Re: Basic Phone Questions

On Jul 31, 11:39*pm, "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote:
> "species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in message
>
> news:93db879a-0ad9-4368-bea6-dcbede2e296b@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 31, 11:18 pm, species8350 <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net>
> wrote:
> <snip>> Evidently the PIN is preset. Yet, I can use the phone without typing a
> > code???????
>
> the Networks set the Sims PIN to a 4 digit default,
> but the user has to switch the PIN security on in the Phone to use it
>
> Google for each networks default, use it and then you can change it to one
> you want
>
> Steve Terry

Thanks.

I have the PIN code and presumably I can use the phone without typing
in the code because I have not enabled it.

So, the proceudre appears to be: enable the code then use it to access
the phone then change the PIN.

Any thoughts on the Password PIN dichotomy.

In addition, what is the most convenient way to determine the state of
charge of the battery

Thanks

PS. Phone Samsung E250

On Aug 1, 12:49*am, "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote:
> "species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in message
>
> news:20d5b064-b1dd-4549-b4db-608165a681e6@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 31, 11:39 pm, "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote:> "species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:93db879a-0ad9-4368-bea6-dcbede2e296b@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com....
> > On Jul 31, 11:18 pm, species8350 <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net>
> > wrote:
> >Any thoughts on the Password PIN dichotomy.
>
> http://www.mobileshop.org/security/passwords.htm
>
> >In addition, what is the most convenient way to determine the state of
> >charge of the battery
>
> >Thanks
> >PS. Phone Samsung E250
>
> Look at the battery indicator?
>
> http://www.mobileshop.org/howitworks/summary.htm
>
> Steve Terry


You can tell I've got my first phone.

Here's a stupid question.

I have a slide phone. I need to know the correct procedure for keeping
the phone on when the slide is down.

Am I right in thinking that if the phone is left switched on and the
slide is put down then the phone will not switch off?

Q2.

If the battery is removed or becomes flat, I assume that the chip
stores all the data

Q3

If at a latter date, I decided to change the network, I assume that I
would have to build the databases from scratch. Is this correct. If I
chose to buy a new phone, and keep the network, presumably I could
just insert the old SIM and keep all the data.

Comment:

I was a little surpised when I bought the phone to find there is no
way to protect the screen from scratching.

Best wishes

SP

Ps. Thanks for helping me with this basic information

"species8350" <not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net> wrote in message
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On Aug 1, 12:49 am, "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote:
> "species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in messag
> news:20d5b064-b1dd-4549-b4db-608165a681e6@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 31, 11:39 pm, "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote:>
> "species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in message
> >news:93db879a-0ad9-4368-bea6-dcbede2e296b@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jul 31, 11:18 pm, species8350 <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net>
> > wrote:
<snip>
>You can tell I've got my first phone.
>Here's a stupid question.
>I have a slide phone. I need to know the correct procedure for keeping
>the phone on when the slide is down.
>Am I right in thinking that if the phone is left switched on and the
>slide is put down then the phone will not switch off?
>
It depends if it has an active, or passive slide, most are active.
Experiment with it, if you can cut a call off by closing the slide it's an
active type
>
>Q2.
>If the battery is removed or becomes flat, I assume that the chip
>stores all the data
>
The phone will have flash ram which without power will store your contacts,
etc. and probably a back up battery to keep the clock in time,
but some cheap phones don't have a clock battery back up
>
>Q3
>
>If at a latter date, I decided to change the network, I assume that I
>would have to build the databases from scratch. Is this correct. If I
>chose to buy a new phone, and keep the network, presumably I could
>just insert the old SIM and keep all the data.
>
If you have a Nokia you can back up your sim and phone contacts,
and photos/videos etc to your PC with free Nokia PC Suite software
on your PC, and a connection by Bluetooth or datalead.
which you can then load back in or to another Nokia

Some other manufactures offer something similar to Nokia PC Suite
I don't know what Samsung offer?
>
>Comment:
>I was a little surprised when I bought the phone to find there is no
>way to protect the screen from scratching.
>Best wishes
>SP
>
Most phones have after market plastic or leather cases, try searching eBay
for cases for your model

Steve Terry

On Aug 2, 12:13*am, "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote:
> "species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in message
>
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> On Aug 1, 12:49 am, "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote:> "species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in messag
> >news:20d5b064-b1dd-4549-b4db-608165a681e6@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jul 31, 11:39 pm, "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote:>
> > "species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in message
> > >news:93db879a-0ad9-4368-bea6-dcbede2e296b@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com....
> > > On Jul 31, 11:18 pm, species8350 <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net>
> > > wrote:
> <snip>
> >You can tell I've got my first phone.
> >Here's a stupid question.
> >I have a slide phone. I need to know the correct procedure for keeping
> >the phone on when the slide is down.
> >Am I right in thinking that if the phone is left switched on and the
> >slide is put down then the phone will not switch off?
>
> It depends if it has an active, or passive slide, most are active.
> Experiment with it, if you can cut a call off by closing the slide it's an
> active type
>
> >Q2.
> >If the battery is removed or becomes flat, I assume that the chip
> >stores all the data
>
> The phone will have flash ram which without power will store your contacts,
> etc. and probably a back up battery to keep the clock in time,
> but some cheap phones don't have a clock battery back up
>
> >Q3
>
> >If at a latter date, I decided to change the network, I assume that I
> >would have to build the databases from scratch. Is this correct. If I
> >chose to buy a new phone, and keep the network, presumably I could
> >just insert the old SIM and keep all the data.
>
> If you have a Nokia you can back up your sim and phone contacts,
> and photos/videos etc to your PC with free Nokia PC Suite software
> on your PC, and a connection by Bluetooth or datalead.
> which you can then load back in or to another Nokia
>
> Some other manufactures offer something similar to Nokia PC Suite
> I don't know what Samsung offer?
>
> >Comment:
> >I was a little surprised when I bought the phone to find there is no
> >way to protect the screen from scratching.
> >Best wishes
> >SP
>
> Most phones have after market plastic or leather cases, try searching eBay
> for cases for your model
>
> Steve Terry

Thank you, all very helpful

At the moment I am creating some contacts in the phonebook

I can't seem to introduce spaces in the telephone number?

I can store contacts in either the phone or SIM card.

I have chosen the phone. I assume that saving to the SIM is for those
who move their SIMs to other phones. Is this correct.

Best wishes

Sp.

species8350 wrote:

> At the moment I am creating some contacts in the phonebook

In general, I don't bother. Whenever I make a call or receive one,
that's when I add the number to the phonebook. Maybe you're more organised.

> I can't seem to introduce spaces in the telephone number?

Why on earth would you want to? The numbers don't have spaces in them -
spaces would only be for display, and the phone won't display them if
there is a name to use


> I can store contacts in either the phone or SIM card.
>
> I have chosen the phone. I assume that saving to the SIM is for those
> who move their SIMs to other phones. Is this correct.

It means that if you change sim cards (for example when switching
network) the stuff will still be there, and it means you can use longer
names in the phonebook. However, it means that if you replace the phone
but not the sim card (maybe if the phone goes wrong - even if just a
cracked screen) you lose them. Your choice.

Iain wrote:
> species8350 wrote:
>
>> At the moment I am creating some contacts in the phonebook
>
> In general, I don't bother. Whenever I make a call or receive one,
> that's when I add the number to the phonebook. Maybe you're more organised.
>
>> I can't seem to introduce spaces in the telephone number?
>
> Why on earth would you want to? The numbers don't have spaces in them -
> spaces would only be for display, and the phone won't display them if
> there is a name to use
>
>
>> I can store contacts in either the phone or SIM card.
>>
>> I have chosen the phone. I assume that saving to the SIM is for those
>> who move their SIMs to other phones. Is this correct.
>
> It means that if you change sim cards (for example when switching
> network) the stuff will still be there, and it means you can use longer
> names in the phonebook. However, it means that if you replace the phone
> but not the sim card (maybe if the phone goes wrong - even if just a
> cracked screen) you lose them. Your choice.

I can only go by what I have, but phones can store multiple numbers
(home/mobile/work...) per user entry whereas the sim cards I have only
store one (= multiple entries for one person).

Only you can judge the usefulness or otherwise of this :-)

--
PeeGee

"Nothing should be able to load itself onto a computer without the
knowledge or consent of the computer user. Software should also be able
to be removed from a computer easily."
Peter Cullen, Microsoft Chief Privacy Strategist (Computing 18 Aug 05)

On Aug 2, 11:52*pm, Iain <no-...@hairydog.co.uk> wrote:
> species8350 wrote:
> > At the moment I am creating some contacts in the phonebook
>
> In general, I don't bother. Whenever I make a call or receive one,
> that's when I add the number to the phonebook. Maybe you're more organised.
>
> > I can't seem to introduce spaces in the telephone number?
>
> Why on earth would you want to? The numbers don't have spaces in them -
> spaces would only be for display, and the phone won't display them if
> there is a name to use
>
> > I can store contacts in either the phone or SIM card.
>
> > I have chosen the phone. I assume that saving to the SIM is for those
> > who move their SIMs to other phones. Is this correct.
>
> It means that if you change sim cards (for example when switching
> network) the stuff will still be there, and it means you can use longer
> names in the phonebook. However, it means that if you replace the phone
> but not the sim card (maybe if the phone goes wrong - even if just a
> cracked screen) you lose them. Your choice.

Thanks for the info.

I wanted to put spaces in the number because I find it easier to read

On Aug 3, 10:25*am, PeeGee <tries...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Iain wrote:
> > species8350 wrote:
>
> >> At the moment I am creating some contacts in the phonebook
>
> > In general, I don't bother. Whenever I make a call or receive one,
> > that's when I add the number to the phonebook. Maybe you're more organised.
>
> >> I can't seem to introduce spaces in the telephone number?
>
> > Why on earth would you want to? The numbers don't have spaces in them -
> > spaces would only be for display, and the phone won't display them if
> > there is a name to use
>
> >> I can store contacts in either the phone or SIM card.
>
> >> I have chosen the phone. I assume that saving to the SIM is for those
> >> who move their SIMs to other phones. Is this correct.
>
> > It means that if you change sim cards (for example when switching
> > network) the stuff will still be there, and it means you can use longer
> > names in the phonebook. However, it means that if you replace the phone
> > but not the sim card (maybe if the phone goes wrong - even if just a
> > cracked screen) you lose them. Your choice.
>
> I can only go by what I have, but phones can store multiple numbers
> (home/mobile/work...) per user entry whereas the sim cards I have only
> store one (= multiple entries for one person).
>
> Only you can judge the usefulness or otherwise of this :-)
>
> --
> PeeGee
>
> "Nothing should be able to load itself onto a computer without the
> knowledge or consent of the computer user. Software should also be able
> to be removed from a computer easily."
> Peter Cullen, Microsoft Chief Privacy Strategist (Computing 18 Aug 05)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thank you

best wishes

On Aug 3, 12:14*pm, species8350 <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net>
wrote:
> On Aug 3, 10:25*am, PeeGee <tries...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Iain wrote:
> > > species8350 wrote:
>
> > >> At the moment I am creating some contacts in the phonebook
>
> > > In general, I don't bother. Whenever I make a call or receive one,
> > > that's when I add the number to the phonebook. Maybe you're more organised.
>
> > >> I can't seem to introduce spaces in the telephone number?
>
> > > Why on earth would you want to? The numbers don't have spaces in them-
> > > spaces would only be for display, and the phone won't display them if
> > > there is a name to use
>
> > >> I can store contacts in either the phone or SIM card.
>
> > >> I have chosen the phone. I assume that saving to the SIM is for those
> > >> who move their SIMs to other phones. Is this correct.
>
> > > It means that if you change sim cards (for example when switching
> > > network) the stuff will still be there, and it means you can use longer
> > > names in the phonebook. However, it means that if you replace the phone
> > > but not the sim card (maybe if the phone goes wrong - even if just a
> > > cracked screen) you lose them. Your choice.
>
> > I can only go by what I have, but phones can store multiple numbers
> > (home/mobile/work...) per user entry whereas the sim cards I have only
> > store one (= multiple entries for one person).
>
> > Only you can judge the usefulness or otherwise of this :-)
>
> > --
> > PeeGee
>
> > "Nothing should be able to load itself onto a computer without the
> > knowledge or consent of the computer user. Software should also be able
> > to be removed from a computer easily."
> > Peter Cullen, Microsoft Chief Privacy Strategist (Computing 18 Aug 05)-Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Thank you
>
> best wishes- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I don't think much of the images on my phone (Samsung). Can I get some
free sci fi (eg Star Trek) images to replace them?

Thanks

PeeGee wrote:

> I can only go by what I have, but phones can store multiple numbers
> (home/mobile/work...) per user entry whereas the sim cards I have only
> store one (= multiple entries for one person).

That's true, but I find the latter more useful. You can scroll through
more easily and don't have to select the person then select the number.

> Only you can judge the usefulness or otherwise of this :-)

Exactly!

species8350 wrote:

> I wanted to put spaces in the number because I find it easier to read

Easier to read the numbers that you won't be reading? I guess it makes
sense to you.

Iain wrote:
> PeeGee wrote:
>
>> I can only go by what I have, but phones can store multiple numbers
>> (home/mobile/work...) per user entry whereas the sim cards I have only
>> store one (= multiple entries for one person).
>
> That's true, but I find the latter more useful. You can scroll through
> more easily and don't have to select the person then select the number.
>
>> Only you can judge the usefulness or otherwise of this :-)
>
> Exactly!
>

The main problem with multiple numbers per entry is that there is (seems
to be) no easy way to back them up :-( The Nokia software only seems to
be able to handle 2 number per entry and using a sim and sim reader
reduces that to 1 ;-)

--
PeeGee

"Nothing should be able to load itself onto a computer without the
knowledge or consent of the computer user. Software should also be able
to be removed from a computer easily."
Peter Cullen, Microsoft Chief Privacy Strategist (Computing 18 Aug 05)

On Aug 4, 9:41*am, PeeGee <tries...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Iain wrote:
> > PeeGee wrote:
>
> >> I can only go by what I have, but phones can store multiple numbers
> >> (home/mobile/work...) per user entry whereas the sim cards I have only
> >> store one (= multiple entries for one person).
>
> > That's true, but I find the latter more useful. You can scroll through
> > more easily and don't have to select the person then select the number.
>
> >> Only you can judge the usefulness or otherwise of this :-)
>
> > Exactly!
>
> The main problem with multiple numbers per entry is that there is (seems
> to be) no easy way to back them up :-( The Nokia software only seems to
> be able to handle 2 number per entry and using a sim and sim reader
> reduces that to 1 ;-)
>
> --
> PeeGee
>
> "Nothing should be able to load itself onto a computer without the
> knowledge or consent of the computer user. Software should also be able
> to be removed from a computer easily."
> Peter Cullen, Microsoft Chief Privacy Strategist (Computing 18 Aug 05)

I was wondering about the copy procedure in Samsung. The phone numbers
can be copied to the SIM. I guess that multiple numbers will be
reduced to one. I wonder which one?

On Aug 2, 12:13*am, "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote:
> "species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in message
>
> news:e50db5ab-4159-4bfb-a6f8-819e3cb77264@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 1, 12:49 am, "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote:> "species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in messag
> >news:20d5b064-b1dd-4549-b4db-608165a681e6@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jul 31, 11:39 pm, "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote:>
> > "species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in message
> > >news:93db879a-0ad9-4368-bea6-dcbede2e296b@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com....
> > > On Jul 31, 11:18 pm, species8350 <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net>
> > > wrote:
> <snip>
> >You can tell I've got my first phone.
> >Here's a stupid question.
> >I have a slide phone. I need to know the correct procedure for keeping
> >the phone on when the slide is down.
> >Am I right in thinking that if the phone is left switched on and the
> >slide is put down then the phone will not switch off?
>
> It depends if it has an active, or passive slide, most are active.
> Experiment with it, if you can cut a call off by closing the slide it's an
> active type
>
> >Q2.
> >If the battery is removed or becomes flat, I assume that the chip
> >stores all the data
>
> The phone will have flash ram which without power will store your contacts,
> etc. and probably a back up battery to keep the clock in time,
> but some cheap phones don't have a clock battery back up
>
> >Q3
>
> >If at a latter date, I decided to change the network, I assume that I
> >would have to build the databases from scratch. Is this correct. If I
> >chose to buy a new phone, and keep the network, presumably I could
> >just insert the old SIM and keep all the data.
>
> If you have a Nokia you can back up your sim and phone contacts,
> and photos/videos etc to your PC with free Nokia PC Suite software
> on your PC, and a connection by Bluetooth or datalead.
> which you can then load back in or to another Nokia
>
> Some other manufactures offer something similar to Nokia PC Suite
> I don't know what Samsung offer?
>
> >Comment:
> >I was a little surprised when I bought the phone to find there is no
> >way to protect the screen from scratching.
> >Best wishes
> >SP
>
> Most phones have after market plastic or leather cases, try searching eBay
> for cases for your model
>
> Steve Terry

Since I am new to phones, I have put my own number into the contacts
list to aid memory.

If I am talking to someone and they ask for my number can I use
contacts while talking.

I could experiment, but I am afraid of breaking the phone

Best wishes

Sp.

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On Aug 2, 12:13 am, "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote:
> "species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in message
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> On Aug 1, 12:49 am, "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote:>
> "species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in messag
> >news:20d5b064-b1dd-4549-b4db-608165a681e6@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jul 31, 11:39 pm, "Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote:>
> > "species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in message
> > >news:93db879a-0ad9-4368-bea6-dcbede2e296b@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Jul 31, 11:18 pm, species8350 <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net>
> > > wrote:
> <snip>
>Since I am new to phones, I have put my own number into the contacts
>list to aid memory.
>
>If I am talking to someone and they ask for my number can I use
>contacts while talking.
>
>I could experiment, but I am afraid of breaking the phone
>
>Best wishes
>Sp.
>
Ummm.. Someone who knows how to use Usenet
afraid of braking a piece of hardware by pressing buttons.

I smell a troll

Steve Terry