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- 07-02-2008, 01:50 PM #1Brian AGuest
I am interested in the '3 like home' service, particularly as it
relates to Australia. On the ' web site it talks about the possibility
of switching on to a non-3 network without your knowledge, thus
increasing the chance of paying some exhorbitant rate to send or
receive a call - something I want to totally avoid.
I was of the understanding that if you set your phone to 'manual', as
distinct from 'automatic', for network selection, it would only
access that network - am I right or am I wrong?
Secondly, has anyone used '3 like home' in Australia?
I am a bit confused by the participating network '3 Telstra'. I assume
that you can use the 3G part of the Telstra network as if on '3' with
no extra charges - correct?
....but if on '3' Telstra' is there a chance of falling off onto non-3G
Telstra and having to pay for the call?
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- 07-02-2008, 03:49 PM #2Dennis FergusonGuest
Re: 'Three like home' : Maintaining connection to '3'
On 2008-07-02, Brian A <[email protected]> wrote:
> Secondly, has anyone used '3 like home' in Australia?
I haven't, but I've used 3 Australia's prepaid service.
> I am a bit confused by the participating network '3 Telstra'. I assume
> that you can use the 3G part of the Telstra network as if on '3' with
> no extra charges - correct?
No, I think the relationship between 3 and Telstra in Australia is about
the same as the relationship between 3 and Orange in the UK. If you are
in a place where 3 has 3G coverage you use it, otherwise it falls
back to Telstra's GSM network.
That's the way it seemed to work with an Australian 3 SIM anyway. I
don't know if "3 Like Home" service includes Telstra's GSM coverage
or just the native 3 3G coverage.
Dennis Ferguson
- 07-03-2008, 02:01 AM #3allatseaGuest
Re: 'Three like home' : Maintaining connection to '3'
"Brian A" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I am interested in the '3 like home' service, particularly as it
> relates to Australia. On the ' web site it talks about the possibility
> of switching on to a non-3 network without your knowledge, thus
> increasing the chance of paying some exhorbitant rate to send or
> receive a call - something I want to totally avoid.
> I was of the understanding that if you set your phone to 'manual', as
> distinct from 'automatic', for network selection, it would only
> access that network - am I right or am I wrong?
>
> Secondly, has anyone used '3 like home' in Australia?
> I am a bit confused by the participating network '3 Telstra'. I assume
> that you can use the 3G part of the Telstra network as if on '3' with
> no extra charges - correct?
> ...but if on '3' Telstra' is there a chance of falling off onto non-3G
> Telstra and having to pay for the call?
I've used 3 like home in Australia, Italy and Denmark. It's great because
you only pay your UK tariff rate when you call the UK or UK mobile numbers
(and receive calls too of course). It is wise however to ensure that you're
locked onto 3 (3 telstra in Oz) prior to making (or receiving the call).
That said, 3 are just about the cheapest of the operators to make calls
abroad anyway (in most places that is, Korea is a notable exception).
hth
Richard
- 07-03-2008, 02:19 AM #4ShakGuest
Re: 'Three like home' : Maintaining connection to '3'
"allatsea" <allatsea55@£msn$.&com&> wrote in message
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> I've used 3 like home in Australia, Italy and Denmark. It's great because
> you only pay your UK tariff rate when you call the UK or UK mobile numbers
> (and receive calls too of course). It is wise however to ensure that
> you're locked onto 3 (3 telstra in Oz) prior to making (or receiving the
> call). That said, 3 are just about the cheapest of the operators to make
> calls abroad anyway (in most places that is, Korea is a notable
> exception).
I've used it in Australia and Austria and found it really useful! Obvious
catch is that relatively local calls (to Oz numbers) will be charged as if
you're calling from the UK. Obvious I know, but sometimes it's easy to think
you have a local SIM with the ease with which you dial home!
Shak
- 07-04-2008, 03:59 AM #5Brian AGuest
Re: 'Three like home' : Maintaining connection to '3'
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 09:19:33 +0100, "Shak" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"allatsea" <allatsea55@£msn$.&com&> wrote in message
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>> I've used 3 like home in Australia, Italy and Denmark. It's great because
>> you only pay your UK tariff rate when you call the UK or UK mobile numbers
>> (and receive calls too of course). It is wise however to ensure that
>> you're locked onto 3 (3 telstra in Oz) prior to making (or receiving the
>> call). That said, 3 are just about the cheapest of the operators to make
>> calls abroad anyway (in most places that is, Korea is a notable
>> exception).
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>I've used it in Australia and Austria and found it really useful! Obvious
>catch is that relatively local calls (to Oz numbers) will be charged as if
>you're calling from the UK. Obvious I know, but sometimes it's easy to think
>you have a local SIM with the ease with which you dial home!
>
>Shak
Thank you all for your comments. However, one question, possibly
missed, is if you set your network to manual selection, on your phone
(as distinct from automatic) , does it then mean that you can safely
say that you will only get access to that network and not drift off
onto some other network that is going to charge you big bucks for the
privilege.
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- 07-22-2008, 07:22 PM #6drbobGuest
Re: 'Three like home' : Maintaining connection to '3'
Brian A wrote:
> Thank you all for your comments. However, one question, possibly
> missed, is if you set your network to manual selection, on your phone
> (as distinct from automatic) , does it then mean that you can safely
> say that you will only get access to that network and not drift off
> onto some other network that is going to charge you big bucks for the
> privilege.
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Sorry for the long post but I hope you'll find it useful.
A friend of mine is currently in Australia using three like home. You'll
only get service on the 3 network in the capital cities (Perth,
Melbourne, Sydney, Canberra, Brisbane and Adelaide). Outside those areas
you'll pay roaming fees. Calls whilst roaming on a 2G network (Optus or
Telstra) do not qualify as "3 like home" calls. See here:
http://www.three.co.uk/personal/help....omp?cid=31224
Don't forget that 3 like home in Australia is only available for pay
monthly customers. If you're on PAYG you'll always be charge roaming
rates in oz. See here:
http://www.three.co.uk/personal/help....omp?cid=31224
If you have a three branded handset you'll probably find you cannot set
manual network selection. Three restrict this to prevent people staying
permanently on the Orange network in the UK (Orange acts as a backup in
areas with no 3 signal). On some handsets the manual option isn't
present, on others it will appear to work but then switch straight back
to "automatic" mode.
On my friend's 6120 Nokia phone the alternative is to select "UMTS only"
in the network setting menu. Three UK phones only roam onto competitors
2G networks in Oz, so that setting should ensure you don't pay roaming
charges. However not all phone models have a "UMTS only" option.
Whilst out there you'll be on the 3 network if your handset displays "3
AUS" or "3 Telstra". If you can't select UMTS only make sure you check
which network you're on before making or accepting a call.
My friend has found the 3 network in Melbourne to be pretty unreliable.
Calls drop for no apparent reason and we can't always get through to
her. When she first arrived there were several very bizarre occasions
where calls from the UK to her number were routed to what I assume must
be a prank call service recording designed to confuse and infuriate
callers (you can listen to the recording here
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oQJoBGDmbk> it was definitely a
recording - I heard the exact same thing several times)
The routing to the bizarre recording hasn't happened recently but
unanswered calls aren't always diverted to voice mail (the line just
goes silent after a few rings but does not cut off) and sometimes she is
unable to dial out. Text messages from/to UK numbers sometimes arrive
straight away, sometimes are delayed several hours. Skype calls are even
less reliable. Bottom line - don't rely on a 3 phone as your only means
of communication whilst out there. My friend took a spare unlocked phone
with her and bought a PAYG Virgin Australia SIM.
regards,
drbob
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