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- 07-10-2008, 08:35 PM #1iPhone NewsGuest
MobileMe's push mail is now active and running. Gizmodo's Jesus Diaz has
the service working with his iPhone running the iPhone 2.0 software, and
is running perfectly. He is now able to get email pushed to his iPhone
in real time, both over Wi-Fi and the cell network.
He was even able to get it to work perfectly while using a SIM from an
unsupported carrier (Vodafone Spain) while in roaming and it worked just
fine. With all of this in place, it will likely be very difficult for
RIM and the Blackberry to keep up, given that Push email has been one of
their main selling points for quite some time.
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- 07-10-2008, 09:12 PM #2CarlGuest
Re: MobileMe push mail now active
iPhone News wrote:
> MobileMe's push mail is now active and running.
>With all of this in place, it will likely be very
> difficult for RIM and the Blackberry to keep up, given that Push
> email has been one of their main selling points for quite some time.
>
Please. Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that MobileMe is
currently $100 per year (not $100 for a one-time purchase, but per year).
Over $8.00 a month additional expense to the user to achieve about the same
thing that the Blackberry does for FREE. How do you figure that RIM has to
keep up?
- 07-10-2008, 09:17 PM #3Todd AllcockGuest
Re: MobileMe push mail now active
At 10 Jul 2008 22:35:23 -0400 iPhone News wrote:
> With all of this in place, it will likely be very difficult for
> RIM and the Blackberry to keep up, given that Push email has been one of
> their main selling points for quite some time.
And once again, you completely misunderstand the Enterprise market. Push e-
mail has been available outside of the Blackberry platform for quite some
time- WinMobile, Symbian, and even dumbphones have had push for years.
The allure of Blackberry for the Enterprise is BES and the reputation for
security it has. "MobileMe," or even EAS, (Exchange over Activesync) isn't
going to change that.
Besides, even assuming the business e-mail features of the iPhone were good
enough for the Enterprise, the biggest stumbling block against mass
adoption by business is their exclusivity with AT&T. I've got nothing
against AT&T personally, (I was a happy Cingular customer for over a
decade,) but businesses tend to choose provider first, based on coverage,
features, and price, and device second. EVERY national carrier offers
Blackberry. ONE offers iPhone.
- 07-10-2008, 09:22 PM #4LarryGuest
Re: MobileMe push mail now active
iPhone News <[email protected]> wrote in news:invalid-
[email protected]:
> RIM and the Blackberry to keep up, given that Push email has been one of
> their main selling points for quite some time.
>
>
RESEARCH IN MOTION
(NasdaqGS: RIMM)
After Hours: 117.40 Up 0.27 (0.23%)7:59PM ET
Investors don't seem to be fleeing in droves at $US117.40/share....
We'll watch the numbers, carefully, tomorrow afternoon....
- 07-10-2008, 09:23 PM #5LarryGuest
Re: MobileMe push mail now active
"Carl" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> iPhone News wrote:
>> MobileMe's push mail is now active and running.
>>With all of this in place, it will likely be very
>> difficult for RIM and the Blackberry to keep up, given that Push
>> email has been one of their main selling points for quite some time.
>>
> Please. Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that MobileMe
> is currently $100 per year (not $100 for a one-time purchase, but per
> year). Over $8.00 a month additional expense to the user to achieve
> about the same thing that the Blackberry does for FREE. How do you
> figure that RIM has to keep up?
>
>
>
>
You would be correct. $100/year, every year, ad nauseum.
FruitFones charge for lots of things other devices do for free....like run
useful apps!
- 07-10-2008, 10:14 PM #6OxfordGuest
Re: MobileMe push mail now active
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> RESEARCH IN MOTION
> (NasdaqGS: RIMM)
>
> After Hours: 117.40 Up 0.27 (0.23%)7:59PM ET
>
> Investors don't seem to be fleeing in droves at $US117.40/share....
>
> We'll watch the numbers, carefully, tomorrow afternoon....
oh larry, what are we going to do with you?
RIMM has dropped like a rock since the iPhone 2.0 was announced about 1
month ago.
RIMM has gone from 135 to 117... a drop of about 15.5%
and you posted "after hours" data, but in today's regular trading, RIMM
was down 0.41
while Apple was up, 2.38, and up another 1.11 in AH.
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- 07-10-2008, 10:17 PM #7OxfordGuest
Re: MobileMe push mail now active
"Carl" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Please. Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that MobileMe is
> currently $100 per year (not $100 for a one-time purchase, but per year).
> Over $8.00 a month additional expense to the user to achieve about the same
> thing that the Blackberry does for FREE. How do you figure that RIM has to
> keep up?
MobileMe is around $75-$80 a year (ongoing) $99 is just the list price.
http://www.powermax.com/parts/show/n40073?src=g
- 07-10-2008, 10:25 PM #8Kevin WeaverGuest
Re: MobileMe push mail now active
And in the past month it's down 10.00 a share.
What did the iPhone 2.0 do for apple to let there stock drop 10.00 a share
in the past month ?
"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> RESEARCH IN MOTION
>> (NasdaqGS: RIMM)
>>
>> After Hours: 117.40 Up 0.27 (0.23%)7:59PM ET
>>
>> Investors don't seem to be fleeing in droves at $US117.40/share....
>>
>> We'll watch the numbers, carefully, tomorrow afternoon....
>
> oh larry, what are we going to do with you?
>
> RIMM has dropped like a rock since the iPhone 2.0 was announced about 1
> month ago.
>
> RIMM has gone from 135 to 117... a drop of about 15.5%
>
>
> and you posted "after hours" data, but in today's regular trading, RIMM
> was down 0.41
>
> while Apple was up, 2.38, and up another 1.11 in AH.
>
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- 07-10-2008, 10:50 PM #9OxfordGuest
Re: MobileMe push mail now active
The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Please. Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that
> >> MobileMe is currently $100 per year (not $100 for a one-time
> >> purchase, but per year). Over $8.00 a month additional expense to the
> >> user to achieve about the same thing that the Blackberry does for
> >> FREE. How do you figure that RIM has to keep up?
> >
> > MobileMe is around $75-$80 a year (ongoing) $99 is just the list
> > price.
> >
> > http://www.powermax.com/parts/show/n40073?src=g
> >
>
> Answer the question posed, Oxtard. RIM offers the same functionality for
> free? How are they 'catching up'?
RIM doesn't offer anything even close to .Mac or now called "MoblieMe".
MobileMe allows you to build and host custom websites via iWeb, it
allows you to have a remote Hard Drive mount on any PC or Mac, it ties
into your photo database with iPhoto, allows you to publish streaming
movies, it's a push email service of course, allows you to see and work
with your remote machines in realtime, manages / syncs all passwords on
all apps on all of your machines. syncs dashboard and bookmarks across
all machines. publish private and public Calendars, share address books
of course, on and on and on... do you even own a Mac? Guess not...
What RIM does is just a small subset of .Mac or MobileMe.
If you just want what RIM does, then sure, there are plenty of free
services for that. but nobody offers internet services as sophisticated
as MobleMe.
http://www.apple.com/mobileme/features/mac.html
- 07-10-2008, 10:52 PM #10OxfordGuest
Re: MobileMe push mail now active
"Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote:
> And in the past month it's down 10.00 a share.
>
> What did the iPhone 2.0 do for apple to let there stock drop 10.00 a share
> in the past month ?
no, it's only down 4.60 since the keynote, and much of that drop is
related to SJ's health concerns, and the massive 45 point run up before
the keynote.
apple is outperforming the main market indexes, just as predicted.
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- 07-10-2008, 10:59 PM #11Kevin WeaverGuest
Re: MobileMe push mail now active
Check the 30 day forecast yourself.
"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> And in the past month it's down 10.00 a share.
>>
>> What did the iPhone 2.0 do for apple to let there stock drop 10.00 a
>> share
>> in the past month ?
>
> no, it's only down 4.60 since the keynote, and much of that drop is
> related to SJ's health concerns, and the massive 45 point run up before
> the keynote.
>
> apple is outperforming the main market indexes, just as predicted.
>
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- 07-10-2008, 11:06 PM #12The BobGuest
Re: MobileMe push mail now active
Oxford <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
news:[email protected]:
> The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >> Please. Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that
>> >> MobileMe is currently $100 per year (not $100 for a one-time
>> >> purchase, but per year). Over $8.00 a month additional expense to
>> >> the user to achieve about the same thing that the Blackberry does
>> >> for FREE. How do you figure that RIM has to keep up?
>> >
>> > MobileMe is around $75-$80 a year (ongoing) $99 is just the list
>> > price.
>> >
>> > http://www.powermax.com/parts/show/n40073?src=g
>> >
>>
>> Answer the question posed, Oxtard. RIM offers the same functionality
>> for free? How are they 'catching up'?
>
> RIM doesn't offer anything even close to .Mac or now called
> "MoblieMe".
>
> MobileMe allows you to build and host custom websites via iWeb, it
> allows you to have a remote Hard Drive mount on any PC or Mac, it ties
> into your photo database with iPhoto, allows you to publish streaming
> movies,
But the phone doesn't record videos, so what content would I publish to a
streaming site?
- 07-10-2008, 11:18 PM #13OxfordGuest
Re: MobileMe push mail now active
The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
> > MobileMe allows you to build and host custom websites via iWeb, it
> > allows you to have a remote Hard Drive mount on any PC or Mac, it ties
> > into your photo database with iPhoto, allows you to publish streaming
> > movies,
>
> But the phone doesn't record videos, so what content would I publish to a
> streaming site?
what? then what are all the apps that record video used for?
buzzzzt... wrong.
somebody... insert the name "bob" doesn't know what the heck is going on
with the iphone...
http://www.iphonevideorecorder.com/
http://mytrini-iphone.blogspot.com/2...ecorder-for-ip
hone.html
and many more...
- 07-10-2008, 11:20 PM #14The BobGuest
Re: MobileMe push mail now active
Oxford <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
news:[email protected]:
> The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > MobileMe allows you to build and host custom websites via iWeb, it
>> > allows you to have a remote Hard Drive mount on any PC or Mac, it
>> > ties into your photo database with iPhoto, allows you to publish
>> > streaming movies,
>>
>> But the phone doesn't record videos, so what content would I publish
>> to a streaming site?
>
> what? then what are all the apps that record video used for?
>
> buzzzzt... wrong.
>
> somebody... insert the name "bob" doesn't know what the heck is going
> on with the iphone...
>
> http://www.iphonevideorecorder.com/
>
> http://mytrini-iphone.blogspot.com/2...-recorder-for-
> ip hone.html
>
> and many more...
>
So why PAY to record video when you can do it for free on most other high
end smartphones?
- 07-10-2008, 11:33 PM #15OxfordGuest
Re: MobileMe push mail now active
The Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
> > somebody... insert the name "bob" doesn't know what the heck is going
> > on with the iphone...
> >
> > http://www.iphonevideorecorder.com/
> >
> > http://mytrini-iphone.blogspot.com/2...-recorder-for-
> > ip hone.html
> >
> > and many more...
> >
>
> So why PAY to record video when you can do it for free on most other high
> end smartphones?
you get what you pay for... so if you just want a cheesy little video
recorder like other smartphones have, i'm sure there will be free
versions in a few days...
many developers are waiting on the official release tomorrow at 8am...
i've been using 2.0 all day, and can tell you the world is about to
change for all cell phone makers, i've installed a bit over 40 apps and
they all work much better than i had hoped. the install process is
incredible, just incredible. two taps of your finger and the app
installs itself into the iphone dock, and that's "it"... sweet.
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