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- 08-05-2008, 10:55 AM #1Mike JacoubowskyGuest
Not sure where the best place to post this is, but since it's an ATT iphone, why not?
Can anybody recommend a bluetooth earpiece that does a good job of shielding wind noise from the mic? There are times when I might need to take a call while out riding (a bicycle), and normal bluetooth earpieces just don't work well at all. If the Jawbone would actually do the trick, I'd spend the $$$, but so far I haven't found many references to the Jawbone and wind noise.
Thanks-
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
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- 08-05-2008, 02:32 PM #2Robert A. Fink, M. D.Guest
Re: best bluetooth for wind noise?
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:01:50 -0400, "Bill" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>CNET.com has some reviews of the Jawbone type.
>Others too.
>
>"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:WD%[email protected]...
>Not sure where the best place to post this is, but since it's an ATT iphone,
>why not?
>
>Can anybody recommend a bluetooth earpiece that does a good job of shielding
>wind noise from the mic? There are times when I might need to take a call
>while out riding (a bicycle), and normal bluetooth earpieces just don't work
>well at all. If the Jawbone would actually do the trick, I'd spend the $$$,
>but so far I haven't found many references to the Jawbone and wind noise.
>
>Thanks-
>
>--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
>www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
>
My wife uses a Jawbone device with her iPhone, but, when I am on the
receiving end of her calls, I hear distortion and wind noise which is
worse than what I have heard from other earpieces used by others.
I use a Motorola T505 speakerphone device with my RAZR and it is much
better than the Jawbone.
Best,
Bob
Robert A. Fink, M. D.
Neurological Surgery
2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
Berkeley, CA 94704-2636 USA
510-849-2555
**********************************
NOTE: The material above is not "medical
advice". Medical advice can only be
given after an in-person contact between
doctor and patient.
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- 08-05-2008, 04:49 PM #3Mike JacoubowskyGuest
Re: best bluetooth for wind noise?
> My wife uses a Jawbone device with her iPhone, but, when I am on the
> receiving end of her calls, I hear distortion and wind noise which is
> worse than what I have heard from other earpieces used by others.
>
> I use a Motorola T505 speakerphone device with my RAZR and it is much
> better than the Jawbone.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Bob
And there's the thing... 4phun reported that it works very well with wind
noise. Go figure. It's as if there are two entirely different user
experiences with the Jawbone. Which, in fact, there might be, but why? I can
understand the issue about whether it's touching your cheekbone or not, but
not sure how that correlates to wind noise issues.
I could try one and return it if it didn't work, but that would probably be
as likely as me sending in rebates. I'd get around to it, someday. Maybe.
Thanks-
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
- 08-05-2008, 06:21 PM #44phunGuest
Re: best bluetooth for wind noise?
Bob that Jawbone is very sensitive to proper use. The little device
must be touching one's cheek in order to cancel all wind and other
background noise. Several of us had them in a very noisy environment
with iPhones. We all noticed the first iPhone user who had one was
very clear and so we all bought the Jawbone original edition. The new
ones are supposed to be even better.
When I first used mine I had a lot of complaints until I realized that
it must lightly touch your cheek while you are talking. It took a bit
to get the ear attachment to set correctly for my face.
I prefer an AnyCom solar blue tooth speaker for use with the iPhone in
the car since it doesn't need any wires to keep charged in normal use.
I get an occasional echo on my end with that one which is a fault of
the 3G iPhone or so I have been told.
On Aug 5, 4:32*pm, "Robert A. Fink, M. D." <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:01:50 -0400, "Bill" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >CNET.com has some reviews of the Jawbone type.
> >Others too.
>
> >"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:WD%[email protected]...
> >Not sure where the best place to post this is, but since it's an ATT iphone,
> >why not?
>
> >Can anybody recommend a bluetooth earpiece that does a good job of shielding
> >wind noise from the mic? There are times when I might need to take a call
> >while out riding (a bicycle), and normal bluetooth earpieces just don't work
> >well at all. If the Jawbone would actually do the trick, I'd spend the $$$,
> >but so far I haven't found many references to the Jawbone and wind noise..
>
> >Thanks-
>
> >--Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycles
> >www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
> My wife uses a Jawbone device with her iPhone, but, when I am on the
> receiving end of her calls, I hear distortion and wind noise which is
> worse than what I have heard from other earpieces used by others.
>
> I use a Motorola T505 speakerphone device with my RAZR and it is much
> better than the Jawbone.
>
> Best,
>
> Bob
>
> Robert A. Fink, M. D.
> Neurological Surgery
> 2500 Milvia Street *Suite 222
> Berkeley, CA *94704-2636 *USA
> 510-849-2555
>
> **********************************
> NOTE: *The material above is not "medical
> advice". *Medical advice can only be
> given after an in-person contact between
> doctor and patient.
> **********************************
- 08-06-2008, 12:39 AM #5Adam Kb2jpdGuest
Re: best bluetooth for wind noise?
The Jawbone is the best when properly applied to the face. Use it with
a iPhone and use it mobile with a jeep and a very high noise
environment. The old model is available in a giftbox for almost half
price on eBay. The newer black slim Jawbone NoiseAssassin is all the
rage in the phone stores.
Adam in NYC with a iPhone
On Aug 5, 12:55*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote:
> No
t sure where the best place to post this is, but since it's an ATT
iphone, why not?
>
> Can anybody recommend a bluetooth earpiece that does a good job of shielding wind noise from the mic? There are times when I might need to take a call while out riding (a bicycle), and normal bluetooth earpieces just don't work well at all. If the Jawbone would actually do the trick, I'd spend the$$$, but so far I haven't found many references to the Jawbone and wind noise.
>
> Thanks-
>
> --Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com
- 08-06-2008, 04:06 AM #6DevilsPGDGuest
Re: best bluetooth for wind noise?
In message
<90abea13-40d8-401f-8cb8-6fd27419d315@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
4phun <[email protected]> wrote:
>The Jawbone is very effective in cutting wind noise. Three thumbs up
>IMHO.
I've owned both the original and the updated version, in my experience
they're great at everything except wind noise.
They manage to handle music, car/bus/train noise, crowds, office
background noise, even my cat meowing incessantly at my attempt to speak
to someone other then him.
However, for wind noise, only the microphone on/off switch works, the
active noise cancellation does not, so the wind noise is still pretty
bad when I'm actually speaking.
That being said, either of the Jawbone headsets is still above any other
headset I've used for everything including wind.
- 08-06-2008, 11:25 AM #7SMSGuest
Re: best bluetooth for wind noise?
Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>> My wife uses a Jawbone device with her iPhone, but, when I am on the
>> receiving end of her calls, I hear distortion and wind noise which is
>> worse than what I have heard from other earpieces used by others.
>>
>> I use a Motorola T505 speakerphone device with my RAZR and it is much
>> better than the Jawbone.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Bob
>
> And there's the thing... 4phun reported that it works very well with wind
> noise.
LOL, you're new here, huh? If 4phun said it worked well with wind noise,
that's a pretty good indicator that it doesn't.
I have the same issue with using Bluetooth on the bicycle, it just
doesn't work, and I was amused to get an error message while trying to
voice dial of something like "too noisy." This was with a Jabra headset.
I think you're S.O.L. on this one. Maybe a full face helmet would solve
the problem.
Maybe a Bluetooth Speakerphone with integral battery and speaker would
work, i.e. Parrot MINIKIT, or BlueAnt Supertooth.
- 08-06-2008, 01:48 PM #8Mike JacoubowskyGuest
Re: best bluetooth for wind noise?
>> And there's the thing... 4phun reported that it works very well with wind
>> noise.
>
> LOL, you're new here, huh? If 4phun said it worked well with wind noise,
> that's a pretty good indicator that it doesn't.
>
> I have the same issue with using Bluetooth on the bicycle, it just doesn't
> work, and I was amused to get an error message while trying to voice dial
> of something like "too noisy." This was with a Jabra headset.
>
> I think you're S.O.L. on this one. Maybe a full face helmet would solve
> the problem.
>
> Maybe a Bluetooth Speakerphone with integral battery and speaker would
> work, i.e. Parrot MINIKIT, or BlueAnt Supertooth.
I've used a variety of Bluetooth ear pieces over the years, including
several Jabras (BT125, 150, 250 and 5020). None of the units I've used has
been worth a nickel in the slightest wind and it seems that, even when you
stop, I dunno, wind seems to follow you around when you're on a bike ride.
Always head winds, of course. In 40 years of riding, I don't think I've ever
had a tail wind. Days when I thought that might have been possible, I'm sure
it was just the epo kicking in. :>)
Anyway, I'm still looking for someone who may have actually used a Jawbone
while riding. There has to be someone out there who has...
(And as far as the cast of characters on Usenet, nothing new there.
Sometimes there's a bit of useful info coming from even the least-reliable
sources. At least they give you something to think about.)
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
"SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>> My wife uses a Jawbone device with her iPhone, but, when I am on the
>>> receiving end of her calls, I hear distortion and wind noise which is
>>> worse than what I have heard from other earpieces used by others.
>>>
>>> I use a Motorola T505 speakerphone device with my RAZR and it is much
>>> better than the Jawbone.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>> And there's the thing... 4phun reported that it works very well with wind
>> noise.
>
> LOL, you're new here, huh? If 4phun said it worked well with wind noise,
> that's a pretty good indicator that it doesn't.
>
> I have the same issue with using Bluetooth on the bicycle, it just doesn't
> work, and I was amused to get an error message while trying to voice dial
> of something like "too noisy." This was with a Jabra headset.
>
> I think you're S.O.L. on this one. Maybe a full face helmet would solve
> the problem.
>
> Maybe a Bluetooth Speakerphone with integral battery and speaker would
> work, i.e. Parrot MINIKIT, or BlueAnt Supertooth.
- 08-06-2008, 02:01 PM #9Kevin WeaverGuest
Re: best bluetooth for wind noise?
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>> And there's the thing... 4phun reported that it works very well with
>>> wind noise.
>>
>> LOL, you're new here, huh? If 4phun said it worked well with wind noise,
>> that's a pretty good indicator that it doesn't.
>>
>> I have the same issue with using Bluetooth on the bicycle, it just
>> doesn't work, and I was amused to get an error message while trying to
>> voice dial of something like "too noisy." This was with a Jabra headset.
>>
>> I think you're S.O.L. on this one. Maybe a full face helmet would solve
>> the problem.
>>
>> Maybe a Bluetooth Speakerphone with integral battery and speaker would
>> work, i.e. Parrot MINIKIT, or BlueAnt Supertooth.
>
> I've used a variety of Bluetooth ear pieces over the years, including
> several Jabras (BT125, 150, 250 and 5020). None of the units I've used has
> been worth a nickel in the slightest wind and it seems that, even when you
> stop, I dunno, wind seems to follow you around when you're on a bike ride.
> Always head winds, of course. In 40 years of riding, I don't think I've
> ever had a tail wind. Days when I thought that might have been possible,
> I'm sure it was just the epo kicking in. :>)
>
> Anyway, I'm still looking for someone who may have actually used a Jawbone
> while riding. There has to be someone out there who has...
>
> (And as far as the cast of characters on Usenet, nothing new there.
> Sometimes there's a bit of useful info coming from even the least-reliable
> sources. At least they give you something to think about.)
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>
>
>
>
> "SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>>> My wife uses a Jawbone device with her iPhone, but, when I am on the
>>>> receiving end of her calls, I hear distortion and wind noise which is
>>>> worse than what I have heard from other earpieces used by others.
>>>>
>>>> I use a Motorola T505 speakerphone device with my RAZR and it is much
>>>> better than the Jawbone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>
>>> And there's the thing... 4phun reported that it works very well with
>>> wind noise.
>>
>> LOL, you're new here, huh? If 4phun said it worked well with wind noise,
>> that's a pretty good indicator that it doesn't.
>>
>> I have the same issue with using Bluetooth on the bicycle, it just
>> doesn't work, and I was amused to get an error message while trying to
>> voice dial of something like "too noisy." This was with a Jabra headset.
>>
>> I think you're S.O.L. on this one. Maybe a full face helmet would solve
>> the problem.
>>
>> Maybe a Bluetooth Speakerphone with integral battery and speaker would
>> work, i.e. Parrot MINIKIT, or BlueAnt Supertooth.
>
>
I have a friend that has one. He took it back. There is a little white
button that has to be pushed in for it to work. This button is pressed in
when on your jawbone. Its sort of a spring loaded type built into the ear
piece.
I tried it and hated it. I went and bought the blueant Z3 and it's smaller,
lighter and works great. YMMV.
- 08-06-2008, 08:57 PM #10Mike JacoubowskyGuest
Re: best bluetooth for wind noise?
>>The Jawbone is very effective in cutting wind noise. Three thumbs up
>>IMHO.
>
> I've owned both the original and the updated version, in my experience
> they're great at everything except wind noise.
>
> They manage to handle music, car/bus/train noise, crowds, office
> background noise, even my cat meowing incessantly at my attempt to speak
> to someone other then him.
>
> However, for wind noise, only the microphone on/off switch works, the
> active noise cancellation does not, so the wind noise is still pretty
> bad when I'm actually speaking.
>
> That being said, either of the Jawbone headsets is still above any other
> headset I've used for everything including wind.
Well darn, this is of no help at all. Basically the Jawbone is the best of
the worst, and I have yet to figure out whether it works marginally well
enough to be useful. I know it works better than anything else, but it could
still be that wind noise still presents a greater challenge than modern
earpieces can deal with.
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
- 08-07-2008, 01:38 AM #11DevilsPGDGuest
Re: best bluetooth for wind noise?
In message <[email protected]> "Mike
Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>The Jawbone is very effective in cutting wind noise. Three thumbs up
>>>IMHO.
>>
>> I've owned both the original and the updated version, in my experience
>> they're great at everything except wind noise.
>>
>> They manage to handle music, car/bus/train noise, crowds, office
>> background noise, even my cat meowing incessantly at my attempt to speak
>> to someone other then him.
>>
>> However, for wind noise, only the microphone on/off switch works, the
>> active noise cancellation does not, so the wind noise is still pretty
>> bad when I'm actually speaking.
>>
>> That being said, either of the Jawbone headsets is still above any other
>> headset I've used for everything including wind.
>
>Well darn, this is of no help at all. Basically the Jawbone is the best of
>the worst, and I have yet to figure out whether it works marginally well
>enough to be useful. I know it works better than anything else, but it could
>still be that wind noise still presents a greater challenge than modern
>earpieces can deal with.
I'm not sure that single-source microphones exist, active noise
cancellation or not, that can handle wind properly.
In higher end cars you end up with two microphones and they're placed
appropriately for wind.
The best I've ever used was an in-the-ear wired headset which supposedly
picked up your voice through your jaw. The audio quality wasn't the
best, but there was next to no background noise. I managed to pinch the
cord, started looking for a replacement and as far as I can tell the
company built a time machine and disappeared retroactively.
- 08-07-2008, 01:10 PM #12Kevin WeaverGuest
Re: best bluetooth for wind noise?
I tried the Z3 on a motorcycle this am. They could not hear the wind when on
the max setting. They could hear slight wind on the 1st noise setting.
It has 3 settings. You can see the demo on there website.
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>>The Jawbone is very effective in cutting wind noise. Three thumbs up
>>>IMHO.
>>
>> I've owned both the original and the updated version, in my experience
>> they're great at everything except wind noise.
>>
>> They manage to handle music, car/bus/train noise, crowds, office
>> background noise, even my cat meowing incessantly at my attempt to speak
>> to someone other then him.
>>
>> However, for wind noise, only the microphone on/off switch works, the
>> active noise cancellation does not, so the wind noise is still pretty
>> bad when I'm actually speaking.
>>
>> That being said, either of the Jawbone headsets is still above any other
>> headset I've used for everything including wind.
>
> Well darn, this is of no help at all. Basically the Jawbone is the best of
> the worst, and I have yet to figure out whether it works marginally well
> enough to be useful. I know it works better than anything else, but it
> could still be that wind noise still presents a greater challenge than
> modern earpieces can deal with.
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>
- 08-07-2008, 05:27 PM #13Mike JacoubowskyGuest
Re: best bluetooth for wind noise?
"Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I tried the Z3 on a motorcycle this am. They could not hear the wind when
>on the max setting. They could hear slight wind on the 1st noise setting.
>
> It has 3 settings. You can see the demo on there website.
Open-face helmet? And what's the downside to the strongest setting?
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
"Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I tried the Z3 on a motorcycle this am. They could not hear the wind when
>on the max setting. They could hear slight wind on the 1st noise setting.
>
> It has 3 settings. You can see the demo on there website.
>
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>>>The Jawbone is very effective in cutting wind noise. Three thumbs up
>>>>IMHO.
>>>
>>> I've owned both the original and the updated version, in my experience
>>> they're great at everything except wind noise.
>>>
>>> They manage to handle music, car/bus/train noise, crowds, office
>>> background noise, even my cat meowing incessantly at my attempt to speak
>>> to someone other then him.
>>>
>>> However, for wind noise, only the microphone on/off switch works, the
>>> active noise cancellation does not, so the wind noise is still pretty
>>> bad when I'm actually speaking.
>>>
>>> That being said, either of the Jawbone headsets is still above any other
>>> headset I've used for everything including wind.
>>
>> Well darn, this is of no help at all. Basically the Jawbone is the best
>> of the worst, and I have yet to figure out whether it works marginally
>> well enough to be useful. I know it works better than anything else, but
>> it could still be that wind noise still presents a greater challenge than
>> modern earpieces can deal with.
>>
>> --Mike Jacoubowsky
>> Chain Reaction Bicycles
>> www.ChainReaction.com
>> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>>
>
- 08-07-2008, 06:06 PM #14Kevin WeaverGuest
Re: best bluetooth for wind noise?
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I tried the Z3 on a motorcycle this am. They could not hear the wind when
>>on the max setting. They could hear slight wind on the 1st noise setting.
>>
>> It has 3 settings. You can see the demo on there website.
>
> Open-face helmet? And what's the downside to the strongest setting?
No, full face. But I was doing 70 on the freway.
Highest setting sounds more like a robotic voice.
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>
>
> "Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I tried the Z3 on a motorcycle this am. They could not hear the wind when
>>on the max setting. They could hear slight wind on the 1st noise setting.
>>
>> It has 3 settings. You can see the demo on there website.
>>
>> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>The Jawbone is very effective in cutting wind noise. Three thumbs up
>>>>>IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> I've owned both the original and the updated version, in my experience
>>>> they're great at everything except wind noise.
>>>>
>>>> They manage to handle music, car/bus/train noise, crowds, office
>>>> background noise, even my cat meowing incessantly at my attempt to
>>>> speak
>>>> to someone other then him.
>>>>
>>>> However, for wind noise, only the microphone on/off switch works, the
>>>> active noise cancellation does not, so the wind noise is still pretty
>>>> bad when I'm actually speaking.
>>>>
>>>> That being said, either of the Jawbone headsets is still above any
>>>> other
>>>> headset I've used for everything including wind.
>>>
>>> Well darn, this is of no help at all. Basically the Jawbone is the best
>>> of the worst, and I have yet to figure out whether it works marginally
>>> well enough to be useful. I know it works better than anything else, but
>>> it could still be that wind noise still presents a greater challenge
>>> than modern earpieces can deal with.
>>>
>>> --Mike Jacoubowsky
>>> Chain Reaction Bicycles
>>> www.ChainReaction.com
>>> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>>>
>>
>
>
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