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- 10-25-2008, 02:35 PM #1LobsterGuest
I want to set up my laptop to be able to access email, via my mobile
phone. I know this isn't maybe the optimum way of doing things but it's
a short-term solution using kit I already own.
I have a Nokia 5500 Sport (a GPRS phone which is already configured for
email, via Gmail, and web browsing), and have a USB cable to hook it up
to my laptop, which runs XP Home with Outlook 2003 (or Outlook Express
if needs be).
Although I've been on Orange's configurator wotsit here:
<http://web.orange.co.uk/eps/> I can't figure out how to get it working
- I just seem to end up with modem settings which think it's a landline,
which want me to enter in a phone number etc.
Can anyone point me in the right direction to solve this?
Incidentally the phone and PC are also bluetooth-enabled, which I'd
prefer to use on balance; though I'm presuming that would be even more
complicated to set up - plus would the connection be slower?)
Thanks
David
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- 10-25-2008, 05:05 PM #2Adrian CGuest
Re: Using GPRS phone as laptop modem
Lobster wrote:
> Incidentally the phone and PC are also bluetooth-enabled, which I'd
> prefer to use on balance; though I'm presuming that would be even more
> complicated to set up - plus would the connection be slower?)
Bluetooth is the way to go. Speed of the link is 1Mbps which is higher
than GPRS alone manages. If you pair the PC and phone togther, you will
find on investigation with the PC, that the mobile has various bluetooth
services visible including "bluetooth modem". You should be able to find
this in your operating system as a usable modem, and then be able to
enter login and network details for your phone carrier, like you'd do if
it was an analogue modem connected to an ISP.
See http://www.filesaveas.com/connect.html
and http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html
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Adrian C
- 10-25-2008, 05:33 PM #3Michael ChareGuest
Re: Using GPRS phone as laptop modem
"Lobster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I want to set up my laptop to be able to access email, via my mobile phone.
>I know this isn't maybe the optimum way of doing things but it's a
>short-term solution using kit I already own.
>
> I have a Nokia 5500 Sport (a GPRS phone which is already configured for
> email, via Gmail, and web browsing), and have a USB cable to hook it up to
> my laptop, which runs XP Home with Outlook 2003 (or Outlook Express if
> needs be).
>
> Although I've been on Orange's configurator wotsit here:
> <http://web.orange.co.uk/eps/> I can't figure out how to get it working -
> I just seem to end up with modem settings which think it's a landline,
> which want me to enter in a phone number etc.
>
> Can anyone point me in the right direction to solve this?
>
> Incidentally the phone and PC are also bluetooth-enabled, which I'd prefer
> to use on balance; though I'm presuming that would be even more
> complicated to set up - plus would the connection be slower?)
>
> Thanks
> David
Are you using Nokia PC Suite?
If so click on the Internet Icon, then click on the Spanner icon and select
the Orange UK network. You should then be able to establish a connection.
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Michael Chare
- 10-26-2008, 07:31 AM #4LobsterGuest
Re: Using GPRS phone as laptop modem
Adrian C wrote:
> Lobster wrote:
>
>> Incidentally the phone and PC are also bluetooth-enabled, which I'd
>> prefer to use on balance; though I'm presuming that would be even more
>> complicated to set up - plus would the connection be slower?)
>
> Bluetooth is the way to go. Speed of the link is 1Mbps which is higher
> than GPRS alone manages. If you pair the PC and phone togther, you will
> find on investigation with the PC, that the mobile has various bluetooth
> services visible including "bluetooth modem". You should be able to find
> this in your operating system as a usable modem, and then be able to
> enter login and network details for your phone carrier, like you'd do if
> it was an analogue modem connected to an ISP.
>
> See http://www.filesaveas.com/connect.html
> and http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html
Brilliant! Thanks very much for that - it took me most of the morning
faffing about with different settings and ISPs, (and an unfortunately
large amount of data which I unwittingly downloaded!) but have now got
it working OK, both for email and web browsing.
I'm assuming that there should be no problem with using abroad (Spain),
without changing any more settings? (my phone is enabled for roaming).
(I'm presently configured to send email via smtp.orange.net, and receive
it via pop.ntlworld.net - my usual ISP).
Thanks again
David
- 10-26-2008, 07:42 AM #5Andy BurnsGuest
Re: Using GPRS phone as laptop modem
Lobster wrote:
> an unfortunately
> large amount of data which I unwittingly downloaded!
Try turning off the auto-updates of windows/acrobat/java/flash/antivirus
when you're using it, otherwise it might get expensive.
> I'm assuming that there should be no problem with using abroad (Spain),
> without changing any more settings? (my phone is enabled for roaming).
Roaming data is more expensive, Orange sell "Travel Data Bundles"
http://www2.orange.co.uk/servlet/Sat...131837837#data
- 10-26-2008, 10:50 AM #6LobsterGuest
Re: Using GPRS phone as laptop modem
Andy Burns wrote:
> Lobster wrote:
>
>> an unfortunately large amount of data which I unwittingly downloaded!
>
> Try turning off the auto-updates of windows/acrobat/java/flash/antivirus
> when you're using it, otherwise it might get expensive.
Thanks for that: will do. (My faux-pas was actually trying to download
a massive email which unbeknown to me was sitting in the POP mailbox I
was using to test!)
>> I'm assuming that there should be no problem with using abroad
>> (Spain), without changing any more settings? (my phone is enabled for
>> roaming).
>
> Roaming data is more expensive, Orange sell "Travel Data Bundles"
> http://www2.orange.co.uk/servlet/Sat...131837837#data
I was advised yesterday by an Orangedroid that in Spain the charge would
be 3GBP/Mb - isn't that the same as in UK? I'm really not at all
familiar with GPRS costs as hitherto I've only ever used it once in a
blue moon. Thanks a lot for the Travel Bundles tip - I'll certainly be
buying one of those before I go. Curiously my new friend at Orange
didn't mention those... :-(
David
- 10-26-2008, 11:09 AM #7Andy BurnsGuest
Re: Using GPRS phone as laptop modem
Lobster wrote:
> I was advised yesterday by an Orangedroid that in Spain the charge would
> be 3GBP/Mb
Europe1 zone seems to be £8/MB without a bundle.
- 10-26-2008, 12:15 PM #8LobsterGuest
Re: Using GPRS phone as laptop modem
Andy Burns wrote:
> Lobster wrote:
>
>> I was advised yesterday by an Orangedroid that in Spain the charge
>> would be 3GBP/Mb
>
> Europe1 zone seems to be £8/MB without a bundle.
Where d'you get that?
Seems correct at £3 to me: http://tinyurl.com/64343p (or
<http://www2.orange.co.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=PersonalIR&c=OUKPage&cid=1123171273258&mid=1123171272053&extarg4=1123171272053&extarg1=PAYM&extarg2=1122896677406&extarg3=&x=33&y=5>)
David
- 10-26-2008, 01:09 PM #9Steve TerryGuest
Re: Using GPRS phone as laptop modem
"Lobster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I want to set up my laptop to be able to access email, via my mobile phone.
>I know this isn't maybe the optimum way of doing things but it's a
>short-term solution using kit I already own.
>
> I have a Nokia 5500 Sport (a GPRS phone which is already configured for
> email, via Gmail, and web browsing), and have a USB cable to hook it up to
> my laptop, which runs XP Home with Outlook 2003 (or Outlook Express if
> needs be).
>
> Although I've been on Orange's configurator wotsit here:
> <http://web.orange.co.uk/eps/> I can't figure out how to get it working -
> I just seem to end up with modem settings which think it's a landline,
> which want me to enter in a phone number etc.
>
> Can anyone point me in the right direction to solve this?
>
> Incidentally the phone and PC are also bluetooth-enabled, which I'd prefer
> to use on balance; though I'm presuming that would be even more
> complicated to set up - plus would the connection be slower?)
> Thanks
> David
>
>
Download and install latest Nokia PC suite, one button dial up will have
automatically set up the settings for you.
You'll be lucky to get up to 28kb/s on GPRS
I would stick to the USB lead, bluetooth can slow it down even more
Trade it in for a 3G phone, I use an old Nokia 6630 on 3 PAYG,
5quid a month internet access top up, gives me up to 400kb/s,
2gb pm download max
(Although a phone with HSDPA like a Nokia 6120 would be better)
Using it now to send this on my Fujitsu Siemens laptop
Steve Terry
- 10-26-2008, 01:41 PM #10LobsterGuest
Re: Using GPRS phone as laptop modem
Steve Terry wrote:
> "Lobster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I want to set up my laptop to be able to access email, via my mobile phone.
>> I know this isn't maybe the optimum way of doing things but it's a
>> short-term solution using kit I already own.
>>
>> I have a Nokia 5500 Sport (a GPRS phone which is already configured for
>> email, via Gmail, and web browsing), and have a USB cable to hook it up to
>> my laptop, which runs XP Home with Outlook 2003 (or Outlook Express if
>> needs be).
>>
>> Although I've been on Orange's configurator wotsit here:
>> <http://web.orange.co.uk/eps/> I can't figure out how to get it working -
>> I just seem to end up with modem settings which think it's a landline,
>> which want me to enter in a phone number etc.
>>
>> Can anyone point me in the right direction to solve this?
>>
>> Incidentally the phone and PC are also bluetooth-enabled, which I'd prefer
>> to use on balance; though I'm presuming that would be even more
>> complicated to set up - plus would the connection be slower?)
> Download and install latest Nokia PC suite, one button dial up will have
> automatically set up the settings for you.
>
> You'll be lucky to get up to 28kb/s on GPRS
I *thought* I was getting 110kb/s according to the XP taskbar indicator
while testing this morning - is that not right?
>
> I would stick to the USB lead, bluetooth can slow it down even more
Hmm - based on previous advice received earlier in the thread which said
that bluetooth would not be the rate limiter, I've already gone down
that route! After all the aggro setting it up I don't think I'm about
to change again, but are you saying I've done the wrong thing?
David
- 10-26-2008, 01:48 PM #11Andy BurnsGuest
Re: Using GPRS phone as laptop modem
Lobster wrote:
> I *thought* I was getting 110kb/s according to the XP taskbar indicator
> while testing this morning - is that not right?
When XP doesn't know the speed the modem is actually connecting at, it
substitutes the speed the serial port is running at (115k2 in your case)
> Hmm - based on previous advice received earlier in the thread which said
> that bluetooth would not be the rate limiter, I've already gone down
> that route! After all the aggro setting it up I don't think I'm about
> to change again, but are you saying I've done the wrong thing?
Bluetooth will run faster than GPRS, so I wouldn't worry about it, never
caused me a bottleneck.
- 10-26-2008, 02:16 PM #12Steve TerryGuest
Re: Using GPRS phone as laptop modem
"Andy Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Lobster wrote:
>
>> I *thought* I was getting 110kb/s according to the XP taskbar indicator
>> while testing this morning - is that not right?
>
> When XP doesn't know the speed the modem is actually connecting at, it
> substitutes the speed the serial port is running at (115k2 in your case)
>
>> Hmm - based on previous advice received earlier in the thread which said
>> that bluetooth would not be the rate limiter, I've already gone down that
>> route! After all the aggro setting it up I don't think I'm about to
>> change again, but are you saying I've done the wrong thing?
>
> Bluetooth will run faster than GPRS, so I wouldn't worry about it, never
> caused me a bottleneck.
>
Simple, try both
Steve Terry
- 10-27-2008, 05:22 AM #13PhilGuest
Re: Using GPRS phone as laptop modem
Lobster <[email protected]> writes:
> >
> >> an unfortunately large amount of data which I unwittingly downloaded!
> > Try turning off the auto-updates of
> > windows/acrobat/java/flash/antivirus when you're using it, otherwise
> > it might get expensive.
>
> Thanks for that: will do. (My faux-pas was actually trying to
> download a massive email which unbeknown to me was sitting in the POP
> mailbox I was using to test!)
>
I would recommend you to set your e-mail programme to only download the message
headers, then only download the body of the messages you are interested in.
If your ISP supports it, use IMAP in preference to POP.
HTH Phil
--
Old protocols never die. They just get migrated over TCP/IP.
- 10-31-2008, 06:11 AM #14LobsterGuest
Re: Using GPRS phone as laptop modem
Well, having expended all that effort in getting this system up and
running before leaving home, I'm now in Spain and guess what - it
doesn't work. Hence I'm now in an internet cafe...
Although I do have a signal on the mobile (and can download email
direct to that OK), when I hook it up to the PC in order to use
Outlook, when it tries to connect it 'dials' OK, tries to 'register
the computer on the network' but then comes back with "Error 734: The
PPP link control protocol was terminated".
Under 'More Info' it says there could be a problem with the ISP - ???
if so, it's certainly consistent here in Spain, and doesn't happen at
home in the UK. Other settings it warned to check were as follows:
Properties - Security - Validate my Identity as follows - Allow
unsecured password
Properties - Networking - Type of Broadband connection - Enable LCP
connection (unticked)
I'd like to get this working now so at least it will be guaranteed to
work next time... it's a right pain because obviously I have no way of
testing this back in the UK!
Any advice much appreciated.
David
(PS sorry if I´ve double-posted this but I can´t understand Spanish :-
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