Questions For The iPhone Experts

I have a Moto RAZR2 which does 3G nicely but has limited functionality
otherwise. I also have a Nokia N82 which does everything else but no 3G. The
next gen iPhone sounds interesting and I might get one just for fun, but I
don't know much about them. I've read the battery is not user replaceable.
That's one for the minus column. What about the SIM card? Right now, I can
swap it out between my Moto and Nokia. What's the deal with the iPhone? I
have an unlimited data plan now and it would be one for the plus column if I
can just pop in my SIM and keep my current plan. The GPS is another
question. Right now Garmin XT does it all in my Nokia with no usage fees. If
the iPhone GPS works only with network charges, that would be a deal
breaker.

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The iPhone has it's own special data plan. The new 3G plan, Is anyone's
guess right now how it's going to work as it's not out yet.

Same for the GPS Plan as above. Not out yet to see if there going to inc it
with your data plan or sell you a GPS Data plan.

Calling ATT for any info will get you no info as there not giving out any
info till it's out.

"Ric" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>I have a Moto RAZR2 which does 3G nicely but has limited functionality
>otherwise. I also have a Nokia N82 which does everything else but no 3G.
>The next gen iPhone sounds interesting and I might get one just for fun,
>but I don't know much about them. I've read the battery is not user
>replaceable. That's one for the minus column. What about the SIM card?
>Right now, I can swap it out between my Moto and Nokia. What's the deal
>with the iPhone? I have an unlimited data plan now and it would be one for
>the plus column if I can just pop in my SIM and keep my current plan. The
>GPS is another question. Right now Garmin XT does it all in my Nokia with
>no usage fees. If the iPhone GPS works only with network charges, that
>would be a deal breaker.
>

"Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The iPhone has it's own special data plan. The new 3G plan, Is anyone's
> guess right now how it's going to work as it's not out yet.

Based on the design of the previous iPhone, can a SIM from another phone be
inserted? I once had a very cheap data plan and when I bought a Treo, ATT
tried to convince me to give it up because it wasn't intended for PDA phones
which, I assume, would encourage longer surfing sessions. They had no way of
forcing me to give it up for a more expensive plan and it worked just fine
on the Treo.

On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:11:07 -0400, "Ric" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> The iPhone has it's own special data plan. The new 3G plan, Is anyone's
>> guess right now how it's going to work as it's not out yet.
>
>Based on the design of the previous iPhone, can a SIM from another phone be
>inserted? I once had a very cheap data plan and when I bought a Treo, ATT
>tried to convince me to give it up because it wasn't intended for PDA phones
>which, I assume, would encourage longer surfing sessions. They had no way of
>forcing me to give it up for a more expensive plan and it worked just fine
>on the Treo.
>

You can insert any SIM but it wont work.

> You can insert any SIM but it wont work.

That sounds odd. What makes the iPhone different from any other GSM phone
with regards to the SIM?

No

It has to be activated thru iTunes 1st.

"Ric" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> The iPhone has it's own special data plan. The new 3G plan, Is anyone's
>> guess right now how it's going to work as it's not out yet.
>
> Based on the design of the previous iPhone, can a SIM from another phone
> be inserted? I once had a very cheap data plan and when I bought a Treo,
> ATT tried to convince me to give it up because it wasn't intended for PDA
> phones which, I assume, would encourage longer surfing sessions. They had
> no way of forcing me to give it up for a more expensive plan and it worked
> just fine on the Treo.
>

On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:25:55 -0400, "Ric" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I have a Moto RAZR2 which does 3G nicely but has limited functionality
>otherwise. I also have a Nokia N82 which does everything else but no 3G. The
>next gen iPhone sounds interesting and I might get one just for fun, but I
>don't know much about them. I've read the battery is not user replaceable.
>That's one for the minus column. What about the SIM card? Right now, I can
>swap it out between my Moto and Nokia. What's the deal with the iPhone?

Troll - you asked this last week and were answered.

Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Ron said:

> On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:25:55 -0400, "Ric" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I have a Moto RAZR2 which does 3G nicely but has limited functionality
> Troll - you asked this last week and were answered.

The message you responded to was a week old. Maybe the same message?

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"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:25:55 -0400, "Ric" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I have a Moto RAZR2 which does 3G nicely but has limited functionality
>>otherwise. I also have a Nokia N82 which does everything else but no 3G.
>>The
>>next gen iPhone sounds interesting and I might get one just for fun, but I
>>don't know much about them. I've read the battery is not user replaceable.
>>That's one for the minus column. What about the SIM card? Right now, I can
>>swap it out between my Moto and Nokia. What's the deal with the iPhone?
>
> Troll - you asked this last week and were answered.

It was a follow up; asshole because the answer I got was wrong. I was told
there was no way to swap out the SIM on an iPhone. After doing some more
research, I see that can be done with a paper clip. The question was can the
same thing be done with 2.0

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:08:54 -0400, "Ric" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:25:55 -0400, "Ric" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I have a Moto RAZR2 which does 3G nicely but has limited functionality
>>>otherwise. I also have a Nokia N82 which does everything else but no 3G.
>>>The
>>>next gen iPhone sounds interesting and I might get one just for fun, but I
>>>don't know much about them. I've read the battery is not user replaceable.
>>>That's one for the minus column. What about the SIM card? Right now, I can
>>>swap it out between my Moto and Nokia. What's the deal with the iPhone?
>>
>> Troll - you asked this last week and were answered.
>
>It was a follow up; asshole because the answer I got was wrong. I was told
>there was no way to swap out the SIM on an iPhone. After doing some more
>research, I see that can be done with a paper clip. The question was can the
>same thing be done with 2.0
>

Fine, but you cant take any old sim drop it in an iPhone and have it
work - TROLL, and you know that

"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:08:54 -0400, "Ric" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:25:55 -0400, "Ric" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have a Moto RAZR2 which does 3G nicely but has limited functionality
>>>>otherwise. I also have a Nokia N82 which does everything else but no 3G.
>>>>The
>>>>next gen iPhone sounds interesting and I might get one just for fun, but
>>>>I
>>>>don't know much about them. I've read the battery is not user
>>>>replaceable.
>>>>That's one for the minus column. What about the SIM card? Right now, I
>>>>can
>>>>swap it out between my Moto and Nokia. What's the deal with the iPhone?
>>>
>>> Troll - you asked this last week and were answered.
>>
>>It was a follow up; asshole because the answer I got was wrong. I was told
>>there was no way to swap out the SIM on an iPhone. After doing some more
>>research, I see that can be done with a paper clip. The question was can
>>the
>>same thing be done with 2.0
>>
>
> Fine, but you cant take any old sim drop it in an iPhone and have it
> work - TROLL, and you know that

That's why I'm looking for info on the hacks that will allow it;
moron....you do know the hack is out there don't you? It will let you do
precisely that. I mean, you're such an expert and all. I'm simply asking
anyone who knows if the same SIM card tray exists on the 2.0...if you don't
know, let someone who does answer the question.

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:23:48 -0400, "Ric" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:08:54 -0400, "Ric" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:25:55 -0400, "Ric" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I have a Moto RAZR2 which does 3G nicely but has limited functionality
>>>>>otherwise. I also have a Nokia N82 which does everything else but no 3G.
>>>>>The
>>>>>next gen iPhone sounds interesting and I might get one just for fun, but
>>>>>I
>>>>>don't know much about them. I've read the battery is not user
>>>>>replaceable.
>>>>>That's one for the minus column. What about the SIM card? Right now, I
>>>>>can
>>>>>swap it out between my Moto and Nokia. What's the deal with the iPhone?
>>>>
>>>> Troll - you asked this last week and were answered.
>>>
>>>It was a follow up; asshole because the answer I got was wrong. I was told
>>>there was no way to swap out the SIM on an iPhone. After doing some more
>>>research, I see that can be done with a paper clip. The question was can
>>>the
>>>same thing be done with 2.0
>>>
>>
>> Fine, but you cant take any old sim drop it in an iPhone and have it
>> work - TROLL, and you know that
>
>That's why I'm looking for info on the hacks that will allow it;
>moron....you do know the hack is out there don't you? It will let you do
>precisely that. I mean, you're such an expert and all. I'm simply asking
>anyone who knows if the same SIM card tray exists on the 2.0...if you don't
>know, let someone who does answer the question.
>


Any hack will render an iPhone into a Brick comes the next upgrade,
and iPhone 2.0 upgrade coming in a month for free is the most
significant one.

If the iP{hone doesnt do all the things you want then leave it be,
rather than TROLLing here and using childish insulting language.

In article <[email protected]>, Ric <[email protected]> wrote:

> That's why I'm looking for info on the hacks that will allow it;
> moron....you do know the hack is out there don't you? It will let you do
> precisely that. I mean, you're such an expert and all. I'm simply asking
> anyone who knows if the same SIM card tray exists on the 2.0...if you don't
> know, let someone who does answer the question.

it can, and the new iphone even comes with a sim ejector tool, whereas
the original iphone required a paper clip.

From the picture I saw of it, It's in the same location.

"Ric" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:08:54 -0400, "Ric" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Ron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:25:55 -0400, "Ric" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I have a Moto RAZR2 which does 3G nicely but has limited functionality
>>>>>otherwise. I also have a Nokia N82 which does everything else but no
>>>>>3G.
>>>>>The
>>>>>next gen iPhone sounds interesting and I might get one just for fun,
>>>>>but I
>>>>>don't know much about them. I've read the battery is not user
>>>>>replaceable.
>>>>>That's one for the minus column. What about the SIM card? Right now, I
>>>>>can
>>>>>swap it out between my Moto and Nokia. What's the deal with the iPhone?
>>>>
>>>> Troll - you asked this last week and were answered.
>>>
>>>It was a follow up; asshole because the answer I got was wrong. I was
>>>told
>>>there was no way to swap out the SIM on an iPhone. After doing some more
>>>research, I see that can be done with a paper clip. The question was can
>>>the
>>>same thing be done with 2.0
>>>
>>
>> Fine, but you cant take any old sim drop it in an iPhone and have it
>> work - TROLL, and you know that
>
> That's why I'm looking for info on the hacks that will allow it;
> moron....you do know the hack is out there don't you? It will let you do
> precisely that. I mean, you're such an expert and all. I'm simply asking
> anyone who knows if the same SIM card tray exists on the 2.0...if you
> don't know, let someone who does answer the question.
>

>
> If the iP{hone doesnt do all the things you want then leave it be,
> rather than TROLLing here and using childish insulting language.


Who was the first, in this exchange, throw a pejorative?