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David Moyer <[email protected]> wrote in news:meetme-5790EE.15120309062008
@news.qwest.net:

> i'm not saying the cards are, but the "people" trying to manage those
> cards are. too much room for error so better to go the full mile and
> have the iphone simply sync all data, movies, songs, etc and recharge
it
> with one simple cable.
>
>

If you can't handle the files on a card, how do you handle the files on a
hard drive?? There's PLENTY of room for error on the hard drive!

The N800's File Manager was specifically designed with users in mind. It
gives them no access, at all, of anything Linux, only their personal
files and folders. The File Manager can't change or delete any system
files, library files, anything that might destroy the tablet, or the
memory it uses, even on the cards.

For that, there's EMELFM2, a dual pane Linux file handler ported to the
Maemo tablets and every Linux/Unix system.
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/emelfm2/
With it, you can just blow it all to hell!.....(c;
But that's not death to a tablet. It just means you have to reinstall
the OS via USB from your WinXP box and the handy tablet burner and
reinstall everything as punishment for screwing up. We do that every
once in a while, anyway, just to clean off the table and start over
anew!....(c;

Xterm is our favorite video game....If you lose, you lose BIGTIME!

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David Moyer <[email protected]> wrote in news:meetme-F681DA.15060409062008
@news.qwest.net:

> your comments seem very uneducated.
>

I'm sorry, Sir, but it is YOU who is uneducated. You need to investigate
the world OUTSIDE of Apple's kiddieware. Educate yourself to new
horizons that don't have training wheels you can't take off on net
appliances you don't control.

I'm no coder, just an informed user. However, I really do appreciate
those much smarter than I who provide me with such wonderful toys and
experiences. I'm a hardware guy, and know enough not to venture too far
into the software guys' domain. But, I have great respect for them.
Without them, the hardware is useless, no matter how fast and brilliantly
it is designed.

I'm no "Nokia Fanboi", either. They happen to have built the neatest
machine AT THE MOMENT, that the software geniuses seem to have "taken a
shine to".

Come take a spin outside the Appleware world. Leave the training wheels
back home. You can't really hurt it, permanently, unless you get so
frustrated you throw it through a window, of course. That's half the
fun!

......and after you buy it, it costs you NOTHING to load it with some of
the coolest stuff on the planet:
http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/
just click the GREEN ARROW to install it. You can mow the lawn next
week...(c;

I saw some new games at the iPhone announcement today. A couple of days
ago, the Linux geniuses brought us this and gave it to us:
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/vgba/
How many games can a Gameboy Advanced play?.....??
Anyone with kids already has the GBA cartridges....

In article <[email protected]>,
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

> If you can't handle the files on a card, how do you handle the files on a
> hard drive?? There's PLENTY of room for error on the hard drive!
>
> The N800's File Manager was specifically designed with users in mind. It
> gives them no access, at all, of anything Linux, only their personal
> files and folders. The File Manager can't change or delete any system
> files, library files, anything that might destroy the tablet, or the
> memory it uses, even on the cards.
>
> For that, there's EMELFM2, a dual pane Linux file handler ported to the
> Maemo tablets and every Linux/Unix system.
> http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/emelfm2/
> With it, you can just blow it all to hell!.....(c;
> But that's not death to a tablet. It just means you have to reinstall
> the OS via USB from your WinXP box and the handy tablet burner and
> reinstall everything as punishment for screwing up. We do that every
> once in a while, anyway, just to clean off the table and start over
> anew!....(c;
>
> Xterm is our favorite video game....If you lose, you lose BIGTIME!

do you even understand how the iphone operates?

ah, you don't deal with files on the hard drive, since iTunes does all
that automatically!

you just choose the software, music, movies you want and click "sync".
done!

very easy, but probably too easy for you to understand.

In article <[email protected]>,
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> If there had been new, improvements, I'm sure we would have heard about
> them, instead of the long string of boring SDK demos.....right?

Yeah...who the heck wants SDK demos at a developer's conference? Oh,
wait...


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--Tim Smith

David Moyer <[email protected]> wrote in news:meetme-0A28EA.16091709062008
@news.qwest.net:

> do you even understand how the iphone operates?
>
> ah, you don't deal with files on the hard drive, since iTunes does all
> that automatically!
>
> you just choose the software, music, movies you want and click "sync".
> done!
>
> very easy, but probably too easy for you to understand.
>
>

Doesn't being controlled by iTunes telling you what you can and can't
watch/listen to even bother you a little?

"Rashputin" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> There's nothing like total control of the customer, especially if
> you
> can convince them of how much better off they are. Jobs must have
> finally gotten around to reading ideas from the automotive industry of
> the 50s. I wonder if he'll read where that led or if he'll just act
> shocked when it goes south? My guess is that he'll do what his
> self-destructive streak always leads him to do and just talk about how
> no one other than himself and a few others really understand the
> product.
>
> This is all funny as hell to see as the Applevolk are the first
> to spew
> hatred at MS for a far lower level of control over the customer.
>
>

That really bothers me that we have this whole, fairly large, group of
previously individual people who seem to accept total control of their
content that doesn't seem to bother them, at all!

I know we've been brainwashing them in public schools to accept total
control, but to meet it face-to-face like this is a terrible shock....

It's as if they're incapable of thinking for themselves, any more.

They won't have any trouble getting them to accept the Verichip injection,
convinced it's in their best interest.

Tim Smith <[email protected]> wrote in news:reply_in_group-
[email protected]:

> Yeah...who the heck wants SDK demos at a developer's conference? Oh,
> wait...
>
>

If developers were the target of that dog and pony show Jobs put on today,
he needs new developers. That show was made for 12 year old middle school
kids, trying to sell them a toy.

I'd like to think the coders were bored to tears, in spite of the cheering
over the most stupid, mundane items everyone else already has....like apps.

Larry wrote:
> Tim Smith <[email protected]> wrote in news:reply_in_group-
> [email protected]:
>
>
>>Yeah...who the heck wants SDK demos at a developer's conference? Oh,
>>wait...
>>
>>
>
>
> If developers were the target of that dog and pony show Jobs put on today,
> he needs new developers. That show was made for 12 year old middle school
> kids, trying to sell them a toy.


B-b-b-b-but, they ARE toys...

News <[email protected]> wrote in
news[email protected]:

>> If developers were the target of that dog and pony show Jobs put on
>> today, he needs new developers. That show was made for 12 year old
>> middle school kids, trying to sell them a toy.
>
>
> B-b-b-b-but, they ARE toys...
>
>

No they're not! Steve Jobs told BUSINESS today that they were a valuable
BUSINESS tool.....in spite of the fact you can't run your company's
software on them.....sort of....

In article <[email protected]>,
"Rashputin" <[email protected]> wrote:

> >
> > ah, you don't deal with files on the hard drive, since iTunes does all
> > that automatically!
> >
> > you just choose the software, music, movies you want and click "sync".
> > done!
> >
> > very easy, but probably too easy for you to understand.
>
> There's nothing like total control of the customer, especially if you
> can convince them of how much better off they are. Jobs must have finally
> gotten around to reading ideas from the automotive industry of the 50s. I
> wonder if he'll read where that led or if he'll just act shocked when it
> goes south? My guess is that he'll do what his self-destructive streak
> always leads him to do and just talk about how no one other than himself and
> a few others really understand the product.
>
> This is all funny as hell to see as the Applevolk are the first to spew
> hatred at MS for a far lower level of control over the customer.

at least with the apple crowd, everyone knows there is no vender lock in
since everything is basically open source and based on open standards.

with windows and nokia, verizon, etc you are pretty much trapped, but
the apple world has always been based on anarchy and free thought. kinda
cool since they also happen to make the best pcs's and cell phones
nowadays.

so it's a win, win if you are smart enough to understand it.

At 09 Jun 2008 14:28:38 -0600 David Moyer wrote:

> you wouldn't want the unreliability of that...

Memory cards are unreliable? A fature Apple doesn't include must be "bad"-
that only can mean one thing: Oxford, you're back! We've missed your
rubbish...


> nah, it was a wonderful keynote, LOTS of new inventions. stuff like the
> pin pointing your friends on google maps with iphones in real time is
> very slick...

Yeah, Apple should notify Boost Mobile that Boost "stole" that "invention"
when Boost offered it four years ago.

> and the whole MobileMe.com stuff is far ahead of anyone in
> the market... watch the tour and you'll start to learn about your future.
>
> http://www.apple.com/mobileme/guidedtour/

And it differs from Google's Cloud stuff and Microsoft's Live and
"Skydrive" in what important ways?


Good to have you back, Ox. Discussing reality was getting a bit dull...

In article <[email protected]>,
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

> Doesn't being controlled by iTunes telling you what you can and can't
> watch/listen to even bother you a little?

itunes plays any common media type, you are talking about the "Store",
which i (and most people) never even use.

learn a little will you?

In article <[email protected]>,
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Are YOU going to give them a HUNDRED DOLLARS PER YEAR for MobileMe?
>
> A HUNDRED DOLLARS?!!
>
> ARE YOU CRAZY?!!

the price is more like $74, not $100!

i've used "MobileMe" for 5 years and it's wonderful, best integrated
service available on any platform.

At 10 Jun 2008 00:05:04 -0600 David Moyer wrote:

> at least with the apple crowd, everyone knows there is no vender lock in
> since everything is basically open source and based on open standards.


So I can legally buy OS X for my home-brew PC? Ask Apple for the source
code of their products under the GNU license scheme?

> with windows and nokia, verizon, etc you are pretty much trapped

Where exactly am I "trapped" with Windows Mobile? Trapped by the variety
of manufacturers building the various devices? Trapped by the free SDK?
The various application distribution methods? The 30,000 available apps?
Yep, it's a claustrophobic platform, alright...

> the apple world has always been based on anarchy and free thought.

How so? It's the vision of one man (who is certainly a visionary, no doubt)
but it's HIS vision- not yours- that makes it a bit more like a cult than
a commune.

> kinda
> cool since they also happen to make the best pcs's and cell phones
> nowadays.

In a model T "any color you want as long as it's black" sort of way, I
guess...


> so it's a win, win if you are smart enough to understand it.

A win for Apple, anyway...

WHY IN A NOKIA GROUP???



"David Moyer" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Are YOU going to give them a HUNDRED DOLLARS PER YEAR for MobileMe?
>>
>> A HUNDRED DOLLARS?!!
>>
>> ARE YOU CRAZY?!!
>
> the price is more like $74, not $100!
>
> i've used "MobileMe" for 5 years and it's wonderful, best integrated
> service available on any platform.