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  1. #16
    ChrisM
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    Re: Dolphin, Canary, Racoon, Camel, whats all this boll*x?

    In message [email protected],
    [email protected] <[email protected]> Proclaimed from the tallest
    tower:

    > On 23 Jun 2008 19:44:05 GMT, alexd <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >> Your smartarse post neatly illustrates ChrisM's point - what on earth
    >> have the names of the tariffs got to do with what service one can
    >> expect from the tariff?

    > Quite a lot would you give your custom to a taxi service named cow
    > dung taxis ! .


    eh?
    You might use a cab firm call 'Speedy Taxis'

    We're saying what does 'Dolphin' or whatever, tell you about the tariff?




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  2. #17
    Paul Harris
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    Re: Dolphin, Canary, Racoon, Camel, whats all this boll*x?

    In message <[email protected]>, ChrisM
    <[email protected]> writes

    >You might use a cab firm call 'Speedy Taxis'
    >

    I would prefer to use safe and reliable :-)

    >We're saying what does 'Dolphin' or whatever, tell you about the tariff?


    Nothing at all as far as I can see only that Dolphins are probably more
    intelligent than the marketing people unless their aim was purely to get
    people talking about the tariffs without understanding which was which.
    How long do you think it will be before they come out with Donkey?

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    Paul Harris



  3. #18
    Brian A
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    Re: Dolphin, Canary, Racoon, Camel, whats all this boll*x?

    On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:06:24 +0100, "Steve Terry" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >
    ><[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:20:02 +0100, "Steve Terry" <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>"xCx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>news:[email protected]...
    >>>> Steve Terry wrote:
    >>><snip>
    >>>> I have to agree, Orange used to be fantastic, all the fancy services and
    >>>> products, wildfire was fabulous, why they ever got rid of that I don't
    >>>> know, I moved to Voda after being with Orange for a long time, and
    >>>> whilst
    >>>> the reception and customer service were generally better, they hardly
    >>>> have
    >>>> any interesting services.
    >>>>
    >>>> I'm with 3 now, and the amount of gadgets and services they've got is
    >>>> boggling!
    >>>>
    >>>My main phone is now on 3, but apart from 3s planet wap, additional
    >>>services are lacking they could have services like Line 2 and everyphone

    >>
    >> And one could come down to earth and start using telephones once again
    >> has they where meant to be used "to conduct a conversation with
    >> someone miles away" not for taking pictures with or accessing the
    >> internet. Cameras where invented to take pictures with and a computer
    >> is used for accessing the Internet NOT a bloody telephone for Gods
    >> sake.

    Not for me. I want my phone to do lots of things so that I only need
    carry one thing around with me that does everything.
    There have been many times when I've been out walking that I have
    taken lots of pictures and then enhanced them on the computer later.
    I only have a 6230i but I use every facility on it except 'push to
    talk' plus I run java applications. I am just waiting for a phone that
    will adequately do all I want, that includes wifi and touchscreen,
    before I get another phone. I am not in favour of locked down systems
    like the iPhone so I won't be going in that direction but the HTC
    Diamond is approaching what I want.
    So, you see, some people might only want to to use a phone just to
    call people but I want a multifunction device where access to the Net
    is cheap. The latter condition has some way to go yet.
    >>

    >Which is what the lost Orange services like line 2 and Everyphone did,
    >actually improve chances of getting or making a call.

    Yes, I used Everyphone and was sorry to lose it. It appears that if
    Orange can't see a direct benefit to themselves they dump it. Services
    like Everyphone, free 0800 calling, line 2 etc. can reduce churn by
    gaining customer satisfaction. Only line 2 remains to the ordinary
    punter.
    My main complaint, in regard to al the operators, is the compulsion to
    subscribe to services that you don't want. For example, 'Three'
    advertise a price and then you find that you have to add 'video
    calling' to the price even though you don't want the service. Then
    there are the tariffs that compel you to buy texts when you may not
    want them.
    What if your main interest is Net access? It is often the case that
    you have to buy into more minutes than you want or texts or pay for
    something else that you don't want. Why not have tariffs with a true
    mix - Choose how much data you want, how many minutes and how many
    texts or other services without compulsion to buy into more than you
    want? If mobile phone companies actually did things to please the
    customer then they would reduce churn and could then actually increase
    their profits via a win - win situation.





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  4. #19
    R. Mark Clayton
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    Re: Dolphin, Canary, Racoon, Camel, whats all this boll*x?


    "Paul Harris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In message <[email protected]>, ChrisM
    > <[email protected]> writes
    >
    >>You might use a cab firm call 'Speedy Taxis'
    >>

    > I would prefer to use safe and reliable :-)
    >
    >>We're saying what does 'Dolphin' or whatever, tell you about the tariff?

    >
    > Nothing at all as far as I can see only that Dolphins are probably more
    > intelligent than the marketing people unless their aim was purely to get
    > people talking about the tariffs without understanding which was which.
    > How long do you think it will be before they come out with Donkey?
    >
    > --
    > Paul Harris


    No Lamprey, Calf and Bedbug - they are all suckers!





  5. #20
    Steve Terry
    Guest

    Re: Dolphin, Canary, Racoon, Camel, whats all this boll*x?


    "alexd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:05:33 +0100, Dave wrote:
    >
    >> "ChrisM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >>
    >>> WTF is the difference between Dolphin and Racoon???

    >>
    >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphin
    >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racoon
    >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canary
    >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel

    >
    > Your smartarse post neatly illustrates ChrisM's point - what on earth
    > have the names of the tariffs got to do with what service one can expect
    > from the tariff?
    >

    Check out the back of a CPW monthly catalogue for tariifs.

    What the Orange animal tariffs offers in the way of text or calls actually
    varies with 12, 18, or 24 month contracts, so they aren't even constant!

    What insanely expensively developed, infantile crap.

    Steve Terry





  6. #21
    Steve Terry
    Guest

    Re: Dolphin, Canary, Racoon, Camel, whats all this boll*x?

    "Paul Harris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In message <[email protected]>, ChrisM
    > <[email protected]> writes
    >
    >>You might use a cab firm call 'Speedy Taxis'

    >
    > I would prefer to use safe and reliable :-)
    >
    >>We're saying what does 'Dolphin' or whatever, tell you about the tariff?

    >
    > Nothing at all as far as I can see only that Dolphins are probably more
    > intelligent than the marketing people unless their aim was purely to get
    > people talking about the tariffs without understanding which was which.
    > How long do you think it will be before they come out with Donkey?
    > Paul Harris
    >
    >

    Most Orange customers have already joined the Rat tariff,
    that's the one where one leaves the sinking ship.

    Steve Terry





  7. #22
    alexd
    Guest

    Re: Dolphin, Canary, Racoon, Camel, whats all this boll*x?

    On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:31:09 +0100, Steve Terry wrote:

    > So FT Orange took his philosophy which made Orange great, passed mostly
    > by word of mouth, and flushed it down the toilet where no amount of
    > infantile advertising will save it.
    >
    > A good measure of which is the Orange list, at it's peak around 2002
    > about a thousand postings month by dozens of knowledgeable Orange
    > enthusiasts were posted, i checked this month and only one post has been
    > made for June


    Perhaps FT are 'doing a Tiscali' with Orange - making it attractive to a
    potential buyer by pissing off anybody left who has a clue [ie costs them
    too much]. I could be very wrong, of course. I don't personally know
    anybody who is on Orange, and positive comments about Orange in this
    august forum are very few and far between.

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  8. #23
    Steve Terry
    Guest

    Re: Dolphin, Canary, Racoon, Camel, whats all this boll*x?

    "alexd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:31:09 +0100, Steve Terry wrote:
    >
    >> So FT Orange took his philosophy which made Orange great, passed mostly
    >> by word of mouth, and flushed it down the toilet where no amount of
    >> infantile advertising will save it.
    >>
    >> A good measure of which is the Orange list, at it's peak around 2002
    >> about a thousand postings month by dozens of knowledgeable Orange
    >> enthusiasts were posted, i checked this month and only one post has been
    >> made for June

    >
    > Perhaps FT are 'doing a Tiscali' with Orange - making it attractive to a
    > potential buyer by pissing off anybody left who has a clue [ie costs them
    > too much]. I could be very wrong, of course. I don't personally know
    > anybody who is on Orange, and positive comments about Orange in this
    > august forum are very few and far between.
    >
    >

    Not a chance, No it's simply since Snook left (after created a success),
    FT Orange UK have developed a pretentious under skilled, over egoed,
    up there own arse management.

    Their customers know it, but up in the rarefied closed atmosphere,
    of their ivory towers, FT Management don't hear it.

    Like most of UK management, the emperor has no clothes.

    Steve Terry





  9. #24
    Ivor Jones
    Guest

    Re: Dolphin, Canary, Racoon, Camel, whats all this boll*x?

    In news:[email protected],
    Paul Harris <[email protected]> typed, for some strange, unexplained
    reason:
    : In message <[email protected]>, ChrisM
    : <[email protected]> writes
    :
    : >You might use a cab firm call 'Speedy Taxis'
    : >
    : I would prefer to use safe and reliable :-)
    :
    : >We're saying what does 'Dolphin' or whatever, tell you about the
    : >tariff?
    :
    : Nothing at all as far as I can see only that Dolphins are probably
    : more intelligent than the marketing people

    So long, and thanks for all the fish.................


    Ivor





  10. #25
    Oldie
    Guest

    Re: Dolphin, Canary, Racoon, Camel, whats all this boll*x?

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Steve Terry" <[email protected]> wrote:

    (snipped)

    > >

    > Which is what the lost Orange services like line 2 and Everyphone did,
    > actually improve chances of getting or making a call.


    I've still got them both, plus ED50. For my calling pattern it still
    beats anything I can get on any other network (or any other Orange
    tariff).

    Oldie



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