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  1. #1
    Jayne
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    I am on Virgin PAYG and today I noticed I pay 15p each time I ring
    someone and they don't answer. It doesn't give me a chance to put the
    phone down before I get a recorded message saying that person is
    unavailable, it cuts in instantly. I have never left a message and don't
    want to. Is there any way of stopping my call going to people's voicemail?
    Do all providers charge like this?



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  2. #2
    {{{{{Welcome}}}}}
    Guest

    Re: diverted calls?

    Steve Terry wrote
    on Tue, 8 Jul 2008 22:04:54 +0100 in message
    <[email protected]>:

    >
    >"Jayne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >>I am on Virgin PAYG and today I noticed I pay 15p each time I ring someone
    >>and they don't answer. It doesn't give me a chance to put the phone down
    >>before I get a recorded message saying that person is unavailable, it cuts
    >>in instantly. I have never left a message and don't want to. Is there any
    >>way of stopping my call going to people's voicemail?
    >> Do all providers charge like this?
    >>
    >>

    >Orange used to not charge for the first couple of seconds,
    >don't know if they still do?
    >
    >What you need is a network that charges the least connection charge
    >and per second.
    >
    >All the networks seem to be revising their connection charges upwards
    >to compensate for being forced to reduce roaming charges
    >
    >No idea who now offers the best and for how much longer?
    >
    >Steve Terry
    >



    Virgin Mobile used to charge by the second and not have a min call charge,
    was great as you could get away with 2 or 3 seconds and not get billed -
    ideal for these situations with the horrid voicemail / 1571.

    Virgin Mobile were the last to drop this, so now they all have a min call
    charge. You will now get stung. 15p on PAYG and 10p if paying by DD /
    contract.

    Vodafone has recently increased their min charge as have others. It's a way
    of making extra money, making back some of the money they 'lost' from
    roaming - can't see that people will actually make more roaming calls as the
    costs come down therefore bringing in more money.

    I don't have voicemail / 1571 on my phones other than one number set aside
    just for voicemail purposes, people can try calling me on my landline, my
    VoIP account, my mobile and if they can't reach me but must leave a message
    they can call my dedicated voicemail number which is a local area code
    number and leave a message.

    Once I find someone has voicemail / 1571 on their line / phone I just don't
    call them and tell them why, now virtually all of them have seen the light
    and removed voicemail / 1571.



  3. #3
    Jack Torrence
    Guest

    Re: diverted calls?

    "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > I don't have voicemail / 1571 on my phones other than one number set aside
    > just for voicemail purposes, people can try calling me on my landline, my
    > VoIP account, my mobile and if they can't reach me but must leave a
    > message
    > they can call my dedicated voicemail number which is a local area code
    > number and leave a message.
    >
    > Once I find someone has voicemail / 1571 on their line / phone I just
    > don't
    > call them and tell them why, now virtually all of them have seen the light
    > and removed voicemail / 1571.


    I bet you have great parties





  4. #4
    Steve Terry
    Guest

    Re: diverted calls?

    "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Steve Terry wrote
    > on Tue, 8 Jul 2008 22:04:54 +0100 in message
    > <[email protected]>:
    >>"Jayne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]...
    >>>I am on Virgin PAYG and today I noticed I pay 15p each time I ring
    >>>someone
    >>>and they don't answer. It doesn't give me a chance to put the phone down
    >>>before I get a recorded message saying that person is unavailable, it
    >>>cuts
    >>>in instantly. I have never left a message and don't want to. Is there any
    >>>way of stopping my call going to people's voicemail?
    >>> Do all providers charge like this?
    >>>

    >>Orange used to not charge for the first couple of seconds,
    >>don't know if they still do?
    >>What you need is a network that charges the least connection charge
    >>and per second.
    >>All the networks seem to be revising their connection charges upwards
    >>to compensate for being forced to reduce roaming charges
    >>No idea who now offers the best and for how much longer?
    >>Steve Terry

    >
    > Virgin Mobile used to charge by the second and not have a min call charge,
    > was great as you could get away with 2 or 3 seconds and not get billed -
    > ideal for these situations with the horrid voicemail / 1571.
    >
    > Virgin Mobile were the last to drop this, so now they all have a min call
    > charge. You will now get stung. 15p on PAYG and 10p if paying by DD /
    > contract.
    >
    > Vodafone has recently increased their min charge as have others. It's a
    > way
    > of making extra money, making back some of the money they 'lost' from
    > roaming - can't see that people will actually make more roaming calls as
    > the
    > costs come down therefore bringing in more money.

    <snip>
    >
    >

    All the networks charging by the min PAYG policy makes Threes 6 month
    short contract look even more attractive.

    For 15quid a month you get a Nokia 6120 (or a choice of lesser phones)
    on M&M 300, with 300 extrax 3to3 mins, and free voicemail.

    Cancle after 6 months total cost 90quid, which is what the phone is worth,
    and a very useful load of mins and text.

    Then either try 3 for a cheap upgrade on it, or stick in a 3PAYG sim,
    or pay 3 for the unlock to use it on another network

    Steve Terry





  5. #5
    John Riggs
    Guest

    Re: diverted calls?


    "Steve Terry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > All the networks charging by the min PAYG policy makes Threes 6 month
    > short contract look even more attractive.
    >
    > For 15quid a month you get a Nokia 6120 (or a choice of lesser phones)
    > on M&M 300, with 300 extrax 3to3 mins, and free voicemail.
    >
    > Cancle after 6 months total cost 90quid, which is what the phone is worth,
    > and a very useful load of mins and text.


    If you do take this route, ensure you actually have a six month contract.

    I got my new phone a few weeks ago. I ordered it online and opted for the
    six month contract. After receiving the phone I asked customer services to
    confirm the length of contract and was told it was18 months. Requests for
    this to be changed came to naught as the customer services people were
    either unable or unwilling to do so. I have now written to customer
    services and am still awaiting a reply.







  6. #6
    Steve Terry
    Guest

    Re: diverted calls?

    "John Riggs" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "Steve Terry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >> All the networks charging by the min PAYG policy makes Threes 6 month
    >> short contract look even more attractive.
    >>
    >> For 15quid a month you get a Nokia 6120 (or a choice of lesser phones)
    >> on M&M 300, with 300 extrax 3to3 mins, and free voicemail.
    >>
    >> Cancle after 6 months total cost 90quid, which is what the phone is
    >> worth,
    >> and a very useful load of mins and text.

    >
    > If you do take this route, ensure you actually have a six month contract.
    >
    > I got my new phone a few weeks ago. I ordered it online and opted for the
    > six month contract. After receiving the phone I asked customer services
    > to confirm the length of contract and was told it was18 months. Requests
    > for this to be changed came to naught as the customer services people were
    > either unable or unwilling to do so. I have now written to customer
    > services and am still awaiting a reply.
    >
    >

    The 3 shop printed out an additional sheet claiming the 18 month contract
    had been converted to 6 months.
    So i have some hard copy if they claim otherwise.

    I will end my Direct Debit at 6 months, whatever they claim

    Steve Terry





  7. #7
    annwhite
    Guest

    Re: diverted calls?


    Hi
    To the original question, Orange charge a connection charge even if you
    do not get though especially abroad, as the networks abroad charge ALL
    phone companies to try and connect though their service whether you
    connect or not
    If you are travelling abroad you can use a UK SIM card that has cheap
    or no roaming charges and can be used worldwide have a look at
    www.mobilephonesim.com its worth a look




    --
    annwhite



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