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  1. #1
    iPhone News
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    Based on checks at both American and German Apple retail locations,
    Apple seems to be experiencing a widespread shortage of 16 gigabyte
    model iPhones. Apple's web site seems to confirm this, as the online
    store currently lists a five to seven day shipping time on the 16
    gigabyte model.

    According to iFun, T-Mobile Germany is not currently offering the 16
    gigabyte version and company representatives have estimated that the
    shortage may last until May.

    Separate checks on the availability of the 32 gigabyte iPod touch models
    showed the unit to be widely available and suggest that the shortage of
    16 gigabyte model iPhones is attributable to high demand.



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  2. #2
    The Bob
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    Re: 16GB iPhone demand causing shortage

    iPhone News <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    news:[email protected]:

    > Based on checks at both American and German Apple retail locations,
    > Apple seems to be experiencing a widespread shortage of 16 gigabyte
    > model iPhones. Apple's web site seems to confirm this, as the online
    > store currently lists a five to seven day shipping time on the 16
    > gigabyte model.
    >
    > According to iFun, T-Mobile Germany is not currently offering the 16
    > gigabyte version and company representatives have estimated that the
    > shortage may last until May.
    >
    > Separate checks on the availability of the 32 gigabyte iPod touch models
    > showed the unit to be widely available and suggest that the shortage of
    > 16 gigabyte model iPhones is attributable to high demand.
    >


    Sounds like production problems to me. There certainly aren't thousands of
    customers banging down the doors to get one.



  3. #3
    Larry
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    Re: 16GB iPhone demand causing shortage

    iPhone News <[email protected]> wrote in news:invalid-
    [email protected]:

    > Separate checks on the availability of the 32 gigabyte iPod touch models
    > showed the unit to be widely available and suggest that the shortage of
    > 16 gigabyte model iPhones is attributable to high demand.
    >
    >


    They're all getting ready for the OSX bloatware Apple has promised from the
    3rd party developers paying for the priviledge. All those graphic toys
    gotta be stored "somewhere"....now on the most expensive non-volatile
    memory on Earth.

    16GB SDHC Class 6 Turbo memory is $59 at Newegg.com last week:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820211245
    .....simply unbelievable. That's only half a tank of gas in a Hummer.

    The movie and music selection list on the 32GB Nokia N800 Linux tablet has
    grown exponentially....(c; The two 8GB cards are loaded with more in my
    carrying case. I don't have to discard my memory investment just because
    of an upgrade. It even hot swaps!

    I wonder how many terabytes of still usable iPhone memory will go to the
    landfill because of this marketing trick of ever-expanding memory versions
    sold in little pieces...?? If it only had a simple card slot you wouldn't
    have to throw this commodity in the trash.

    I'd be very interested to look at an iPhone PC board original and new to
    see if the old version had an extra, unused location for more memory. That
    would make sense as it would save them from redesigning a new board just to
    satisfy the marketing trickery. 4GB has 1 chip, 8GB - 2, 16GB - 3, 32GB -
    4. Make the boards with 4 surface mount lands but only populate what
    they'll pay for. Are there any blank spaces on the original iPhone boards?
    If so, the OS should be able to detect simply adding more chips....or
    replacing the 4GB chips with 8GB chips or 16 GB chips if there's only 2.
    32GB is probably the limit of the 16-bit motherboard.




  4. #4
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: 16GB iPhone demand causing shortage

    The Bob <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > Sounds like production problems to me. There certainly aren't
    > thousands of customers banging down the doors to get one.
    >
    >


    Naw, it's the same iPhone. They either had blank spaces for more memory
    not populated on the original, or have swapped the 4GB chips for 8GB or
    16GB chips. The difference between the old and new is just which memory
    chips are soldered onto the board where you cannot change them or upgrade
    them.

    They shoulda been STANDARD card slots. But, then a memory upgrade scam
    wouldn't cost each customer $500, would it?....(c;

    No Glitzies want to be caught dead with an "old" 4GB or 8GB, now obsolete
    iPHone. How horrible! The shame on the family and all.... They'll all
    "upgrade" and buy a new one, right?

    3 months from now, we'll be dumping the 16-bit iPhones for the 32-bit
    iPhones. Six months away those will be dumped into the landfill when Apple
    comes out with the 32-bit 3G iPhone. It's a bloatware progression....

    They're gonna need lots more memory to store the bloatware graphics for the
    3rd party developers. Check out the size of the memory used in a brand
    new, unloaded Mac Air notebook. It's OSX, too, you know...






  5. #5
    4phun
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    Re: 16GB iPhone demand causing shortage

    On Mar 16, 11:55*am, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
    > The Bob <[email protected]> wrote innews:[email protected]:
    >
    > > Sounds like production problems to me. *There certainly aren't
    > > thousands of customers banging down the doors to get one.

    >
    > Naw, it's the same iPhone. *They either had blank spaces for more memory
    > not populated on the original, or have swapped the 4GB chips for 8GB or
    > 16GB chips. *The difference between the old and new is just which memory
    > chips are soldered onto the board where you cannot change them or upgrade
    > them.
    >
    > They shoulda been STANDARD card slots. *But, then a memory upgrade scam
    > wouldn't cost each customer $500, would it?....(c;
    >
    > No Glitzies want to be caught dead with an "old" 4GB or 8GB, now obsolete
    > iPHone. *How horrible! *The shame on the family and all.... *They'll all
    > "upgrade" and buy a new one, right?
    >
    > 3 months from now, we'll be dumping the 16-bit iPhones for the 32-bit
    > iPhones. *Six months away those will be dumped into the landfill when Apple
    > comes out with the 32-bit 3G iPhone. *It's a bloatware progression....
    >
    > They're gonna need lots more memory to store the bloatware graphics for the
    > 3rd party developers. *Check out the size of the memory used in a brand
    > new, unloaded Mac Air notebook. *It's OSX, too, you know...


    No one will ever dump the iPhone. They would make an excellent GO
    Phone in the AT&T lineup and as so the demad will remain high even
    when they are obsolete.



  6. #6
    Mike Jacoubowsky
    Guest

    Re: 16GB iPhone demand causing shortage

    > Sounds like production problems to me. There certainly aren't thousands
    > of
    > customers banging down the doors to get one.


    A 5-7 day backlog sounds like extraordinary inventory & production
    management to me. If you've got a really hot product, and can keep the delay
    manageable, you probably enhance, rather than detract from, its popularity.
    You can't keep that sort of thing up very long, but most are going to be
    hang in there for that 5-7 days, and the anticipation is going to get them
    all the more excited about the product. Plus you get all the news stories
    about it being such a hot product that you can't keep it in stock.

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA


    "The Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > iPhone News <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    > news:[email protected]:
    >
    >> Based on checks at both American and German Apple retail locations,
    >> Apple seems to be experiencing a widespread shortage of 16 gigabyte
    >> model iPhones. Apple's web site seems to confirm this, as the online
    >> store currently lists a five to seven day shipping time on the 16
    >> gigabyte model.
    >>
    >> According to iFun, T-Mobile Germany is not currently offering the 16
    >> gigabyte version and company representatives have estimated that the
    >> shortage may last until May.
    >>
    >> Separate checks on the availability of the 32 gigabyte iPod touch models
    >> showed the unit to be widely available and suggest that the shortage of
    >> 16 gigabyte model iPhones is attributable to high demand.
    >>

    >
    > Sounds like production problems to me. There certainly aren't thousands
    > of
    > customers banging down the doors to get one.






  7. #7
    Anybody
    Guest

    Re: 16GB iPhone demand causing shortage

    In article <[email protected]>, The Bob
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> amazed us all with the
    > following in news:[email protected]:
    >
    > >> Sounds like production problems to me. There certainly aren't
    > >> thousands of
    > >> customers banging down the doors to get one.

    > >
    > > A 5-7 day backlog sounds like extraordinary inventory & production
    > > management to me. If you've got a really hot product, and can keep the
    > > delay manageable, you probably enhance, rather than detract from, its
    > > popularity. You can't keep that sort of thing up very long, but most
    > > are going to be hang in there for that 5-7 days, and the anticipation
    > > is going to get them all the more excited about the product. Plus you
    > > get all the news stories about it being such a hot product that you
    > > can't keep it in stock.

    >
    > A great inventory and production environment, for sure. The problem is tht
    > Apple doesn't make money from that aspect of the company. And while
    > Inventory and production people are cheering all over the globe,
    > salespeople are selling a fraction of what they would with inventory in
    > stock.
    >
    > This inventory pattern is far from new in the business world. It gerenally
    > resides with products whose relevence in their market has waned. Products
    > that a company is not confident enough in to have ample inventory on hand
    > to sell.
    >
    > Someone telling 5-7 days in today's market has just lost my complete
    > interest in their product. I can go down the road and find a perfectly
    > acceptable replacement phone that functions better for half the cost. I
    > might have to give up a few useless bells and whistles, but that's the way
    > the market is these days.
    >
    > If you can't satisfy this culture's need for immediate gratification, you
    > become dispoable as an option real quick.


    It's extremely difficult to judge demand for a brand new product.

    With the release of the Star Wars Episode I, there were a number of
    companies that almost went, or did go, bankrupt simply because they
    badly over-estimated the demand for licensed products.

    There are of course people who will go elsewhere, but there are also
    those who are wiling to wait for the better quality product (in their
    opinion), and even some who will consider a waiting list the proof of a
    better product. Hence the waiting lists for high-end cars like Ferrari
    .... hell, there are people putting their names on the waiting list for
    the new Fiat 500.



  8. #8
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: 16GB iPhone demand causing shortage

    "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > A 5-7 day backlog sounds like extraordinary inventory & production
    > management to me. If you've got a really hot product, and can keep the
    > delay manageable, you probably enhance, rather than detract from, its
    > popularity. You can't keep that sort of thing up very long, but most
    > are going to be hang in there for that 5-7 days, and the anticipation
    > is going to get them all the more excited about the product. Plus you
    > get all the news stories about it being such a hot product that you
    > can't keep it in stock.
    >
    >


    If you "create" a shortage on your hot product, they'll stand in line for
    hours to pay full retail much longer before you have to start the price
    cutting to keep the cashflow up. The car companies have played this game
    for years. The little Smart Car is about to be introduced, finally, into
    the USA. They are hyping the hell out of its short supply, even though the
    cars are old in Europe and Asia and have been around for years. There are
    waiting lists, just like there were for the BMW Mini a few years ago.

    It's an old game. Apple is a prime player since the Apple II.




  9. #9
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: 16GB iPhone demand causing shortage

    Anybody <[email protected]> wrote in news:170320081833367072%
    [email protected]:

    > ... hell, there are people putting their names on the waiting list for
    > the new Fiat 500.
    >
    >


    Hope it runs better than the original I had. It was a PoS!




  10. #10
    Wayne Newton
    Guest

    Re: 16GB iPhone demand causing shortage

    Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

    > It's an old game. Apple is a prime player since the Apple II.


    Balderdash. I have owned Apple computers some 1984 and have NEVER had to
    wait for any type of false shortage. You sir are just flat out lying.



  11. #11
    Kurt
    Guest

    Re: 16GB iPhone demand causing shortage

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Wayne Newton <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > It's an old game. Apple is a prime player since the Apple II.

    >
    > Balderdash. I have owned Apple computers some 1984 and have NEVER had to
    > wait for any type of false shortage. You sir are just flat out lying.


    I agree with as I've been much the same. Safe to say that most of the
    posters here hadn't even been born in '84. :-)

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  12. #12
    The Bob
    Guest

    Re: 16GB iPhone demand causing shortage

    Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    news:[email protected]:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Wayne Newton <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >> > It's an old game. Apple is a prime player since the Apple II.

    >>
    >> Balderdash. I have owned Apple computers some 1984 and have NEVER had
    >> to wait for any type of false shortage. You sir are just flat out
    >> lying.

    >
    > I agree with as I've been much the same. Safe to say that most of the
    > posters here hadn't even been born in '84. :-)
    >


    I was out of college and programming on Apples by '84.



  13. #13
    Kurt
    Guest

    Re: 16GB iPhone demand causing shortage

    In article <[email protected]>,
    The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    > news:[email protected]:
    >
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > Wayne Newton <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > >> Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >> > It's an old game. Apple is a prime player since the Apple II.
    > >>
    > >> Balderdash. I have owned Apple computers some 1984 and have NEVER had
    > >> to wait for any type of false shortage. You sir are just flat out
    > >> lying.

    > >
    > > I agree with as I've been much the same. Safe to say that most of the
    > > posters here hadn't even been born in '84. :-)
    > >

    >
    > I was out of college and programming on Apples by '84.


    Little earlier for me, but no programming. :-)

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  14. #14
    Anybody
    Guest

    Re: 16GB iPhone demand causing shortage

    Kurt <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    news:[email protected]:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Wayne Newton <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >
    > > > It's an old game. Apple is a prime player since the Apple II.

    > >
    > > Balderdash. I have owned Apple computers some 1984 and have NEVER had
    > > to wait for any type of false shortage. You sir are just flat out
    > > lying.

    >
    > I agree with as I've been much the same. Safe to say that most of the
    > posters here hadn't even been born in '84. :-)


    I have to agree too. I've been using Apple since the Apple ][ days as
    well and the only Apple equipment I've ever had a waiting period for
    was the very first Intel iMacs. One of our older iMacs had been stolen
    and there were none available as a replacement (at least according to
    the supplier we had to use), so we had to wait a little while for the
    release of the of the new model.



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