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  1. #46
    Bob
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    Re: irrelevance, was Re: The future of CDMA and EV-DO now in doubt.

    "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> amazed us all with the
    following in news:[email protected]:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> > If we all drove 2000 pound vehicles, we'd use less fuel and nobody
    >> > would have any inherent safety advantage.

    >>
    >>
    >> Why is a safety advantage a bad thing?

    >
    > Because as I've pointed out, if everyone goes for the "more is better"
    > American style "I have to have a huge vehicle around me" concept, then
    > no one has a safety advantage. Your 6000 pound vehicle now has to
    > absorb the energy of another "safe" 6000 pound vehicle coming at it.
    >
    >


    So the steel cage that would surround the passenger area in a 6000 lb. car
    is not necessary if the vehicles are lighter?

    Your argument only applies to instances where two 6000 lb. cars collide
    head on. Again, this represents a very, very small portion of the total.
    It does not apply to single cars accidents or accidents where one car in
    not in motion.



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  2. #47
    clifto
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    Re: irrelevance, was Re: The future of CDMA and EV-DO now in doubt.

    David W Studeman wrote:
    > Is having a nuclear powered vehicle out of the question?


    Only until they can guarantee that one can survive a 150MPH collision and
    not even dent, much less breach.

    --
    If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination,
    my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.



  3. #48
    4phun
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    Re: irrelevance, was Re: The future of CDMA and EV-DO now in doubt.

    On Jan 21, 9:32*am, larry <[email protected]> wrote:
    > David W Studeman <[email protected]> wrote innews:[email protected]:
    >
    > > Kurt wrote:

    >
    > >> In article <[email protected]>,
    > >> *Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    > >>> Kurt <[email protected]> wrote in
    > >>> news:labolide-61C4BC.18420006012008 @news.giganews.com:

    >
    > >>> > Had to remark on your sig. Here in L.A., big problem with
    > >>> > catalytic converter theft because of high price of Rhodium -
    > >>> > article in LA TImes says while many cut them off, pros can use
    > >>> > 14mm socket wrenches and remove one in 90 seconds. Trucks are
    > >>> > easier targets because higher clearance.
    > >>> > Theft-proofing requires spot welding CCs as deterrence.

    >
    > >>> I fully suspect to find the cars in the neighborhood stripped of
    > >>> R-134c refridgerant, catalytic converters, and other valuable
    > >>> pieces, while the carcass of the car remains in place, quite soon.
    > >>> They won't be stealing the car as noone can afford to drive it at
    > >>> $US10/gallon or more.

    >
    > >> Sad to say, but the only way US drivers will change to small
    > >> efficient vehicles is with high gas prices.

    >
    > > And the sudden suicidal desire to be squashed like a grape if one gets
    > > hit. Econo-coffins are not the answer, alternative fuels are and no,
    > > not E85. I prefer Methanol to Ethanol as Methanol has nearly the same
    > > calories per cubic foot as gasoline, Ethanol doesn't so more is needed
    > > to get the same power. Methanol is easier to make as it is only a
    > > modified methane molecule, maybe future sewers will help produce
    > > Methanol? Take a huge dump and fill 'er up? I see corn subsidies as a
    > > big factor in the push for E85. Still, I'm a big fan of hydrogen but
    > > it's not the most practical and economical. Is having a nuclear
    > > powered vehicle out of the question?

    >
    > > Dave

    >
    > I'm green, here. *2 diesel Mercedes cars and a diesel GM stepvan all run
    > on used vegetable oil from 3 Chinese restaurants. *3 of us vegoil guys
    > have a little group. *One has a warehouse for storage and separation, I
    > have the van for pickup and delivery to the warehouse and the third guy
    > is an excellent mechanic who built and maintains the final filtering
    > facility. *We all have Frybrid vehicles (www.frybrid.com) but that's
    > only my stepvan which was a total waste of money in the Southern
    > climate. *It rarely freezes here, so heating the oil before injection is
    > hardly necessary. *My two cars are unmodified and run on a blend of
    > mineral spirits (paint thinner), which is dirt cheap from commercial
    > places, and filtered vegoil. *There is no sulphur emissions dino has. *
    > There is no smoke, either. *The blend costs me about 23c/gallon to make,
    > plus my time, of course.
    >
    > We collect the oil from the restaurants already primary filtered. *We
    > bought each restaurant a filter funnel they use to pour the oil back
    > into the plastic-lined boxes the oil comes to them in. *We dispose of
    > not only the oil but the box for them, saving them more money. *They
    > really appreciate me carrying off their waste that was costing them
    > hundreds/month to dispose of.
    >
    > The oil is simply left to separate from its food particles in the
    > warehouse for about 60 days, not moved at all. *The oldest stored boxes
    > are pipetted about 3" off the bottom by the pump-powered filter system
    > consisting of two big truck fuel filters/water separators and a gear
    > pump from a hydraulic system. *Suction guages warn us when filters need
    > changing. *We've never found any water in the separators as the oil was
    > 450F and boils it off during the cooking. *The cleaned oil is pumped
    > into 55 gallon plastic drums, ready for use. *Two drums are marked for
    > my blending, about a quart of mineral spirits to 20 gallons of oil (in
    > summer) and 12 gallons of oil (in winter when it's near freezing some
    > mornings). *These drums have a home-made agitator in them for mixing and
    > are agitated just before I pump them into the cars. *The other guys all
    > have Frybrids so run pure oil, after the oil is warmed by the Frybrid
    > before its computer switches from fuel oil to vegoil.
    >
    > Unlike alcohol, explosive gasses like propane/hydrogen/etc., even
    > explosive spirits like gasoline or gasohol, vegoil, even more than
    > diesel fuel, has no vapors and is SAFE to handle, store and burn at high
    > pressure in the diesel engines.
    >
    > Vegoil isn't as powerful as fuel oil, but who cares as long as it's
    > free...(c;
    >
    > The whole energy industry can kiss our collective asses.....
    >
    > I guess we better get back to fighting over SELLphones....(c;


    Larry I am impressed.

    Vic



  4. #49
    larry
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    Re: irrelevance, was Re: The future of CDMA and EV-DO now in doubt.

    4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:cfdceb07-894b-4065-a0e3-
    [email protected]:

    > Larry I am impressed.
    >
    > Vic
    >
    >


    Money, even Federal Reserve fake banknotes, is a terrible thing to
    waste....(c;




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