it's official: iPhone 3G is defective

SMS <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Any news about when iPhone's with a new rev of the Infineon chip will
> begin shipping or how Apple will handle replacements of existing 3G
> iPhones?
>
>

How Apple "handles replacements" is easily identified if you read my rant
about Magnusson-Moss I just posted. Apple has no choice. It's up to YOU,
the consumer, to REFUND or REPLACE if they cannot fix your unit in a timely
manner (3 attempts/30 days) USED equipment, by the way, is NOT ACCEPTABLE
under the act. You didn't buy USED equipment. You bought NEW
equipment....

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At 25 Sep 2008 16:29:31 +0000 Larry wrote:

> Nice deflection but transparent as hell. "That guy" is reporting
> exactly what the carriers with iPhones say in OTHER COUNTRIES on OTHER
> SYSTEMS.

To be fair, I'm unware on ANY carrier publically blaming the iPhone (except
T-Mo Netherlands) and they retracted after the last firmware. (Or perhaps
the guy who made the statement thought better of it after finding a horse's
head clad in a black turtleneck in his bed... ;-)

> The chances of ALL 3G systems iPhone operates on being wrong
> is damned near zero, especially when hundreds of other models from other
> manufacturers are working just fine.

Again, to be fair, while many users are experiencing problems, the vast
majority simply aren't.

> Take the rosy Apple glasses off
> and look. When the iPhone came on the air on their systems, 3G tanked
> from all iPhones making noises from retries and poor connectivity.

I've read some of the site
Collecting complaints, and it's obvious even the complainers don't know
exactly what their looking for, since many of the "complaints" were
unrelated to the supposed problem.

> The 3G chipset is the problem.

That's certainly a possibility, but no one has definitively said that.

> The ONLY cure is to correct the problem
> with a REPLACEMENT chipset that works. The ONLY way that can be done is
> to put out a CORRECTED product that is ready for consumers.

No, not necessarily. Many hardware flaws can be corrected, (or at least
"masked") by software.

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:29:31 +0000, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

>David G. Imber <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Sorry, your moves are so smooth that I'm baffled. Who's in
>> denial? I was quoting this supposedly authoritative article's first
>> line. The title implies that it's the device, and the first line says
>> it's likely the device. I don't know what school of journalism that
>> guy went to, but...
>>
>
>Nice deflection but transparent as hell. "That guy" is reporting
>exactly what the carriers with iPhones say in OTHER COUNTRIES on OTHER
>SYSTEMS.

Specific names, sources please. Thanks.

>Take the rosy Apple glasses off and look.

Might surprise you, but I'm anything but a fan of Apple.


>The 3G chipset is the problem. The ONLY cure is to correct the problem
>with a REPLACEMENT chipset that works.

If anyone could prove this I'd be first in line. No one has at
this point in time. Goodness knows there've been opportunities.

DGI

David G. Imber <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Specific names, sources please. Thanks.
>

Is your Google broken, too??

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...-Apple-IPhone-
Fix.php

At 26 Sep 2008 01:33:59 +0000 Larry wrote:

> > Specific names, sources please. Thanks.
> >
>
> Is your Google broken, too??
>
> http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...-Apple-IPhone-
> Fix.php

And how does that answer David's question? The article has no mention of
any carrier blaming Apple, nor does it specifically blame the chipset Apple
chose.

Like David, I haven't seen any definitive condemnation of the chipset, and
no carriers other than T-Mo Netherlands blamed Apple, and even T-Mo agreed
the 2.0.2 software update fixed the problem.

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:33:59 +0000, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

>David G. Imber <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Specific names, sources please. Thanks.
>>
>
>Is your Google broken, too??
>
>http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...-Apple-IPhone-
>Fix.php


That article is dated from AUGUST 20 (!), and it offers
absolutely nothing about the hardware OR the network.

Is your calendar broken, your reading glasses, or what?

DGI

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:33:59 +0000, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

>David G. Imber <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> Specific names, sources please. Thanks.
>>
>
>Is your Google broken, too??
>
>http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...-Apple-IPhone-
>Fix.php

Wait a second...I just realized I'm actually arguing with
Larry. What's come over me?!

He's got to be some kind of powerful shaman to have
ensorcelled me into an activity that ridiculous. Thank goodness I've
come to my senses.

DGI