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- 12-14-2007, 06:48 PM #1O x f o r dGuest
iMojo <[email protected]> wrote:
> In its first full quarter of sales, the iPhone has already climbed past
> Microsoft¹s entire lineup of Windows Mobile smartphones in North
> America, according to figures compiled by Canalys and published by
> Symbian. That puts the iPhone ahead of smartphones running Symbian,
> Linux, and the Palm OS, but behind the first place RIM BlackBerry. The
> figures mesh with retail sales data already reported by NPD, which
> similarly described the size of the US market with a 27% chunk bit out
> by Apple¹s iPhone.
>
> Read more:
> http://tinyurl.com/39lrju
no massive surprise. apple has built the fist usable phone on the web,
and has now taken over in 6 months.
we all knew apple was going to do that about a year ago...
just shows how powerful apple's engineering is / how weak cell handset
makers are against their first serious competition in 40 years.
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- 12-14-2007, 07:23 PM #2JohnGuest
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
"O x f o r d" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> iMojo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In its first full quarter of sales, the iPhone has already climbed past
>> Microsoft¹s entire lineup of Windows Mobile smartphones in North
>> America, according to figures compiled by Canalys and published by
>> Symbian. That puts the iPhone ahead of smartphones running Symbian,
>> Linux, and the Palm OS, but behind the first place RIM BlackBerry. The
>> figures mesh with retail sales data already reported by NPD, which
>> similarly described the size of the US market with a 27% chunk bit out
>> by Apple¹s iPhone.
>>
>> Read more:
>> http://tinyurl.com/39lrju
>
> no massive surprise. apple has built the fist usable phone on the web,
> and has now taken over in 6 months.
>
> we all knew apple was going to do that about a year ago...
>
> just shows how powerful apple's engineering is / how weak cell handset
> makers are against their first serious competition in 40 years.
>
> -
Especially when pitted against one of the biggest pieces of junk to come
along in years - Blackberry. The "phone" used by terchnical incompetents
like Muahman.
- 12-15-2007, 01:48 AM #3Ness-NetGuest
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=7348&tag=nl.e622
http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com...rt-the-iphone/
Doesn’t natively support push business email or over-the-air calendar
sync. …
Doesn’t accommodate third-party applications, including those internally
developed. …
Doesn’t support securing data on the device through encryption.
Can’t be remotely locked or wiped in the event of a lost or stolen device. …
Lacks a hard keypad that provides feedback, which isn’t ideal for rapid and
accurate input. …
Has limited service provider support and its carrier lock-in inhibits
flexibility. …
Comes with a premium price tag. …
Is only the first generation. …
Lacks a removable battery, so when the battery kicks it, so does the
device. …
Lacks case studies of firms that have deployed it enterprisewide. …
"O x f o r d" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> iMojo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In its first full quarter of sales, the iPhone has already climbed past
>> Microsoft¹s entire lineup of Windows Mobile smartphones in North
>> America, according to figures compiled by Canalys and published by
>> Symbian. That puts the iPhone ahead of smartphones running Symbian,
>> Linux, and the Palm OS, but behind the first place RIM BlackBerry. The
>> figures mesh with retail sales data already reported by NPD, which
>> similarly described the size of the US market with a 27% chunk bit out
>> by Apple¹s iPhone.
>>
>> Read more:
>> http://tinyurl.com/39lrju
>
> no massive surprise. apple has built the fist usable phone on the web,
> and has now taken over in 6 months.
>
> we all knew apple was going to do that about a year ago...
>
> just shows how powerful apple's engineering is / how weak cell handset
> makers are against their first serious competition in 40 years.
>
> -
- 12-15-2007, 03:05 AM #4Mike MGuest
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
Ness-Net wrote:
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=7348&tag=nl.e622
>
> http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com...rt-the-iphone/
>
>
> Doesn’t natively support push business email or over-the-air calendar
> sync. …
>
> Doesn’t accommodate third-party applications, including those internally
> developed. …
>
> Doesn’t support securing data on the device through encryption.
>
> Can’t be remotely locked or wiped in the event of a lost or stolen
> device. …
>
> Lacks a hard keypad that provides feedback, which isn’t ideal for rapid
> and accurate input. …
>
> Has limited service provider support and its carrier lock-in inhibits
> flexibility. …
>
> Comes with a premium price tag. …
>
> Is only the first generation. …
>
> Lacks a removable battery, so when the battery kicks it, so does the
> device. …
>
> Lacks case studies of firms that have deployed it enterprisewide. …
>
>
> "O x f o r d" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> iMojo <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> In its first full quarter of sales, the iPhone has already climbed past
>>> Microsoft¹s entire lineup of Windows Mobile smartphones in North
>>> America, according to figures compiled by Canalys and published by
>>> Symbian. That puts the iPhone ahead of smartphones running Symbian,
>>> Linux, and the Palm OS, but behind the first place RIM BlackBerry. The
>>> figures mesh with retail sales data already reported by NPD, which
>>> similarly described the size of the US market with a 27% chunk bit out
>>> by Apple¹s iPhone.
>>>
>>> Read more:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/39lrju
>>
>> no massive surprise. apple has built the fist usable phone on the web,
>> and has now taken over in 6 months.
>>
>> we all knew apple was going to do that about a year ago...
>>
>> just shows how powerful apple's engineering is / how weak cell handset
>> makers are against their first serious competition in 40 years.
>>
>> -
>
JEALOUSY
- 12-15-2007, 10:38 AM #5LarryGuest
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:33643959-4831-4df7-8067-
[email protected]:
> I think others call it penis envy. He must feel very insecure.
>
> I am posting this using Apple touch screen.
>
>
Cool! I'm posting this from my Nokia folding BT keyboard on my Nokia
N800 Linux Tablet using the Maemo port of rdesktop remotely
controlling WinXP on one of my Windoze boxes on my LAN at home over
the free wifi at Linda's Restaurant eating Shrimp 'n Grits, a
Southern delecacy from the SC Shrimpers scraping the sand offshore
this very morning. Yum Yum...
Look at the header and you'll find I'm remotely controlling old Xnews
which is really cool....(c
Larry
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- 12-15-2007, 01:45 PM #6nospamatallGuest
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
Larry wrote:
> 4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:33643959-4831-4df7-8067-
> [email protected]:
>
>> I think others call it penis envy. He must feel very insecure.
>>
>> I am posting this using Apple touch screen.
>>
>>
>
> Cool! I'm posting this from my Nokia folding BT keyboard on my Nokia
> N800 Linux Tablet using the Maemo port of rdesktop remotely
> controlling WinXP on one of my Windoze boxes on my LAN at home over
> the free wifi at Linda's Restaurant eating Shrimp 'n Grits, a
> Southern delecacy from the SC Shrimpers scraping the sand offshore
> this very morning. Yum Yum...
>
> Look at the header and you'll find I'm remotely controlling old Xnews
> which is really cool....(c
The first one sounded a lot easier.
> Larry
- 12-15-2007, 03:26 PM #7KurtGuest
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
In article <[email protected]>, nospamatall <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Larry wrote:
> > 4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:33643959-4831-4df7-8067-
> > [email protected]:
> >
> >> I think others call it penis envy. He must feel very insecure.
> >>
> >> I am posting this using Apple touch screen.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Cool! I'm posting this from my Nokia folding BT keyboard on my Nokia
> > N800 Linux Tablet using the Maemo port of rdesktop remotely
> > controlling WinXP on one of my Windoze boxes on my LAN at home over
> > the free wifi at Linda's Restaurant eating Shrimp 'n Grits, a
> > Southern delecacy from the SC Shrimpers scraping the sand offshore
> > this very morning. Yum Yum...
> >
> > Look at the header and you'll find I'm remotely controlling old Xnews
> > which is really cool....(c
>
> The first one sounded a lot easier.
> > Larry
Exactly. LOL
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- 12-15-2007, 03:40 PM #8LarryGuest
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
nospamatall <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
> The first one sounded a lot easier.
>> Larry
>
Setup took 20 minutes. Logon from the N800 is two cliicks, one to
boot rdesktop from the Linux GUI and one to select which machine I
want to select. Real pain.
Larry
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- 12-15-2007, 06:57 PM #9nospamatallGuest
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
Larry wrote:
> nospamatall <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> The first one sounded a lot easier.
>>> Larry
>
> Setup took 20 minutes. Logon from the N800 is two cliicks, one to
> boot rdesktop from the Linux GUI and one to select which machine I
> want to select. Real pain.
>
> Larry
I don't want a iPhone, but I do want it to succeed. Not because I want
apple to succeed, I have no shares in them and I only care that they
continue to produce computers I can use (I sopse iPhone success is tied
in with that now...).
But I can see some cellphone company master demon slobbering and
grunting in his cave over some horrible device with loads of buttons and
words in an obscure language, muttering 'one day, all phones will be
like thissss', and his counterpart in cupertino waving an iPhone around
saying the same thing. I know who I want to win. And the others are
already changing, so that's good!
- 12-15-2007, 09:27 PM #10LarryGuest
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
nospamatall <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> I know who I want to win.
I know who I want to win, too. I want the gummit bureaucrats to quit
taking bribes from the telecom fatcats who are doing everything they can do
to stop Wifi rollout, which threatens their ****ty little SELLphone data
service ripoff.
It'll never happen...just like the rest of the media business with gummit
under their thumbs and the public taking it up the a$$.
Larry
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- 12-15-2007, 10:35 PM #11CarlGuest
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
John wrote:
> "O x f o r d" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Especially when pitted against one of the biggest pieces of junk to
> come along in years - Blackberry. The "phone" used by terchnical
> incompetents like Muahman.
>
Aw, and I just got my first Blackberry. I'll put myself in this position: I
am not a "technical incompetent" (I am a licensed Ham Radio operator as well
as a commercially licensed radio operator, as well as an early -1980-
computer user, fairly literate at it) and I LOVE my new BB Pearl.
"Biggest pieces of junk"? I don't think so. This little beauty does
everything it's supposed to do and does them well. My only complaint is that
they didn't throw WiFi into it too. By the way, I am not a business user of
email either, though the BB serves certain business related purposes for me.
Do I want an iPhone? You bet. I love the unparalleled touch-screen
technology of it. And the way it presents the internet. And that it has WiFi
besides wireless access. But, do I like that it's actually just an overly
sophisticated iPod with a phone in it? No. Do I like its cumbersome (albeit
very thin) size for a phone to carry around? No.
You want an excellent phone with an extensive address book and calendar
which is unobtrusive to carry around? Not an iPhone. You want a great,
though large, iPod with a compromised phone in it? The iPhone is your guy.
I'm considering keeping my BB and getting an iTouch to play around with,
which does the "good" stuff that the iPhone does, but without the
unnecessary phone/data contract, the iPhone's weak spot..
- 12-15-2007, 10:57 PM #12noneGuest
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
"Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote:
> and no, Oxford, IMAP isn't a
> replacement for true Exchange/BES access
Huh...why not? With imap idle, it should be -- though the iphone doesn't
support imap idle, so this point is somewhat irrelevant to the current
discussion.
~None
- 12-15-2007, 11:49 PM #13ZnUGuest
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
In article <[email protected]>,
"Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=7348&tag=nl.e622
>
> http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com...t-wont-support
> -the-iphone/
>
> Doesn¹t natively support push business email or over-the-air calendar
> sync. Š
[snip]
> Lacks case studies of firms that have deployed it enterprisewide. Š
It's an iPod with phone features. Why do so many people seem to think
it's targeted a the enterprise e-mail market? The above points are about
as relevant as noting that a Blackberry doesn't sync with iTunes.
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- 12-16-2007, 02:53 AM #14DTCGuest
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
Larry wrote:
> I know who I want to win, too. I want the gummit bureaucrats to quit
> taking bribes from the telecom fatcats who are doing everything they can do
> to stop Wifi rollout, which threatens their ****ty little SELLphone data
> service ripoff.
Of course you mean muni-WiFi. The cellular providers were trying to
squash muni-WiFi, but considering how many muni-WiFi providers are
discovering its a failed model; I don't think many cellular providers
have that on their radar scopes anymore.
- 12-16-2007, 03:52 AM #15Todd AllcockGuest
Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market
At 16 Dec 2007 04:57:08 +0000 none wrote:
> "Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > and no, Oxford, IMAP isn't a
> > replacement for true Exchange/BES access
>
> Huh...why not? With imap idle, it should be -- though the iphone doesn't
> support imap idle, so this point is somewhat irrelevant to the current
> discussion.
In theory, sure, but in the Real World (tm) you deal with what de facto
standards are in use. The business world is using Exchange and BES. So an
e-mail phone better support one or both, or you'll be carrying two phones-
one for playing your Hootie and the Blowfish MP3s, and one to get your
corporate e-mail...
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