Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs

http://www.gearlog.com/2008/07/is_ap...n_iphone_c.php

That number, however, may have, in fact, been exaggerated--a lot. According
to Piper Jaffray's Gene Munster, the number of phones sold over that time
period is probably closer to 425,000. According to the analyst's numbers,
it will likely take Apple around 17 days to actually hit the one million mark.

The discrepancy apparently has to do with the way Apple records its sales,
logging one for both every unit sold in their stores and each one shipped to
wireless carriers, like AT&T, meaning that one million units may be out of
Apple's hands now, but that doesn't necessarily mean that all of them are
in the hands of consumers.

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"Ness-Net" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> http://www.gearlog.com/2008/07/is_ap...n_iphone_c.php
>
> That number, however, may have, in fact, been exaggerated--a lot.
> According to Piper Jaffray's Gene Munster, the number of phones sold over
> that time period is probably closer to 425,000. According to the analyst's
> numbers, it will likely take Apple around 17 days to actually hit the one
> million mark.
> The discrepancy apparently has to do with the way Apple records its sales,
> logging one for both every unit sold in their stores and each one shipped
> to wireless carriers, like AT&T, meaning that one million units may be out
> of Apple's hands now, but that doesn't necessarily mean that all of them
> are in the hands of consumers.

While true, it's also how all phone manufacturers could their sales, so when
Motorola brags they sold their 60 millionth (or whatever) Razr the same rule
applies, so this isn't some number-fluffing trickery that's exclusive to
Apple.

In fact, Apple's numbers are in some ways more "honest" than other
manufacturers, since other manufacturers do not operate retail stores.
Apple doesn't count phones "sold" to their own stores' inventory as sales-
only phones sold at retail, whereas Motorola or Samsung do not operate
retail stores- ever "sale" they report was a wholesale sale to a distributor
or carrier- not to an end-user.

And, frankly, from Apple's (or Nokia's, Motorola's et al's) perspective, the
retail sales (at AT&T stores) don't matter now that the revenue sharing
deals are gone. Apple only gets paid when AT&T buys the product- not when
it's activated.

On 2008-07-16, Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote:

> In fact, Apple's numbers are in some ways more "honest" than other
> manufacturers, since other manufacturers do not operate retail stores.

I don't think there's a difference. Motorola sells their phones online. I
believe Nokia also does.

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At 16 Jul 2008 21:52:48 +0000 Steve Sobol wrote:

> I don't think there's a difference. Motorola sells their phones online. I
> believe Nokia also does.


Fair enough, but in the US carrier-subsidized market, online sales of
either manufacturer have to be negligible compared to Apple's store sales,
which sells subsidized phones on AT& service.

Unless things have changed recently, clicking to buy most Nokia phones from
the Nokia USA site redirected you the "Let's Talk" website and tried to set
you up on a new service plan- precious few Nokia phones on the website are
available direct- just a few unlocked GSM models.

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:45:42 -0600, David Moyer <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend
Over 50 million, that is correct 50 millions blackberry Pearls have
been sold. So Apple, step back, and sit down, and SHUT UP.

> Of course it could also mean that potential customers are waiting for a
> price cut prior to purchasing, waiting for all the early-adopters to both
> pay more and to get any bugs resolved.

It's true, Apple has had a decades-long history of screwing early adopters.
It's always better to wait a few months and let the first round buyers get
screwed.

Bill Kearney wrote:
>> Of course it could also mean that potential customers are waiting for
>> a price cut prior to purchasing, waiting for all the early-adopters to
>> both pay more and to get any bugs resolved.
>
> It's true, Apple has had a decades-long history of screwing early
> adopters. It's always better to wait a few months and let the first
> round buyers get screwed.

Apple is hardly unique in this regard.

Mark Reinhold <[email protected]> wrote:

> >> Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less.
> >
> >you mean Bloomberg mistakenly said 450,000 not 45,000.
> >
> >If they are just counting the US, that's fine but they incorrectly
> >reported the info, the actual number is 1,000,000 and that is what Apple
> >stated since those are the facts.
>
> You are taking Apples word on a Apple product. I bet you believe in
> the Tooth fairy too. ( I think I do)

nah, as a corporation, they can't lie. that's the number, like it or not.

"David Moyer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mark Reinhold <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >> Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less.
>> >
>> >you mean Bloomberg mistakenly said 450,000 not 45,000.
>> >
>> >If they are just counting the US, that's fine but they incorrectly
>> >reported the info, the actual number is 1,000,000 and that is what Apple
>> >stated since those are the facts.
>>
>> You are taking Apples word on a Apple product. I bet you believe in
>> the Tooth fairy too. ( I think I do)
>
> nah, as a corporation, they can't lie. that's the number, like it or not.

Yeah, corporations never lie. Get real!

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:41:29 -0600, David Moyer <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Mark Reinhold <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >> Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less.
>> >
>> >you mean Bloomberg mistakenly said 450,000 not 45,000.
>> >
>> >If they are just counting the US, that's fine but they incorrectly
>> >reported the info, the actual number is 1,000,000 and that is what Apple
>> >stated since those are the facts.
>>
>> You are taking Apples word on a Apple product. I bet you believe in
>> the Tooth fairy too. ( I think I do)
>
>nah, as a corporation, they can't lie. that's the number, like it or not.

Are you for real, Corps dont lie, the check is the mail, I wont cum in
your mouth, ....

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:59:55 -0700 (PDT), 4phun <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Jul 22, 8:21*pm, Mark Reinhold <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:41:29 -0600, David Moyer <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>
>AT&T TAKES MORE SMARTPHONE CUSTOMERS FROM VERIZON AND OTHER TELECOS
>
>In the first twelve days of the iPhone 3G's life, AT&T has shifted
>double the number of iPhones it sold in the same period last year. And
>remember, this is US only, and doesn't take into account the
>international sales. Some of the factors are the same. Both the
>original iPhone launch and this year's 3G launch have been plagued by
>shortages. There has also been a lot of free publicity in the form of
>media buzz, along with the official, understated ad campaign.
>
>MAINSTREAM IS REALLY KICKING IN
>
>The difference is the price. Sure, we know that over the course of a
>two year contract, the higher price for data will make the iPhone 3G
>more expensive than the old one even at the starting price of $200.

However the overwhelming Majority of ATT customers, don't have
iPhones, and have been in a contract less than 21 months, and thus
dont qualify for the $199 price.

And its still not *****ed out that such customers can retain their
current Voice plans. Ask 3 CSRs about that and get 5 different
answers.

4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:2d9dc61b-2eb2-4ce5-bd1d-
[email protected]:

> AT&T TAKES MORE SMARTPHONE CUSTOMERS FROM VERIZON AND OTHER TELECOS
>
> In the first twelve days of the iPhone 3G's life, AT&T has shifted
> double the number of iPhones it sold in the same period last year. And
> remember, this is US only, and doesn't take into account the
> international sales. Some of the factors are the same. Both the
> original iPhone launch and this year's 3G launch have been plagued by
> shortages. There has also been a lot of free publicity in the form of
> media buzz, along with the official, understated ad campaign.
>

God, Vic...don't just parrot what they ****...THINK, man, THINK!

How can iPhone 3G outsell ANYTHING when there are NO IPHONES TO SELL?!

What bullahit....pure bull****.

On Jul 24, 4:06*pm, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> 4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:2d9dc61b-2eb2-4ce5-bd1d-
> [email protected]:
>
> > AT&T TAKES MORE SMARTPHONE CUSTOMERS FROM VERIZON AND OTHER TELECOS
>
> > In the first twelve days of the iPhone 3G's life, AT&T has shifted
> > double the number of iPhones it sold in the same period last year. And
> > remember, this is US only, and doesn't take into account the
> > international sales. Some of the factors are the same. Both the
> > original iPhone launch and this year's 3G launch have been plagued by
> > shortages. There has also been a lot of free publicity in the form of
> > media buzz, along with the official, understated ad campaign.
>
> God, Vic...don't just parrot what they ****...THINK, man, THINK!
>
> How can iPhone 3G outsell ANYTHING when there are NO IPHONES TO SELL?!
>
> What bullahit....pure bull****.

The UK got a massive shipment today, their ship came in?

Within hours just about all the new 16GB BLACK phones were gone but
they have WHITE ones in stock all over at the end of the day in the
UK.

The USA is getting odd shipments all over of a batch of phones at a
time.

Facebook now has a Microsoft application they will let members
download for checking iPhone inventory updated every fifteen minutes
or so.
http://apps.facebook.com/iphonestock/

If you get a 'null' report it is in the middle of a data update or you
are not a member.

Snapshot of the UK inventory at 5:30 PM EDT US below

Black 8GB Black 16GB White 16GB
UK Birmingham Bullring true false true
UK Cambridge Grand Arcade true true true
UK Exeter Princesshay true false true
UK Glasgow Buchanan Street true true true
UK Grays, Essex Lakeside true false true
UK Greenhithe, Kent Bluewater true false true
UK Kingston upon Thames Bentall Centre true false true
UK London Brent Cross true false true
UK London Regent Street true true true
UK Manchester Manchester Arndale true false true
UK Manchester Trafford Centre true false true
UK Milton Keynes Milton Keynes true true true
UK Sheffield Meadowhall true false true
UK Solihull Touchwood Centre true false true
UK Southampton WestQuay true false true

4phun <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
news:[email protected]:

> On Jul 24, 4:06*pm, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:2d9dc61b-2eb2-4ce5-bd1d-
>> [email protected]:
>>
>> > AT&T TAKES MORE SMARTPHONE CUSTOMERS FROM VERIZON AND OTHER TELECOS
>>
>> > In the first twelve days of the iPhone 3G's life, AT&T has shifted
>> > double the number of iPhones it sold in the same period last year.
>> > And remember, this is US only, and doesn't take into account the
>> > international sales. Some of the factors are the same. Both the
>> > original iPhone launch and this year's 3G launch have been plagued
>> > by shortages. There has also been a lot of free publicity in the
>> > form of media buzz, along with the official, understated ad
>> > campaign.
>>
>> God, Vic...don't just parrot what they ****...THINK, man, THINK!
>>
>> How can iPhone 3G outsell ANYTHING when there are NO IPHONES TO
>> SELL?!
>>
>> What bullahit....pure bull****.
>
> The UK got a massive shipment today, their ship came in?

And that affects AT&T just how?

On Jul 24, 5:50*pm, 4phun <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jul 24, 4:06*pm, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> If you get a 'null' report it is in the middle of a data update or you

All reports are now null.

Apple has disabled the data files that allowed the outside world to
view iPhone inventory in near real time after my post.

Too many facebook buffs jumped on it.