAYG SIM from the three.co.uk website for £9.99 which comes with
> £10 credit. Now month 1 use £5 of that credit to buy the Internet Monthly
> Add-on which will give you 2GB of data allowance. Month 2 buy the Intenet
> add-on again for £5. Month 3 buy a £10 topup card and use £5 for Internet
> Add-on, and so on and so on and so on.
>
> I use my 3 PAYG SIM as a Modem for my N800 Internet Tablet for everything
> and anything.
>
> --
> Gerry (The MOTH)
> Website: http://nokiAAddict.com
>


Does 3 internet work without a G3 signal? as I don't get one on my T-mobile
PAYG sim, that sounds like a good idea for me too
Alan

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Old 03-31-2008, 03:19 PM   #10
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On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:23:23 +0000, Alan wrote:

>
>
>> Buy a 3 PAYG SIM from the three.co.uk website for £9.99 which comes with
>> £10 credit. Now month 1 use £5 of that credit to buy the Internet Monthly
>> Add-on which will give you 2GB of data allowance. Month 2 buy the Intenet
>> add-on again for £5. Month 3 buy a £10 topup card and use £5 for Internet
>> Add-on, and so on and so on and so on.
>>
>> I use my 3 PAYG SIM as a Modem for my N800 Internet Tablet for everything
>> and anything.
>>
>> --
>> Gerry (The MOTH)
>> Website: http://nokiAAddict.com
>>

>
> Does 3 internet work without a G3 signal? as I don't get one on my T-mobile
> PAYG sim, that sounds like a good idea for me too
> Alan


2G/3G/3.5G It works okay, just as long as your mobile is a 3G phone.
T-mobile signal is crap anywhere I go, you'll be suprised where you get a
3 signal.

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