Bad night....

"More than $40 billion in shareholder wealth has vanished since the end of
December, when Apple's stock hit its 52-week high of $202.96."

Apple's down over 11% from closing to 8PM, tonight!

Bad night......fasten seat belts.

Return tray tables to full upright position.

Stewardesses secure the cabin. Turbulence ahead....

The captain.

PS - Where's the big 4phun announcement of Apple News??

He must be talking to his broker, eh Vic?

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4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:3286e2ec-41fc-4f28-9fb8-
[email protected]:

> Wolf wrote in a research note to clients today that the Apple upgrade
> is based "chiefly on the prospect that the current migration of
> Windows users to the Mac platform is likely to accelerate over the
> next several years."
>
>

More like banker manipulation than anything technical. This is a scam
running from the banker houses.

Same old crap. Create panic and drive the price down. Start buying up
shares, quietly, a little at a time to maximize shares before someone
notices and the prices go back up. Bankers got quite rich in 1929, you
know. Their families are still living off the cash and gold stolen from
the people.

4phun wrote:
> Wolf wrote in a research note to clients today that the Apple upgrade
> is based "chiefly on the prospect that the current migration of
> Windows users to the Mac platform is likely to accelerate over the
> next several years."

Translation: Apple is *STILL* trying to play catch up with Windoze.

DTC <[email protected]> wrote in news:APUlj.2889$nK5.128
@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:

> 4phun wrote:
>> Wolf wrote in a research note to clients today that the Apple upgrade
>> is based "chiefly on the prospect that the current migration of
>> Windows users to the Mac platform is likely to accelerate over the
>> next several years."
>
> Translation: Apple is *STILL* trying to play catch up with Windoze.
>

Apple's no threat to Windows or Linux. Windows and Linux allow outsiders
to write programs for those operating systems, precisely why Windows took
over the whole market in the first place. Apple's closed-system nonsense
doomed it from the first Apple I.

4phun wrote:

> In a note to clients today, Kather advises using Apple current drop in
> price "to patiently accumulate shares" ahead of new products,
> including the 3G iPhone expected in May-June 2008.

Since the 3G iPhone has already been announced, it's already been
factored into the current price, though the slow sales in Europe are
partially due to the lack of 3G. The main reason for the drop in the
stock price is lower-than-expected iPhone sales, and slowing iPod sales.

"http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itunes/news/index.cfm?newsid=20240"

What's needed is a product in a new category, or a major feature
enhancement.

Some ideas:

-Add voice-dialing to the iPhone. As more states and countries pass laws
prohibiting handheld use of phones while driving, the iPhone is at a big
disadvantage since you now have to hold it in order to enter a phone
number, and this will be illegal (in California and Washington later
this year, and already in several northeastern states, and much of
Europe and Asia).

-iphone-GPS and iPod Touch-GPS: Adds full GPS capability to the iPhone
and iTouch, both for in-car and portable use (like a Garmin), along with
down-loadable topo and satellite maps from the iMaps section of iTunes
(Bushnell is selling overlay satellite maps for it's portable GPS). With
8GB or 16GB of Flash, this is a natural application.

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 06:09:20 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote:

>4phun wrote:
>
>> In a note to clients today, Kather advises using Apple current drop in
>> price "to patiently accumulate shares" ahead of new products,
>> including the 3G iPhone expected in May-June 2008.
>
>Since the 3G iPhone has already been announced,


Well thats totally bogus. It's been rumored, but hardly announced.

Provide a url of any announcement from Apple mentioning a 3G iPhone
if you can.

Ron wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 06:09:20 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> 4phun wrote:
>>
>>> In a note to clients today, Kather advises using Apple current drop in
>>> price "to patiently accumulate shares" ahead of new products,
>>> including the 3G iPhone expected in May-June 2008.
>> Since the 3G iPhone has already been announced,
>
>
> Well thats totally bogus. It's been rumored, but hardly announced.
>
> Provide a url of any announcement from Apple mentioning a 3G iPhone
> if you can.

The announcement came from AT&T, not Apple. Apple hasn't confirmed what
AT&T has announced.

"http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080123.RAPPLE23/TPStory/Business"

"Randall Stephenson, chief executive at AT&T - the sole U.S. iPhone
carrier - remarked late last year that an iPhone capable of accessing 3G
networks - which provide better access to the Internet on mobile devices
- would arrive in 2008. However, Apple has yet to make any definitive
announcements regarding an upgraded iPhone."

Not 'might be coming,' not 'is rumored to be a new product," but "_would
arrive in 2008_."

It makes sense that AT&T, anxious to prevent churn to its 3G competitors
would make an announcement like this, while Apple, anxious to prevent
Osborning (STFW, young people) of the current model, doesn't want to say
anything. Of course most of the early U.S. iPhone buyers probably can't
even ***** 3G, while in Europe the lack of 3G is a very big issue.

Does _anyone_ think that a 3G iPhone is not going to be available in 2008?

On Jan 23, 11:04 pm, larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> 4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:3286e2ec-41fc-4f28-9fb8-
> [email protected]:
>
> > Wolf wrote in a research note to clients today that the Apple upgrade
> > is based "chiefly on the prospect that the current migration of
> > Windows users to the Mac platform is likely to accelerate over the
> > next several years."
>
> More like banker manipulation than anything technical. This is a scam
> running from the banker houses.
>
> Same old crap. Create panic and drive the price down. Start buying up
> shares, quietly, a little at a time to maximize shares before someone
> notices and the prices go back up. Bankers got quite rich in 1929, you
> know. Their families are still living off the cash and gold stolen from
> the people.

Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 04:45 PM EST -- Apple Stock Quote:
135.60 (-3.472, -2.5%)
Experts say Apple well-insulated against market chill; AAPL is a steal
Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 09:00 AM EST

"Usually, on days when Apple Inc. (AAPL) reports earnings, giddy
investors have a chuckle about the company's famously conservative
forecasts and proceed to load up on the stock--confident that Apple's
closely guarded pipeline of new products will keep sales and profits
on the rise. But in a reflection of the gloomy mood on Wall Street
over the prospect of a recession, investors found little to laugh
about in Apple's latest forecast. After the company said earnings in
the March quarter would come in 14% below analysts' expectations, the
share price fell more than 11%, to $137.93," Peter Burrows reports for
BusinessWeek.

"Yet on closer inspection, there are signs that Apple can not only
weather an economic contraction but emerge stronger than ever. Most
important is the strength of its Mac business. Sure, Apple sold a few
million fewer iPods than analysts expected, but Mac sales were
scorching--particularly the desktop iMac, whose sales grew 53% in a
market that expanded just 10%," Burrows reports.

Burrows reports, "There's little question how Apple executives feel
about the company's prospects. During a conference call for analysts
and shareholders, Chief Financial Officer Peter Oppenheimer said: "I
couldn't be more confident in what we're doing."

"Strength in the PC business is much more of a positive than slightly
disappointing iPod sales are a negative... There's a silver lining in
the iPod sales numbers as well. While the 22.1 million units were 2
million to 3 million shy of consensus expectations, Apple met Wu's
revenue target for its famous MP3 line. That means the shortfall was
mostly for Apple's cheapest, least profitable product, the iPod
Shuffle, says Wu. So while consumers normally opt for cheaper models
in nervous economic times, Apple's customers clearly see the value in
the company's swankiest products. That's good news for Apple's well-
rehearsed iPod strategy: Bring out a headline-grabbing gizmo at a high
price and spend the next few years milking demand by maintaining that
price for new high-end models while bringing out cheaper models to
reach thriftier shoppers," Burrows reports.

Burrows reports, "Apple is likely far more prepared for an economic
downdraft than most other tech companies. Sure, many consumers may put
off purchases of the latest iPod or iPhone if the recession hits hard,
but Mac sales should hold their own, says Harvard Professor David
Yoffie: 'Apple sells to the least price-sensitive part of the market.
While no company is immune from a recession, Apple is a little less
vulnerable.' Needham & Co. analyst Charles Wolf puts it another way:
'I think this is an outrageous buying opportunity. It's not a cheap
stock, but you're getting a company that can grow at 25% a year for
who knows how many years, at 25 times earnings. To me, that's a steal--
recession or no recession.'"

Much more in the full article here.
http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...122_786382.htm

SMS <[email protected]> wrote in news:4798bfd8$0$84166
[email protected]:

> "Randall Stephenson, chief executive at AT&T - the sole U.S. iPhone
> carrier - remarked late last year that an iPhone capable of accessing 3G
> networks - which provide better access to the Internet on mobile devices
> - would arrive in 2008. However, Apple has yet to make any definitive
> announcements regarding an upgraded iPhone."
>

What good is a 3G iPhoney gonna do on a 2G ATT network?

4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:75707698-87a3-4bbb-89f3-
[email protected]:

> 135.60 (-3.472, -2.5%)

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/080124/microsoft.html?.v=4

This news, today, will even help stop the blood letting at AAPL....

Thanks, Bill....(c;

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=NOK&x=0&y=0

This news will also help the SELLphone sector as Nokia blows through the
roof rising over 12% just TODAY! Nokia, now selling 40+% of the SELLphones
across the planet, and making the number ONE Amazon computer seller, the
Nokia N800 Linux Internet Tablet last Christmas, hits the nail right on the
head, yet again with its silly ideas of OPEN SOURCE LINUX operating systems
attracting hundreds of programmers to work for free by giving them deeply
discounted toys to play with in exchange for really cool programs.

Not everyone's stock is losing its ass in telecom this week.....

SMS <[email protected]> wrote in news:479931fd$0$84189
[email protected]:

> If they had a card
> slot on the iPhone and the Touch, and Bluetooth on the Touch, and opened
> it up to developers, they could sell a lot of these into vertical
> applications that are now developing custom products, or basing their
> products on the Windows Mobile devices which are more ope

That has NEVER been part of the Apple business model....Open access. They
could have had Bill Gates' corporate ass if they had opened up the Apple II
years ago. They had computers that were easy to use by anyone and they
BLEW IT with corporate greed trying to make their computers into a
continuous revenue stream like a SELLphone has become. Micro$oft said,
here it is, here's an SDK, make something out of it......and the 3rd party
developers certainly did....even to a much harder-to-use, less user
friendly system that everyone bought because it has LOTS OF SOFTWARE and
lots of that was, and still is, FREEWARE. To see how important and good
working that is, just check Bill Gates' checkbook balance!

Apple will never learn that lesson......

> What good is a 3G iPhoney gonna do on a 2G ATT network?

That has lousy coverage patterns.

4phun <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
news:8f406558-6ef8-4497-8362-db1a6308d84c@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

> On Jan 22, 10:51 pm, larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "More than $40 billion in shareholder wealth has vanished since the
>> end of December, when Apple's stock hit its 52-week high of $202.96."
>>
>> Apple's down over 11% from closing to 8PM, tonight!
>>
>> Bad night......fasten seat belts.
>>
>> Return tray tables to full upright position.
>>
>> Stewardesses secure the cabin. Turbulence ahead....
>>
>> The captain.
>>
>> PS - Where's the big 4phun announcement of Apple News??
>>
>> He must be talking to his broker, eh Vic?
>
> W.R. Hambrecht reiterates 'Buy" on Apple, ups target price
> Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 04:29 PM EST
>
> W.R. Hambrecht analyst Matthew Kather has reiterated his "Buy" rating
> on Apple Inc. (AAPL) and raised target price from $203 to $218.
>
> In a note to clients today, Kather advises using Apple current drop in
> price "to patiently accumulate shares" ahead of new products,
> including the 3G iPhone expected in May-June 2008.
>

Down another $5.59 on Friday, (another 4%). Down $73.26 in less than a
month (36%). Apples continues to rtrend negatively against the
competition. Reports of poor guidance, many "missing" iPhones, nothing new
in R&D to spur sales, and a drop in US PC marketshare ranking. They might
be able to recover from one of these conditions, but not all four.

Bob <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> 4phun <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
> news:8f406558-6ef8-4497-8362-db1a6308d84c@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Jan 22, 10:51 pm, larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> "More than $40 billion in shareholder wealth has vanished since the
>>> end of December, when Apple's stock hit its 52-week high of
>>> $202.96."
>>>
>>> Apple's down over 11% from closing to 8PM, tonight!
>>>
>>> Bad night......fasten seat belts.
>>>
>>> Return tray tables to full upright position.
>>>
>>> Stewardesses secure the cabin. Turbulence ahead....
>>>
>>> The captain.
>>>
>>> PS - Where's the big 4phun announcement of Apple News??
>>>
>>> He must be talking to his broker, eh Vic?
>>
>> W.R. Hambrecht reiterates 'Buy" on Apple, ups target price
>> Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 04:29 PM EST
>>
>> W.R. Hambrecht analyst Matthew Kather has reiterated his "Buy" rating
>> on Apple Inc. (AAPL) and raised target price from $203 to $218.
>>
>> In a note to clients today, Kather advises using Apple current drop
>> in price "to patiently accumulate shares" ahead of new products,
>> including the 3G iPhone expected in May-June 2008.
>>
>
> Down another $5.59 on Friday, (another 4%). Down $73.26 in less than
> a month (36%). Apples continues to rtrend negatively against the
> competition. Reports of poor guidance, many "missing" iPhones,
> nothing new in R&D to spur sales, and a drop in US PC marketshare
> ranking. They might be able to recover from one of these conditions,
> but not all four.
>

The investors must have been much less impressed with Macair than the
fanboiz.

Maybe they thought it should have a changeable battery, too!