iPhone Competition

at&t is releasing a touch screen phone mid March, it is the LG-VU or cu920
as at&t will call it. This phone will be so close to an iPhone in features
but so much cheaper AND with a new 2 year contract a much lower price! Here
in Milwaukee authorized dealers have been given word that mid March is the
expected release. In Europe it is called the LG PRADA so Google it for the
details.

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In message <[email protected]> "prc2u"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>at&t is releasing a touch screen phone mid March, it is the LG-VU or cu920
>as at&t will call it. This phone will be so close to an iPhone in features
>but so much cheaper AND with a new 2 year contract a much lower price! Here
>in Milwaukee authorized dealers have been given word that mid March is the
>expected release. In Europe it is called the LG PRADA so Google it for the
>details.

The iPhone isn't about features, price, performance, or anything else.
It's a fashion statement.

"Think Different" (just like everyone else)

DevilsPGD <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> In message <[email protected]> "prc2u"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>at&t is releasing a touch screen phone mid March, it is the LG-VU or
>>cu920 as at&t will call it. This phone will be so close to an iPhone
>>in features but so much cheaper AND with a new 2 year contract a much
>>lower price! Here in Milwaukee authorized dealers have been given
>>word that mid March is the expected release. In Europe it is called
>>the LG PRADA so Google it for the details.
>
> The iPhone isn't about features, price, performance, or anything else.
> It's a fashion statement.
>
> "Think Different" (just like everyone else)
>
some of the reviews are not to good

In article <[email protected]>, DevilsPGD
<[email protected]> wrote:

> The iPhone isn't about features, price, performance, or anything else.
> It's a fashion statement.

That is your narrow opinion. The iPhone has a lot of features and many
that I am interested in. I have not bought it yet since I am convinced
for my use, as I travel a lot on trains and they don't have Wi-Fi on
the trains, is that I need 3G. I have tried it both at stores and also
been able to test the iPhones of friends. It is not a fashion
statement. It has very good features and the internet performance is
great on Wi-Fi. It is not that bad on Edge but I could use a little
more speed.

--
Charles

DevilsPGD <[email protected]> wrote:

> The iPhone isn't about features, price, performance, or anything else.
> It's a fashion statement.

Translation: I can't afford an iPhone ;-)

Seriously, I have not seen one person who owns an iPhone complain about
it. What I see are usually jealous rants from what appear to persons of
high school age that troll these groups.

In article <[email protected]>, anon
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Translation: I can't afford an iPhone ;-)
>
> Seriously, I have not seen one person who owns an iPhone complain about
> it. What I see are usually jealous rants from what appear to persons of
> high school age that troll these groups.

Everyone I know that owns one, and everyone I ask who has one have said
they are very happy with their iPhone.

I don't think it so much that they can't afford the iPhone as that
these groups are infested with trolls who have to have something to
hate.

--
Charles

"anon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> DevilsPGD <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The iPhone isn't about features, price, performance, or anything else.
>> It's a fashion statement.
>
> Translation: I can't afford an iPhone ;-)
>
> Seriously, I have not seen one person who owns an iPhone complain about
> it. What I see are usually jealous rants from what appear to persons of
> high school age that troll these groups.


The return rate is very high. I have a apple store and a AT&T store in town.
The return rate is higher at AT&T then the apple store. Apple charges 20%
return fee.
AT&T gives you 30 days to try with no return fee's.

Was told that the return rate thru AT&T is around 25-30%
Apple company wide is around 20%

Number one reason is battery does not last very long.

"Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote:

> The return rate is very high. I have a apple store and a AT&T store in town.
> The return rate is higher at AT&T then the apple store. Apple charges 20%
> return fee.
> AT&T gives you 30 days to try with no return fee's.
>
> Was told that the return rate thru AT&T is around 25-30%
> Apple company wide is around 20%
>
> Number one reason is battery does not last very long.

Don't mean to be overly suspicious of your post, but could you please
provide a link to this information. Or anything even close to these
claims. A quick google search shows none of the facts in your post to be
true.

In article <[email protected]>, Kevin
Weaver <[email protected]> wrote:

> The return rate is very high. I have a apple store and a AT&T store in town.
> The return rate is higher at AT&T then the apple store. Apple charges 20%
> return fee.
> AT&T gives you 30 days to try with no return fee's.
>
> Was told that the return rate thru AT&T is around 25-30%
> Apple company wide is around 20%
>
> Number one reason is battery does not last very long.

I doubt you have any knowledge of the return rates. Having an Apple
store and an AT&T store in town does not give you that information.

As far as the battery life, none I have talked to who owns one has
complained about the battery life. If they have any complaint it is
that Edge can be slow. None had any regrets about buying the iPhone.

--
Charles

Charles wrote:
>
> I don't think it so much that they can't afford the iPhone as that
> these groups are infested with trolls who have to have something to
> hate.

Well said and right on the money, Charles.


--
Mike

In message <[email protected]> anon
<[email protected]> wrote:

>DevilsPGD <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The iPhone isn't about features, price, performance, or anything else.
>> It's a fashion statement.
>
>Translation: I can't afford an iPhone ;-)

Correct. I just dropped ~$600 on a new phone last month, that uses up
my phone budget for this year. Maybe next year.

I'm a gadget geek. I buy lots of toys, and I gave the iPhone a good
hard look, including purchasing an iPod Touch to get familiar with the
interface and applications included, plus the keyboard and over-all form
factor.

>Seriously, I have not seen one person who owns an iPhone complain about
>it. What I see are usually jealous rants from what appear to persons of
>high school age that troll these groups.

I've seen a few -- I spent last week at a developer's conference down in
Texas, we had seven (I think) attendees with iPhones, no one person was
completely satisfied. Don't get me wrong, most were happy with their
purchases, but I did rather enjoy finding out what features people felt
was missing, and showing that it was either included on my phone, or
could be added (usually without going near a desktop PC)

Most of the complaints were due to a few different issues:

Lack of 3G -- Either for coverage or speed reasons -- The hotel has
very poor GSM coverage, although my TyTN II did seem to have three solid
bars, more then enough for a phone call, even with 3G turned off. The
iPhone guys could TXT, but phone calls were hit and miss. The Razr V3
was also hit and miss for voice (but then, it's several years older)

Lack of GPS -- Which you might not appreciate until someone drops you in
the navigator seat in an unfamiliar country and either aren't willing to
pay for roaming data, or don't have sufficient coverage to download
Google Maps data on demand.

Lack of physical keyboard -- Okay, I went trolling for this one, one of
the guys was crowing over how great the keyboard was, so I suggested we
play "who can type the names of each company and individual attending
the conference the fastest" -- The iPhone was beaten by my TyTN II in
both keyboard mode *and* style-keyboard-on-screen mode, a Treo, and even
an original Razr V3.

Lack of IMAP IDLE -- The iPhone needs to poll for mail every once in a
while, it's not capable of receiving mail pushed out from an arbitrary
IMAP server, only a couple special ones defined by Apple. This can be
important when you're roaming and paying substantial TXT rates, but need
to get a quick "hey, I'm getting a ride in the company truck, don't hold
the shuttle for me" message out.

Lack of any server based contact and calendar synchronization -- SyncML
has been included in every non-smartphone I've owned in many years, and
is a software add-on to every smartphone I've owned or used. Now sure,
you could hack the iPhone and add SyncML... In fact, one guy did:

A full half of the phones were SIM unlocked and/or application unlocked.
In fact, during the conference 1.1.4 hit, one attendee ended up bricking
his hacked iPhone (he says he didn't intend to update, clicked the wrong
button or something)

Don't get me wrong, the iPhone does have a pretty decent browser (better
then any other portable device I've used), a decent form factor, and
despite being rather minimalist in terms of configirability, it's not a
bad interface. However, it's not exactly a cheap phone at $399 with a
two year contract it actually comes in more expense with less features
then the AT&T TILT ($299.99 on a two year contract, after mail-in
rebate)

"prc2u" <[email protected]> wrote in news:47ca5223$0$4972
[email protected]:

> This phone will be so close to an iPhone in features

Well, it has cleverly concealed buttons iPhone doesn't

But, it looks more like a Sellphone in functionality after watching the
videos. It does Sellphone things so they can rent it to you, by the month.

Just like Iphone, it has no storage cards, no programs to install, only
what a Sellphone company downloads to you.

No thanks.....I have a ROKR Z6m SELLphone, already....

"anon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The return rate is very high. I have a apple store and a AT&T store in
>> town.
>> The return rate is higher at AT&T then the apple store. Apple charges 20%
>> return fee.
>> AT&T gives you 30 days to try with no return fee's.
>>
>> Was told that the return rate thru AT&T is around 25-30%
>> Apple company wide is around 20%
>>
>> Number one reason is battery does not last very long.
>
> Don't mean to be overly suspicious of your post, but could you please
> provide a link to this information. Or anything even close to these
> claims. A quick google search shows none of the facts in your post to be
> true.


It was told to me thru the employee's. Was in a apple store when a person
brought back a iphone. I asked the guy why it was being returned. She said
battery life. Then went on to say that was the number 1 reason they return
it.

The other was from the AT&T Store. A friend works there. He was the one that
gave me the number's. Google iphone battery life. A lot of unhappy buyers
out there.

Charles <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
news:020320081249586768%[email protected]:

> In article <[email protected]>, Kevin
> Weaver <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The return rate is very high. I have a apple store and a AT&T store
>> in town. The return rate is higher at AT&T then the apple store.
>> Apple charges 20% return fee.
>> AT&T gives you 30 days to try with no return fee's.
>>
>> Was told that the return rate thru AT&T is around 25-30%
>> Apple company wide is around 20%
>>
>> Number one reason is battery does not last very long.
>
> I doubt you have any knowledge of the return rates. Having an Apple
> store and an AT&T store in town does not give you that information.
>
> As far as the battery life, none I have talked to who owns one has
> complained about the battery life. If they have any complaint it is
> that Edge can be slow. None had any regrets about buying the iPhone.
>

So, you feel the need to discredit the personal knowledge of someone who
has negative things to say about the iPhone, but then feel free to
"enlighten" us with your own unsubstantiated opinion?

Interesting.

>
> The iPhone isn't about features, price, performance, or anything else.
> It's a fashion statement.
>
> "Think Different" (just like everyone else)

And Prada isn't?