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  1. #1
    Oxford
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    well below is the first video of the 3G iphones arriving and being
    locked down at an AT&T store. (those employees are so fired for filming
    that

    http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/10/...-apps-25-free/

    and a bit of a surprise, the Apps store is going to start with 500 Apps.

    USA Today spoke with Steve Jobs about the impending App Store launch
    that is rumored to launch at 9 am PT on Thursday, July 10th.

    Jobs reveals that 500 applications will be launching on Thursday and
    that it is "the biggest launch" of his career. Apps will be available
    from MySpace, Facebook, AOL, eBay, SEGA and many more companies. One
    called Pandora allows you to create custom internet radio stations:

    Pandora is already available on other phones from AT&T and Sprint, for a
    monthly fee. On the iPhone, it is free. That makes it "a credible
    alternative to broadcast (radio)," in part because iPhones can be
    plugged into car stereos, founder Tim Westergren says.

    According to Jobs, at launch, 25% (~125) of the apps will be free while
    90% of the remaining applications will be $9.99 or less. Meanwhile, New
    York Times has a similar article and pinpoints that one third (~166) of
    the apps will be games. A new site called TouchArcade.com is
    specifically covering iPhone and iPod touch gaming and has already
    covered some interesting possibilities.

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...-09-apple-apps
    -store-iphone-ipod_N.htm



    See More: First iPhones Arrive / 500 Apps




  2. #2
    Larry
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    Re: First iPhones Arrive / 500 Apps

    Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in news:apony-EE30ED.00042110072008
    @news.qwest.net:

    > Pandora is already available on other phones from AT&T and Sprint, for a
    > monthly fee. On the iPhone, it is free. That makes it "a credible
    > alternative to broadcast (radio)," in part because iPhones can be
    > plugged into car stereos, founder Tim Westergren says.
    >


    So what? Every computer ALREADY has a radio player/tuner or 50....

    http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/streamtuner/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streamtuner

    It's real old.....

    Why is when FruitFones play catchup with everyone else it creates this huge
    media event like it's something new??




  3. #3
    Carl
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    Re: First iPhones Arrive / 500 Apps


    "Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in news:apony-EE30ED.00042110072008
    > @news.qwest.net:
    >
    >> Pandora is already available on other phones from AT&T and Sprint, for a
    >> monthly fee. On the iPhone, it is free. That makes it "a credible
    >> alternative to broadcast (radio)," in part because iPhones can be
    >> plugged into car stereos, founder Tim Westergren says.
    >>

    >
    > So what? Every computer ALREADY has a radio player/tuner or 50....
    >
    > http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/streamtuner/
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streamtuner
    >
    > It's real old.....
    >
    > Why is when FruitFones play catchup with everyone else it creates this
    > huge
    > media event like it's something new??
    >

    Uh, let me play: Because they're smart at marketing?





  4. #4
    Todd Allcock
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    Re: First iPhones Arrive / 500 Apps


    "Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in news:apony-EE30ED.00042110072008
    > @news.qwest.net:
    >
    >> Pandora is already available on other phones from AT&T and Sprint, for a
    >> monthly fee. On the iPhone, it is free. That makes it "a credible
    >> alternative to broadcast (radio)," in part because iPhones can be
    >> plugged into car stereos, founder Tim Westergren says.
    >>

    >
    > So what? Every computer ALREADY has a radio player/tuner or 50....
    >
    > http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/streamtuner/
    >
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streamtuner
    >
    > It's real old.....
    >
    > Why is when FruitFones play catchup with everyone else it creates this
    > huge
    > media event like it's something new??



    Well, to be fair, Pandora is a bit unique amongst streaming services. It
    allows you to create your own "radio stations" based on artists or songs you
    like, and based on 400 attributes in those songs, it selects other
    songs/artists with similar attributes. You can also "thumbs up" and "thumbs
    down" songs as they play to further refine what kind of music will be
    streamed on that "station" in the future. Far more powerful than simply
    selecting, say, a "60's" station or "Big Band" station. If you like the Rat
    Pack, select Frank, Dino and Sammy as your "seed" artists and that, and
    similar styled music, is all you'll hear.

    Pandora has a mobile distribution contract with AT&T and Sprint, so their
    mobile apps only run on those carriers (although you can listen to Pandora
    on any service with a tethered PC- Pandora uses Flash and is ad-supported in
    the free version, thwarting my attempts to get it to work on my WinMo
    devices regardless of browser I try. I'll have to try remote desktop one of
    these days when I'm bored and see if the RD client on my WinMo phone can
    keep up with 128kb audio streams!)

    A subscription to Pandora on Sprint ($2.99/month) or AT&T ($8.99/month) also
    includes a subscription to the desktop version (which just removes the ad
    banners, and is available for $36/year if you don't buy a mobile
    subscription- there's no difference in music playing for free or paid
    subscribers.)

    This is a heck of a perq for iPhone owners, frankly, and might give Pandora
    a lot more exposure. I suspect the "free" subscription is an experiment-
    Pandora (on the desktop, anyway) has a click-thru system to buy any song you
    hear at Amazon or iTunes, for which Pandora receives a commission. A nice
    big fat "Buy this song on iTunes" button on the iPhone Pandora client might
    generate enough revenue to make this a win-win-win-win for Apple, Pandora,
    AT&T and the customer that doesn't have time to seek out new music on their
    own.

    Give Pandora a try, Larry, and see if your N800 RD client can grab the music
    from your desktop- you might have discovered a new favorite streaming
    source.






  5. #5
    Larry
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    Re: First iPhones Arrive / 500 Apps

    "Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > Well, to be fair, Pandora is a bit unique amongst streaming services.
    > It allows you to create your own "radio stations" based on artists or
    > songs you like, and based on 400 attributes in those songs, it selects
    > other songs/artists with similar attributes. You can also "thumbs up"
    > and "thumbs down" songs as they play to further refine what kind of
    > music will be streamed on that "station" in the future. Far more
    > powerful than simply selecting, say, a "60's" station or "Big Band"
    > station. If you like the Rat Pack, select Frank, Dino and Sammy as
    > your "seed" artists and that, and similar styled music, is all you'll
    > hear.
    >
    >


    OH! You mean like last.fm!

    http://www.last.fm/

    http://vagalume.igalia.com/

    I see....(c;




  6. #6
    Larry
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    Re: First iPhones Arrive / 500 Apps

    "Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > Give Pandora a try, Larry, and see if your N800 RD client can grab the
    > music from your desktop- you might have discovered a new favorite
    > streaming source.
    >
    >
    >


    Hmm....ok.

    http://vagalume.igalia.com/

    http://www.xiph.org/

    http://icecast.org/
    Y'all boys give a listen to the thousand or so channels....

    and it won't cost you a dime!
    http://dir.xiph.org/index.php




  7. #7
    The Bob
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    Re: First iPhones Arrive / 500 Apps

    Oxford <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in news:apony-
    [email protected]:

    > well below is the first video of the 3G iphones arriving and being
    > locked down at an AT&T store. (those employees are so fired for filming
    > that
    >
    > http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/10/...-apps-25-free/
    >
    > and a bit of a surprise, the Apps store is going to start with 500 Apps.
    >


    Wait- you said it would roll with thousands.

    You lied.



  8. #8
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: First iPhones Arrive / 500 Apps

    At 10 Jul 2008 22:21:57 +0000 Larry wrote:

    > > Well, to be fair, Pandora is a bit unique amongst streaming services.
    > > It allows you to create your own "radio stations" based on artists or
    > > songs you like, and based on 400 attributes in those songs, it selects
    > > other songs/artists with similar attributes. You can also "thumbs up"
    > > and "thumbs down" songs as they play to further refine what kind of
    > > music will be streamed on that "station" in the future. Far more
    > > powerful than simply selecting, say, a "60's" station or "Big Band"
    > > station. If you like the Rat Pack, select Frank, Dino and Sammy as
    > > your "seed" artists and that, and similar styled music, is all you'll
    > > hear.
    > >
    > >

    >
    > OH! You mean like last.fm!
    >
    > http://www.last.fm/
    >
    > http://vagalume.igalia.com/
    >
    > I see....(c;


    Yep, more like that! ;-)






  9. #9
    Oxford
    Guest

    Re: First iPhones Arrive / 500 Apps

    The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

    > > http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/10/...-apps-25-free/
    > >
    > > and a bit of a surprise, the Apps store is going to start with 500 Apps.
    > >

    >
    > Wait- you said it would roll with thousands.
    >
    > You lied.


    I didn't "lie", there are thousands, but the App store was limited to
    500 to everyone's surprise.

    Please learn what a "lie" is, since if you can't figure out basic
    vocabulary, you will be plonked.



  10. #10
    Oxford
    Guest

    Re: First iPhones Arrive / 500 Apps

    Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

    > OH! You mean like last.fm!
    >
    > http://www.last.fm/
    >
    > http://vagalume.igalia.com/
    >
    > I see....(c;


    last.fm is already on the iPhone...

    http://dev.c99.org/MobileScrobbler/



  11. #11
    Larry
    Guest

    Re: First iPhones Arrive / 500 Apps

    Craig <[email protected]> wrote in news:Wazdk.10277$LG4.5456
    @nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com:

    > Is it ok, Terms&Conditions-wise, to "jailbreak" an iphone?
    >
    > tia,
    > -Craig
    >
    >


    Some kid online waiting all night in one of the major cities with 3G ATT
    posted to Gizmodo that Iphone One was selling, in the line itself, for
    $50/ea...(c;

    They're trying to talk him out of buying one and getting a 3G....with a
    smaller battery it seems (1150maH vs 1400maH).




  12. #12
    Oxford
    Guest

    Re: First iPhones Arrive / 500 Apps

    Craig <[email protected]> wrote:

    > > http://dev.c99.org/MobileScrobbler/

    >
    > The site says:
    > > requirements
    > >
    > > * A jailbroken iPhone or iPod Touch
    > > * Firmware 1.1.1 or newer
    > > * A last.fm account

    >
    > Is it ok, Terms&Conditions-wise, to "jailbreak" an iphone?


    yeah, saw that later... certainly they or someone will have a similar
    non-jailbrake app in a few days, weeks.



  13. #13
    The Bob
    Guest

    Re: First iPhones Arrive / 500 Apps

    Oxford <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
    news:[email protected]:

    > The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> > http://www.macrumors.com/2008/07/10/...00-apps-25-fre
    >> > e/
    >> >
    >> > and a bit of a surprise, the Apps store is going to start with 500
    >> > Apps.
    >> >

    >>
    >> Wait- you said it would roll with thousands.
    >>
    >> You lied.

    >
    > I didn't "lie", there are thousands, but the App store was limited to
    > 500 to everyone's surprise.
    >
    > Please learn what a "lie" is, since if you can't figure out basic
    > vocabulary, you will be plonked.


    Please do. I love nothing more than to point out your stupidity without
    having to play with the technicalities and mistruths you use to later
    deflect the truth. Need an example? You provide a perfect one above.

    You did say that the 3g iPhone would roll in concert with the app store and
    have the largest application base of any phone on the market (more than
    once). And you based this on an implied insider;s view of the situation.
    If you want me to say that you simply misrepresented your view, fine.
    Misrepresentation is nothing more than a lie.



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