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  1. #16
    SMS 斯蒂文• 夏
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    Re: CR Survey of 48,000 cellular users

    Joel Koltner wrote:

    > Sure, I was just pointing that the somewhat smaller total coverage area/phone
    > selection/WiMax were *not* reasons most people would or wouldn't choose
    > Sprint.


    It's not just the total coverage area, it's that even within major metro
    areas Sprint is so bad, as the CR (and other surveys) have concluded.

    BTW, the margin of error on the CR survey, assuming 250 million
    subscribers, and 48,000 responses to the survey is well under 1% (with a
    99% confidence level). Break it down by region and by carrier, and there
    is still an extremely low margin of error.



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  2. #17
    Todd Allcock
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    Re: CR Survey of 48,000 cellular users

    At 05 Dec 2007 11:01:35 -0800 Joel Koltner wrote:

    > These are all decent reasons that many customers would leave Sprint for,
    > certainly. (Although the very first, "excessive amount of dropped calls"

    is
    > probably likely to be no better with any other carrier.)

    Perhaps I've been blessed with my coice of T-Mobile, but I can probably
    count the number of dropped calls I've had in the past couple of years on
    the fingers of one hand.

    > Sure, I was just pointing that the somewhat smaller total coverage
    > area/phone selection/WiMax were *not* reasons most people would or
    > wouldn't choose Sprint.


    Agreed. My friends and colleagues who use Sprint seem happy enough. That
    goes double for those on SERO plans.






  3. #18
    Cellguy
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    Re: CR Survey of 48,000 cellular users

    On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 14:41:08 +0000, Larry wrote:

    > "mikeyhsd" <[email protected]> wrote in news:-
    > [email protected]:
    >
    >> was told then if I pluged it in woujld violate my warrenty.

    >
    > Damn! That would be fun to test in small claims court in front
    > of a sympathetic judge. This is precisely why you should always
    > carry a friend to the store with you so they can hang themselves
    > in front of a credible witness who can testify.....or carry your
    > MP3 recorder in your pocket like I do.
    >
    > "We never said that."......"Yes, you did. Here, listen to
    > it!"....


    Be careful that this doesn't violate the wiretap laws in your state.
    That's why police cruisers with dashboard video cameras don't record the
    sound, just the picture.




  4. #19
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: CR Survey of 48,000 cellular users

    Cellguy <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > Be careful that this doesn't violate the wiretap laws in your

    state.
    > That's why police cruisers with dashboard video cameras don't

    record the
    > sound, just the picture.
    >
    >


    Nope. Not in South Carolina.....(c;

    Make my day.....hee hee.

    I'm doing the initial paperwork at the Socialist Security office
    to get some of my long string of taxes back, tomorrow. I've
    cleaned off the 2GB microSD in the Sellphone so it won't run out
    of recording space....every word.

    That's why they have a big sign on the wall telling you all
    SELLphones must be turned OFF in the building. OK, no problem.
    I'll record it on my 120GB MP3 player's hard drive. No problem
    at all.



    Larry
    --
    Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
    you're downloads threaten their networks......
    .....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
    http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v



  5. #20
    mikeyhsd
    Guest

    Re: CR Survey of 48,000 cellular users

    3 different phones in 4 months, same situation.
    store manager lived in near by area and had same problems.
    they kept promising to fix it by installing more towers, for 0ver 1 year.
    am happy with sprint.
    even with the occasional burp.



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    "Cubit" <[email protected]> wrote in message news[email protected]...
    Sounds like you had a defective phone. If you could see the towers, an
    external antenna doesn't seem logical.



    "mikeyhsd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    personally, dropped verizon at their encouragement the first day numbers
    became portable in my area.
    poor service, no service, dropped calls.
    lived in line of sight of 2 verizon towers.
    could go out into the yard and SEE them.
    sore recommedned buying an external antenna from a mall kiosak. brought it
    back to the store to make sure it was the one they recommended and was told
    then if I pluged it in woujld violate my warrenty. what a bunch of bull,
    since they recommended it to start with.

    switched to SPRINT and never looked back.
    occasionally have small problems with bilings but they get worked out, lots
    easier than they dia with verizon or at&t.




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    "SMS ???. ?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    -Verizon was #1 in 17 out of 20 markets surveyed (in 2 of those 17 they
    were tied with T-Mobile)

    -Alltel was #1 in 3 markets (Tampa, Cleveland, and Seattle)

    -Sprint was last in 19 out of 20 markets (AT&T was last in
    Minneapolis-Saint Paul, and Sprint was 2nd to last).

    I really thought that the declining number of AMPS handsets would hurt
    Verizon's ratings, but apparently that was not the case. Even with most
    users having digital-only phones, Verizon is still far better than AT&T,
    Sprint, or T-Mobile.

    I wonder how long Sprint can continue in business as an independent
    company. They have the worst coverage, a poor selection of handsets, and
    their Wi-Max plan has gone nowhere. Some say Verizon should acquire
    them, but I don't think that Verizon wants or needs them.





  6. #21
    Ness-Net
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    Re: CR Survey of 48,000 cellular users

    Please check this....
    Either they are wrong - or you mis-read.

    Alltel isn't even in the Seattle market.


    "SMS 斯蒂文• 夏" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    >
    > -Alltel was #1 in 3 markets (Tampa, Cleveland, and Seattle)
    >





  7. #22

    Re: CR Survey of 48,000 cellular users

    Todd Allcock wrote:
    > At 05 Dec 2007 11:01:35 -0800 Joel Koltner wrote:
    >
    >> These are all decent reasons that many customers would leave Sprint for,
    >> certainly. (Although the very first, "excessive amount of dropped calls"

    > is
    >> probably likely to be no better with any other carrier.)

    > Perhaps I've been blessed with my coice of T-Mobile, but I can probably
    > count the number of dropped calls I've had in the past couple of years on
    > the fingers of one hand.
    >
    >> Sure, I was just pointing that the somewhat smaller total coverage
    >> area/phone selection/WiMax were *not* reasons most people would or
    >> wouldn't choose Sprint.

    >
    > Agreed. My friends and colleagues who use Sprint seem happy enough. That
    > goes double for those on SERO plans.
    >
    >
    >

    I think most experienced cell users (more than one provider, over many
    years) would confirm that experience with coverage depends more on the
    individual handset than the provider. For instance, here in rural MO,
    on Sprint, wifey's Sanyo SCP-3100 is essentially useless until she hits
    a major highway. My older Sanyo RL-4920 is usually at home, as well as
    on the highway.

    The only other MAJOR provider that has service (albeit flaky) in this
    area is US Cellular. And, their coverage plans suck. I want service I
    can use almost anywhere I travel in the US.

    --
    Thieves get rich and saints get shot, and God don't answer prayers a lot.



  8. #23
    Carl
    Guest

    Re: CR Survey of 48,000 cellular users


    "SMS ???. ?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:4756ce7b$0$84219$
    >>
    >> It's "companies." Moron.

    >
    > Just because he don't speak no good english is no reason to call him a
    > maroon.
    >

    "AIN'T no reason to call him a maroon", dopey. ;-)






  9. #24
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: CR Survey of 48,000 cellular users

    At 05 Dec 2007 23:45:05 -0600 [email protected] wrote:

    > I think most experienced cell users (more than one provider, over
    > many years) would confirm that experience with coverage depends more
    > on the individual handset than the provider.


    Actually I find it's the opposite. While a crappy handset will give you
    more problems, in my experience an excellent performing handset can't save
    bad coverage.






  10. #25
    SMS
    Guest

    Re: CR Survey of 48,000 cellular users

    Todd Allcock wrote:
    > At 05 Dec 2007 23:45:05 -0600 [email protected] wrote:
    >
    >> I think most experienced cell users (more than one provider, over
    >> many years) would confirm that experience with coverage depends more
    >> on the individual handset than the provider.

    >
    > Actually I find it's the opposite. While a crappy handset will give you
    > more problems, in my experience an excellent performing handset can't save
    > bad coverage.


    This is true. No matter how good the handset, if there isn't ubiquitous
    coverage you won't be able to connect. In my area, Sprint and T-Mobile
    have far less coverage for two reasons: 1) they were latecomers and
    ended up with the undesirable 1900 MHz spectrum which requires many more
    towers for equivalent coverage than 800 MHz, and 2) they are running
    into more organized opposition to putting up more towers (which didn't
    exist in the early days when the companies that morphed into Verizon and
    AT&T began putting up towers) .



  11. #26
    clifto
    Guest

    Re: CR Survey of 48,000 cellular users

    Cellguy wrote:
    > Be careful that this doesn't violate the wiretap laws in your state.
    > That's why police cruisers with dashboard video cameras don't record the
    > sound, just the picture.


    In your state. Television is full of police dashboard video tapes complete
    with sound from wireless remote microphones.

    --
    A staffer for Democrat Senator Maria Cantwell of Washington has been
    arrested for trying to arrange a sexual tryst with a 13-year old boy.
    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...72senate1.html



  12. #27
    DTC
    Guest

    Re: CR Survey of 48,000 cellular users

    Cellguy wrote:
    > Be careful that this doesn't violate the wiretap laws in your state.
    > That's why police cruisers with dashboard video cameras don't record the
    > sound, just the picture.


    I'm sure that law enforcement agencies are exempt those laws.




  13. #28
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: CR Survey of 48,000 cellular users

    clifto <[email protected]> wrote in news:u93m25-3pt.ln1
    @remote.clifto.com:

    > A staffer for Democrat Senator Maria Cantwell of Washington has

    been
    > arrested for trying to arrange a sexual tryst with a 13-year

    old boy.
    > http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...7/1203072senat

    e1.html
    >
    >


    Do we detect a touch of jealousy?.....(c;

    Larry
    --
    Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
    you're downloads threaten their networks......
    .....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
    http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v



  14. #29
    DTC
    Guest

    Re: CR Survey of 48,000 cellular users

    David Arnstein wrote:
    > Is John Navas on vacation, or is there a problem with my usenet news
    > feed?


    He's busy up over on the rec.photo.digital NG prolly.



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