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  1. #1
    O x f o r d
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    iMojo <[email protected]> wrote:

    > In its first full quarter of sales, the iPhone has already climbed past
    > Microsoft¹s entire lineup of Windows Mobile smartphones in North
    > America, according to figures compiled by Canalys and published by
    > Symbian. That puts the iPhone ahead of smartphones running Symbian,
    > Linux, and the Palm OS, but behind the first place RIM BlackBerry. The
    > figures mesh with retail sales data already reported by NPD, which
    > similarly described the size of the US market with a 27% chunk bit out
    > by Apple¹s iPhone.
    >
    > Read more:
    > http://tinyurl.com/39lrju


    no massive surprise. apple has built the fist usable phone on the web,
    and has now taken over in 6 months.

    we all knew apple was going to do that about a year ago...

    just shows how powerful apple's engineering is / how weak cell handset
    makers are against their first serious competition in 40 years.

    -



    See More: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market




  2. #2
    John
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    Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market


    "O x f o r d" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > iMojo <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> In its first full quarter of sales, the iPhone has already climbed past
    >> Microsoft¹s entire lineup of Windows Mobile smartphones in North
    >> America, according to figures compiled by Canalys and published by
    >> Symbian. That puts the iPhone ahead of smartphones running Symbian,
    >> Linux, and the Palm OS, but behind the first place RIM BlackBerry. The
    >> figures mesh with retail sales data already reported by NPD, which
    >> similarly described the size of the US market with a 27% chunk bit out
    >> by Apple¹s iPhone.
    >>
    >> Read more:
    >> http://tinyurl.com/39lrju

    >
    > no massive surprise. apple has built the fist usable phone on the web,
    > and has now taken over in 6 months.
    >
    > we all knew apple was going to do that about a year ago...
    >
    > just shows how powerful apple's engineering is / how weak cell handset
    > makers are against their first serious competition in 40 years.
    >
    > -


    Especially when pitted against one of the biggest pieces of junk to come
    along in years - Blackberry. The "phone" used by terchnical incompetents
    like Muahman.




  3. #3
    Ness-Net
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    Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=7348&tag=nl.e622

    http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com...rt-the-iphone/

    Doesn’t natively support push business email or over-the-air calendar
    sync. …

    Doesn’t accommodate third-party applications, including those internally
    developed. …

    Doesn’t support securing data on the device through encryption.

    Can’t be remotely locked or wiped in the event of a lost or stolen device. …

    Lacks a hard keypad that provides feedback, which isn’t ideal for rapid and
    accurate input. …

    Has limited service provider support and its carrier lock-in inhibits
    flexibility. …

    Comes with a premium price tag. …

    Is only the first generation. …

    Lacks a removable battery, so when the battery kicks it, so does the
    device. …

    Lacks case studies of firms that have deployed it enterprisewide. …


    "O x f o r d" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > iMojo <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> In its first full quarter of sales, the iPhone has already climbed past
    >> Microsoft¹s entire lineup of Windows Mobile smartphones in North
    >> America, according to figures compiled by Canalys and published by
    >> Symbian. That puts the iPhone ahead of smartphones running Symbian,
    >> Linux, and the Palm OS, but behind the first place RIM BlackBerry. The
    >> figures mesh with retail sales data already reported by NPD, which
    >> similarly described the size of the US market with a 27% chunk bit out
    >> by Apple¹s iPhone.
    >>
    >> Read more:
    >> http://tinyurl.com/39lrju

    >
    > no massive surprise. apple has built the fist usable phone on the web,
    > and has now taken over in 6 months.
    >
    > we all knew apple was going to do that about a year ago...
    >
    > just shows how powerful apple's engineering is / how weak cell handset
    > makers are against their first serious competition in 40 years.
    >
    > -





  4. #4
    Mike M
    Guest

    Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market

    Ness-Net wrote:
    > http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=7348&tag=nl.e622
    >
    > http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com...rt-the-iphone/
    >
    >
    > Doesn’t natively support push business email or over-the-air calendar
    > sync. …
    >
    > Doesn’t accommodate third-party applications, including those internally
    > developed. …
    >
    > Doesn’t support securing data on the device through encryption.
    >
    > Can’t be remotely locked or wiped in the event of a lost or stolen
    > device. …
    >
    > Lacks a hard keypad that provides feedback, which isn’t ideal for rapid
    > and accurate input. …
    >
    > Has limited service provider support and its carrier lock-in inhibits
    > flexibility. …
    >
    > Comes with a premium price tag. …
    >
    > Is only the first generation. …
    >
    > Lacks a removable battery, so when the battery kicks it, so does the
    > device. …
    >
    > Lacks case studies of firms that have deployed it enterprisewide. …
    >
    >
    > "O x f o r d" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> iMojo <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> In its first full quarter of sales, the iPhone has already climbed past
    >>> Microsoft¹s entire lineup of Windows Mobile smartphones in North
    >>> America, according to figures compiled by Canalys and published by
    >>> Symbian. That puts the iPhone ahead of smartphones running Symbian,
    >>> Linux, and the Palm OS, but behind the first place RIM BlackBerry. The
    >>> figures mesh with retail sales data already reported by NPD, which
    >>> similarly described the size of the US market with a 27% chunk bit out
    >>> by Apple¹s iPhone.
    >>>
    >>> Read more:
    >>> http://tinyurl.com/39lrju

    >>
    >> no massive surprise. apple has built the fist usable phone on the web,
    >> and has now taken over in 6 months.
    >>
    >> we all knew apple was going to do that about a year ago...
    >>
    >> just shows how powerful apple's engineering is / how weak cell handset
    >> makers are against their first serious competition in 40 years.
    >>
    >> -

    >

    JEALOUSY



  5. #5
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market

    4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:33643959-4831-4df7-8067-
    [email protected]:

    > I think others call it penis envy. He must feel very insecure.
    >
    > I am posting this using Apple touch screen.
    >
    >


    Cool! I'm posting this from my Nokia folding BT keyboard on my Nokia
    N800 Linux Tablet using the Maemo port of rdesktop remotely
    controlling WinXP on one of my Windoze boxes on my LAN at home over
    the free wifi at Linda's Restaurant eating Shrimp 'n Grits, a
    Southern delecacy from the SC Shrimpers scraping the sand offshore
    this very morning. Yum Yum...

    Look at the header and you'll find I'm remotely controlling old Xnews
    which is really cool....(c


    Larry
    --
    Merry Christmas!
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_NhFS4xEE



  6. #6
    nospamatall
    Guest

    Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market

    Larry wrote:
    > 4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:33643959-4831-4df7-8067-
    > [email protected]:
    >
    >> I think others call it penis envy. He must feel very insecure.
    >>
    >> I am posting this using Apple touch screen.
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Cool! I'm posting this from my Nokia folding BT keyboard on my Nokia
    > N800 Linux Tablet using the Maemo port of rdesktop remotely
    > controlling WinXP on one of my Windoze boxes on my LAN at home over
    > the free wifi at Linda's Restaurant eating Shrimp 'n Grits, a
    > Southern delecacy from the SC Shrimpers scraping the sand offshore
    > this very morning. Yum Yum...
    >
    > Look at the header and you'll find I'm remotely controlling old Xnews
    > which is really cool....(c


    The first one sounded a lot easier.
    > Larry




  7. #7
    Kurt
    Guest

    Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market

    In article <[email protected]>, nospamatall <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > Larry wrote:
    > > 4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:33643959-4831-4df7-8067-
    > > [email protected]:
    > >
    > >> I think others call it penis envy. He must feel very insecure.
    > >>
    > >> I am posting this using Apple touch screen.
    > >>
    > >>

    > >
    > > Cool! I'm posting this from my Nokia folding BT keyboard on my Nokia
    > > N800 Linux Tablet using the Maemo port of rdesktop remotely
    > > controlling WinXP on one of my Windoze boxes on my LAN at home over
    > > the free wifi at Linda's Restaurant eating Shrimp 'n Grits, a
    > > Southern delecacy from the SC Shrimpers scraping the sand offshore
    > > this very morning. Yum Yum...
    > >
    > > Look at the header and you'll find I'm remotely controlling old Xnews
    > > which is really cool....(c

    >
    > The first one sounded a lot easier.
    > > Larry


    Exactly. LOL

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  8. #8
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market

    nospamatall <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    >
    > The first one sounded a lot easier.
    >> Larry

    >


    Setup took 20 minutes. Logon from the N800 is two cliicks, one to
    boot rdesktop from the Linux GUI and one to select which machine I
    want to select. Real pain.

    Larry
    --
    Merry Christmas!
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_NhFS4xEE



  9. #9
    nospamatall
    Guest

    Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market

    Larry wrote:
    > nospamatall <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
    >
    >> The first one sounded a lot easier.
    >>> Larry

    >
    > Setup took 20 minutes. Logon from the N800 is two cliicks, one to
    > boot rdesktop from the Linux GUI and one to select which machine I
    > want to select. Real pain.
    >
    > Larry


    I don't want a iPhone, but I do want it to succeed. Not because I want
    apple to succeed, I have no shares in them and I only care that they
    continue to produce computers I can use (I sopse iPhone success is tied
    in with that now...).

    But I can see some cellphone company master demon slobbering and
    grunting in his cave over some horrible device with loads of buttons and
    words in an obscure language, muttering 'one day, all phones will be
    like thissss', and his counterpart in cupertino waving an iPhone around
    saying the same thing. I know who I want to win. And the others are
    already changing, so that's good!



  10. #10
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market

    nospamatall <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    > I know who I want to win.


    I know who I want to win, too. I want the gummit bureaucrats to quit
    taking bribes from the telecom fatcats who are doing everything they can do
    to stop Wifi rollout, which threatens their ****ty little SELLphone data
    service ripoff.

    It'll never happen...just like the rest of the media business with gummit
    under their thumbs and the public taking it up the a$$.

    Larry
    --
    Merry Christmas!
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_NhFS4xEE



  11. #11
    Carl
    Guest

    Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market

    John wrote:
    > "O x f o r d" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >
    > Especially when pitted against one of the biggest pieces of junk to
    > come along in years - Blackberry. The "phone" used by terchnical
    > incompetents like Muahman.
    >

    Aw, and I just got my first Blackberry. I'll put myself in this position: I
    am not a "technical incompetent" (I am a licensed Ham Radio operator as well
    as a commercially licensed radio operator, as well as an early -1980-
    computer user, fairly literate at it) and I LOVE my new BB Pearl.

    "Biggest pieces of junk"? I don't think so. This little beauty does
    everything it's supposed to do and does them well. My only complaint is that
    they didn't throw WiFi into it too. By the way, I am not a business user of
    email either, though the BB serves certain business related purposes for me.

    Do I want an iPhone? You bet. I love the unparalleled touch-screen
    technology of it. And the way it presents the internet. And that it has WiFi
    besides wireless access. But, do I like that it's actually just an overly
    sophisticated iPod with a phone in it? No. Do I like its cumbersome (albeit
    very thin) size for a phone to carry around? No.

    You want an excellent phone with an extensive address book and calendar
    which is unobtrusive to carry around? Not an iPhone. You want a great,
    though large, iPod with a compromised phone in it? The iPhone is your guy.
    I'm considering keeping my BB and getting an iTouch to play around with,
    which does the "good" stuff that the iPhone does, but without the
    unnecessary phone/data contract, the iPhone's weak spot..






  12. #12
    none
    Guest

    Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market

    "Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > and no, Oxford, IMAP isn't a
    > replacement for true Exchange/BES access


    Huh...why not? With imap idle, it should be -- though the iphone doesn't
    support imap idle, so this point is somewhat irrelevant to the current
    discussion.

    ~None






  13. #13
    ZnU
    Guest

    Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=7348&tag=nl.e622
    >
    > http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com...t-wont-support
    > -the-iphone/
    >
    > Doesn¹t natively support push business email or over-the-air calendar
    > sync. Š


    [snip]

    > Lacks case studies of firms that have deployed it enterprisewide. Š


    It's an iPod with phone features. Why do so many people seem to think
    it's targeted a the enterprise e-mail market? The above points are about
    as relevant as noting that a Blackberry doesn't sync with iTunes.

    --
    "That's George Washington, the first president, of course. The interesting thing
    about him is that I read three--three or four books about him last year. Isn't
    that interesting?"
    - George W. Bush to reporter Kai Diekmann, May 5, 2006



  14. #14
    DTC
    Guest

    Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market

    Larry wrote:
    > I know who I want to win, too. I want the gummit bureaucrats to quit
    > taking bribes from the telecom fatcats who are doing everything they can do
    > to stop Wifi rollout, which threatens their ****ty little SELLphone data
    > service ripoff.


    Of course you mean muni-WiFi. The cellular providers were trying to
    squash muni-WiFi, but considering how many muni-WiFi providers are
    discovering its a failed model; I don't think many cellular providers
    have that on their radar scopes anymore.



  15. #15
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: iPhone Climbs Past Entire NA Windows Mobile Market

    At 16 Dec 2007 04:57:08 +0000 none wrote:
    > "Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > and no, Oxford, IMAP isn't a
    > > replacement for true Exchange/BES access

    >
    > Huh...why not? With imap idle, it should be -- though the iphone doesn't
    > support imap idle, so this point is somewhat irrelevant to the current
    > discussion.



    In theory, sure, but in the Real World (tm) you deal with what de facto
    standards are in use. The business world is using Exchange and BES. So an
    e-mail phone better support one or both, or you'll be carrying two phones-
    one for playing your Hootie and the Blowfish MP3s, and one to get your
    corporate e-mail...





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