iBrick

Old_CSMAer <[email protected]> wrote:

> > I think they will try to "brick" them. That's Apple's MO. They are
> > control freaks. They are pissed that someone took their product and hacked
> > it. That being said, I won't fault Apple for trying to prevent hacks, I
> > will
> > fault them for trying to disable phones with a virus. Now I look at
> > Microsoft and see how they want to stop Xbox 360 hacking but I don't think
> > they've put out a firmware upgrade that would disable the Xbox 360 if it is
> > hacked.
>
> I suspect their agreement with AT and T requires that Apple use their
> best efforts to keep iPhones exclusive to AT and T. I doubt that this
> is a matter of Apple's corporate culture. It's all about the Benjamins.

yes, it's similar to Apple's relationship with the record companies.

They have signed a contract to "protect" the property of songs, thus
they need to keep the iPod valuable in the eyes of the record companies.
Apple is just the middleman, but the "uninformed" think Apple controls
all aspects. Nope, just the hardware and the lock to keep everyone safe.

ATT / Apple is similar in that ATT pays Apple for each subscription,
each month, so if ATT loses a stream of revenue with a hacked iphone,
it's not the users fault but Apple's. So Apple has to remain very strong
in keeping the thieves at bay.

My WHOLE angle is Apple should say "**** ATT", and also release an VoIP
based iPhone with NO ACTIVATION, then let the cards fall where they may.

Everything going to end up VoIP over free wireless networks anyway, so
while it pisses off the "establishment" cell companies and their
employees, they need to wake up to the FACT the most powerful computer
firm has entered their market and they need to do what Apple says or go
under.

Apple has a long history of wiping out "entire markets", the iPhone will
kill off most cell companies in the next 10 years. There is nothing they
can do at this point but to bow down and try to win Apple's favor... or,
in other words... to be allowed to sell the iPhone.

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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:47:44 -0600, Oxford wrote:


> Apple has a long history of wiping out "entire markets", the iPhone will
> kill off most cell companies in the next 10 years. There is nothing they
> can do at this point but to bow down and try to win Apple's favor... or,
> in other words... to be allowed to sell the iPhone.
>
> -

What "entire markets" has Apple killed off?



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Rick

In article <[email protected]>, Rick <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:47:44 -0600, Oxford wrote:
>
>
> > Apple has a long history of wiping out "entire markets", the iPhone will
> > kill off most cell companies in the next 10 years. There is nothing they
> > can do at this point but to bow down and try to win Apple's favor... or,
> > in other words... to be allowed to sell the iPhone.
> >
> > -
>
> What "entire markets" has Apple killed off?

Zune. ;-)

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Kurt <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> In article <[email protected]>, Rick <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:47:44 -0600, Oxford wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Apple has a long history of wiping out "entire markets", the iPhone
>> > will kill off most cell companies in the next 10 years. There is
>> > nothing they can do at this point but to bow down and try to win
>> > Apple's favor... or, in other words... to be allowed to sell the
>> > iPhone.
>> >
>> > -
>>
>> What "entire markets" has Apple killed off?
>
> Zune. ;-)
>

Gee- I thought Microsoft did that.

In news:[email protected]
Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:

> Everything going to end up VoIP over free wireless networks anyway,

Which we'll use from our flying cars and personal jet packs.

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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN [email protected]

Oxford wrote:
> My WHOLE angle is

No doubt based on non-Euclidean geometry.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in news:elmop-
[email protected]:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob> wrote:
>
>> Oxford wrote:
>> > My WHOLE angle is
>>
>> No doubt based on non-Euclidean geometry.
>
> I bet he's a whiz on Star Trek, though.
>
>

I thought it was Chutes and Ladders.

[email protected] (Nashton) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Bert Hyman wrote:
>> In
>> news:[email protected]
>> t Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Everything going to end up VoIP over free wireless networks
>>> anyway,
>>
>> Which we'll use from our flying cars and personal jet packs.
>>
>
> http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/09...uphone_iphone/

All very interesting, but I seem to have missed the part about "free
wirless networks."

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Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | [email protected]

Rick wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:47:44 -0600, Oxford wrote:
>
>
>> Apple has a long history of wiping out "entire markets", the iPhone will
>> kill off most cell companies in the next 10 years. There is nothing they
>> can do at this point but to bow down and try to win Apple's favor... or,
>> in other words... to be allowed to sell the iPhone.
>>
>> -
>
> What "entire markets" has Apple killed off?
>
>
>

Absolutely none! They have managed to turn plastic devices into socially
acceptable fashion accessories though. The truth is that the PC would not
be the dominant personal computing platform if Apple had not locked down
their hardware platforms over the years. Apple also is not in the High End
computing market and never has been. They've always been a peddler of stuff
for the consuming masses. They will never kill any markets with their
draconian lockdown business model. This has always kept them at bay. Why
would I want a car with the hood welded shut? No fun!


Dave

Scott wrote:

> Kurt <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>, Rick <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:47:44 -0600, Oxford wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> > Apple has a long history of wiping out "entire markets", the iPhone
>>> > will kill off most cell companies in the next 10 years. There is
>>> > nothing they can do at this point but to bow down and try to win
>>> > Apple's favor... or, in other words... to be allowed to sell the
>>> > iPhone.
>>> >
>>> > -
>>>
>>> What "entire markets" has Apple killed off?
>>
>> Zune. ;-)
>>
>
> Gee- I thought Microsoft did that.

He sounds like Charlie Brown waiting for the Big Pumpkin.


Dave