iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!

Oxford wrote:
> Justin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> I'm not taking sides here, please believe me about that. But I
>>> must say that here in NYC, wifi is, if not everywhere, really easy to
>>> find. If I need to use my notebook someplace and can't pick up a
>>> usable signal, I usually need only walk down the block.
>> So, you agree then. It's not available everywhere. You need to go down
>> the block to find some.
>> Even in NYC, a densely packed "advanced area".
>
> don't make me laugh, NYC is a technological backwater, anything on the
> east cost is about 8 years behind the west coast when it comes to
> technology.
>
> NYC "advanced"... what a hoot!

But you claimed that WiFi was *everywhere*. Not just in "advanced"
locations such as your parent's basement.



>
>> This still doesn't talk of the way that it's impossible to roam from one
>> Wifi network to another, either.
>
> nah, you can do it with many basestations, you need to set it up.
> apple's airport's have had it since 2002 or so.

If you need to set something up by definition it doesn't exist.

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Oxford <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in news:apony-
[email protected]:

> Mark Crispin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > use Skype if you want, you have choices.
>> > http://www.fring.com/download/iphone/
>>
>> Fring requires a jailbroken iPhone.
>>
>> The Apple fanboys claim that there isn't any need to jailbreak now that
>> 2.0 is out.
>>
>> They seem to have a difficult time keeping their story straight!
>
> no Mark, it's not a matter of keeping facts straight, it's a matter of
> understanding the iPhone world changed last friday (July 11) and now
> anyone can develop for the iPhone without having to jailbreak the iphone.
>
Anyone? I can post iPhone applications to a website and phones will be
able to d/l them? Without Apple interference?

Steve Sobol <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Just because it IS available doesn't mean the owner of the access
> point or router MEANT it to be available. Frankly, including such AP's
> that are NOT part of a true public network is, IMHO, dishonest. That
> was my original point.
>
>
>

I, certainly, wouldn't want to use up unused bandwidth from any wide open
AP that's going to waste, anyways, as it just sits there.

He can't store it in the fridge to keep the bandwidth from spoiling so he
can use it later.

So, why the religious guilt trip?

"Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Russell - (as in the Russell Index) The #1 pension company - "blue
> collar"...!!??
> Amazon = "blue collar"...!!??
> TMobile = "blue collar"...!!??
> Real, Fluke, Fred Hutch....... well sir, you are certainly one total MORON.

okay, Fluke is technical, all the rest blue collar.

Oxford <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
news:[email protected]:

> "Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Russell - (as in the Russell Index) The #1 pension company - "blue
>> collar"...!!??
>> Amazon = "blue collar"...!!??
>> TMobile = "blue collar"...!!??
>> Real, Fluke, Fred Hutch....... well sir, you are certainly one total
>> MORON.
>
> okay, Fluke is technical, all the rest blue collar.
>

This coming from a minimum wage worker is actually quite funny.

"Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> Hmmm
> http://www.aeanet.org/publications/i...8_overview.asp
> "The leading metro areas by high-tech employment in 2006 were the New
> York Metro Area (316,500), Washington, DC (295,800), San Jose/Silicon
> Valley (225,300), Boston (191,700), and Dallas-Fort Worth (176,000)."
>
>
And..... the next bullet point down...

Seattle led the nation in net tech job creation in 2006, adding 7,800 jobs.

OxTARD is now shown his complete and total ignorance about two cities.

Oxy, what metro area to you want to piss off next (and certainly be mistaken about)?

"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > they, like me, live in more advanced areas... free wifi is everywhere.
>>
>> Hey Oxy - just WHERE is this magical place you refer to?
>> You go on and on about "facts' - here's you opportunity to actually present
>> one.
>>
>> So..... WHERE? Put up or shut up.
>
> the most affluent university town in the midwest, and smallest town in
> the world that has it's own apple store, that's enough info.

No, it's not - it's you dodging a direct question - again.

OxTARD - ZERO facts, as usual.

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Oxford posted:
> no Mark, it's not a matter of keeping facts straight, it's a matter of
> understanding the iPhone world changed last friday (July 11) and now
> anyone can develop for the iPhone without having to jailbreak the iphone.

Anyone could develop for the iPhone before July 11. Nothing changed on
July 11 with regard to thta.

However, without jailbreaking or (since July 11) paying a tax to Apple,
nobody can install what they develop on the iPhone.

> so the "options" have changed and it's going to take you a little while
> to understand it.

The only thing that has changed is that Apple now has an applications
store with half a dozen flashlight programs.

> most all apps that required "jailbraking" are being updated as we speak
> and will have the new versions in a few weeks.

The word is "jailbreaking", not "jailbraking". Look in your dictionary to
find the difference between "break" and "brake". Assuming that you are
literate enough to know how to use a dictionary.

The iTunes store has no Skype. No Finder. No Terminal. No SSH. No
MxTube. No alternative media player. No Installer. No editors. No
interface customizers. And it never will. Apple forbids such programs.

I have 43 applications installed on my jailbroken iPod Touch via
Installer. None of them are available via the iTunes Store.

Only one application has an equivalent: MobileTwitter in Installer vs.
Twittelator in the iTunes Store. However, Twittelator crashes all the
time and/or gives an error message when I try to access my friends'
twitters. MobileTwitter just works. There's another Twitter client in
the iTunes Store, but either I have to pay $10 or be subject to
advertising.

-- Mark --

http://panda.com/mrc
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

George <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Alas, free Wi-Fi is shrinking too. They just shut down the Metro-Fi
> > system in my area last week. Metro-Fi could be a case study in bad
> > marketing and unrealistic expectations.
> >
> > If you know where to go, you can still find free Wi-Fi networks at many
> > restaurants and public areas, but the dream of ubiquitous free Wi-Fi is
> > dead for now.
>
> But wait, didn't "oxford" claim it was a simple matter to convert
> existing analog TV *transmitters* to WiMAX?

we'll see george, the wimax rollout is just getting started... the cards
are now ready for the MacBook / MacBook Pros

http://blogs.computerworld.com/wimax...d_macbook_pros

my area is getting free public wimax, so everyone is gearing up...

"Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > the most affluent university town in the midwest, and smallest town in
> > the world that has it's own apple store, that's enough info.
>
> No, it's not - it's you dodging a direct question - again.

i gave you the facts, but if you aren't smart enough to decipher them,
it's not my problem.

"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> George <[email protected]> wrote:
>snip://blogs.computerworld.com/wimax_option_for_macbook_and_macbook_pros
>
> my area is getting free public wimax, so everyone is gearing up...

Again, what is your area?

The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

> >> They seem to have a difficult time keeping their story straight!
> >
> > no Mark, it's not a matter of keeping facts straight, it's a matter of
> > understanding the iPhone world changed last friday (July 11) and now
> > anyone can develop for the iPhone without having to jailbreak the iphone.
> >
> Anyone? I can post iPhone applications to a website and phones will be
> able to d/l them? Without Apple interference?

yes, just use something like apptapp to install them.

http://arstechnica.com/journals/appl...p-installer-eq
uals-easy-third-party-apps

"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > the most affluent university town in the midwest, and smallest town in
>> > the world that has it's own apple store, that's enough info.
>>
>> No, it's not - it's you dodging a direct question - again.
>
> i gave you the facts, but if you aren't smart enough to decipher them,
> it's not my problem.

No, you dodged the question - and continue to be as obtuse as possible.

And, I was born and raised very close to where you think I'm not "smart enough
to decipher"

And I call bull **** - based on the (actual) facts and personal knowledge.

The median income for a household in the city was $51,056, and the median
income for a family was $65,861. FAR from "most affluent". And, it isn't really a
"University Town" either...

"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > the most affluent university town in the midwest, and smallest town
>> > in
>> > the world that has it's own apple store, that's enough info.
>>
>> No, it's not - it's you dodging a direct question - again.
>
> i gave you the facts, but if you aren't smart enough to decipher them,
> it's not my problem.

Why not just answer the question directly and stop the riddles? I live
in Honolulu, HI right near Koko Head. What city do you live in?

At 14 Jul 2008 19:13:20 -0600 Oxford wrote:

> > Hey Oxy - just WHERE is this magical place you refer to?
> > You go on and on about "facts' - here's you opportunity to actually
present
> > one.
> >
> > So..... WHERE? Put up or shut up.
>
> the most affluent university town in the midwest, and smallest town in
> the world that has it's own apple store, that's enough info.

Hmmm. A "poser." Of the four cities hosting Apple stores in Minnesota,
Roseville has the smallest population, but certainly isn't "affulent" even
by paltry midwestern standards. Edina has a much larger median income, but
has 10,000 more people, so one of Oxy's two factoids are incorrect. (Go
figure...)