iPhone headed to Wal-Mart

I read in today's paper that Wal-Mart will be selling a 4GB version of
the iPhone 3G for $99, starting later this month. No word if a lower
cost plan will also be available.

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"SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I read in today's paper that Wal-Mart will be selling a 4GB version of
>the iPhone 3G for $99, starting later this month. No word if a lower
>cost plan will also be available.

Can you imagine if they released an a la carte data plan, where you pay
by the kilobyte, as you would when roaming?

There really isn't much they can do to reduce the price of the available
plans, short of limiting the amount of data, and an iPhone with a cap on
data isn't much of an iPhone anymore. And an iPhone with pay-by-the-byte
data... well, you'd better make sure the people buying them can afford
that initial $1000 (plus?) phone bill. :>)

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 10:20:12 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I read in today's paper that Wal-Mart will be selling a 4GB version of
>the iPhone 3G for $99, starting later this month. No word if a lower
>cost plan will also be available.



This is like Navas. Old news posted as something new.

Here it was first reported TWO months ago.

http://gizmodo.com/5062183/iphone-3g...eat-depression

Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> "SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I read in today's paper that Wal-Mart will be selling a 4GB version of
>> the iPhone 3G for $99, starting later this month. No word if a lower
>> cost plan will also be available.
>
> Can you imagine if they released an a la carte data plan, where you pay
> by the kilobyte, as you would when roaming?
>
> There really isn't much they can do to reduce the price of the available
> plans, short of limiting the amount of data, and an iPhone with a cap on
> data isn't much of an iPhone anymore.

Sure there is. They could have peak and off-peak data, just like they do
for voice calls. Unlimited off-peak, limited amount during peak times.

On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 08:39:29 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>> "SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I read in today's paper that Wal-Mart will be selling a 4GB version of
>>> the iPhone 3G for $99, starting later this month. No word if a lower
>>> cost plan will also be available.
>>
>> Can you imagine if they released an a la carte data plan, where you pay
>> by the kilobyte, as you would when roaming?
>>
>> There really isn't much they can do to reduce the price of the available
>> plans, short of limiting the amount of data, and an iPhone with a cap on
>> data isn't much of an iPhone anymore.
>
>Sure there is. They could have peak and off-peak data, just like they do
>for voice calls. Unlimited off-peak, limited amount during peak times.

Or, as more reputible sources have said, there won't be a $99 iPhone.

Ron wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 08:39:29 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>> "SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> I read in today's paper that Wal-Mart will be selling a 4GB version of
>>>> the iPhone 3G for $99, starting later this month. No word if a lower
>>>> cost plan will also be available.
>>> Can you imagine if they released an a la carte data plan, where you pay
>>> by the kilobyte, as you would when roaming?
>>>
>>> There really isn't much they can do to reduce the price of the available
>>> plans, short of limiting the amount of data, and an iPhone with a cap on
>>> data isn't much of an iPhone anymore.
>> Sure there is. They could have peak and off-peak data, just like they do
>> for voice calls. Unlimited off-peak, limited amount during peak times.
>
> Or, as more reputible sources have said, there won't be a $99 iPhone.

The story a couple of days ago in the San Jose Mercury was pretty sure
that there would be.

"Kim Nguyen, who is the department manager of the cell phone department
at the Milpitas Wal-Mart, said she was told by an AT&T representative
that her store would be getting a 4 GB model. She also said the store
was supposed to get some iPhones two days before Christmas."

On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 09:08:13 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Ron wrote:
>> On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 08:39:29 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>>> "SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> I read in today's paper that Wal-Mart will be selling a 4GB version of
>>>>> the iPhone 3G for $99, starting later this month. No word if a lower
>>>>> cost plan will also be available.
>>>> Can you imagine if they released an a la carte data plan, where you pay
>>>> by the kilobyte, as you would when roaming?
>>>>
>>>> There really isn't much they can do to reduce the price of the available
>>>> plans, short of limiting the amount of data, and an iPhone with a cap on
>>>> data isn't much of an iPhone anymore.
>>> Sure there is. They could have peak and off-peak data, just like they do
>>> for voice calls. Unlimited off-peak, limited amount during peak times.
>>
>> Or, as more reputible sources have said, there won't be a $99 iPhone.
>
>The story a couple of days ago in the San Jose Mercury was pretty sure
>that there would be.
>
>"Kim Nguyen, who is the department manager of the cell phone department
>at the Milpitas Wal-Mart, said she was told by an AT&T representative
>that her store would be getting a 4 GB model. She also said the store
>was supposed to get some iPhones two days before Christmas."


I did say reputible source, didnt I?

Ron <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
news:[email protected]:

> On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 09:08:13 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Ron wrote:
>>> On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 08:39:29 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>>>> "SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> I read in today's paper that Wal-Mart will be selling a 4GB
>>>>>> version of the iPhone 3G for $99, starting later this month. No
>>>>>> word if a lower cost plan will also be available.
>>>>> Can you imagine if they released an a la carte data plan, where
>>>>> you pay by the kilobyte, as you would when roaming?
>>>>>
>>>>> There really isn't much they can do to reduce the price of the
>>>>> available plans, short of limiting the amount of data, and an
>>>>> iPhone with a cap on data isn't much of an iPhone anymore.
>>>> Sure there is. They could have peak and off-peak data, just like
>>>> they do for voice calls. Unlimited off-peak, limited amount during
>>>> peak times.
>>>
>>> Or, as more reputible sources have said, there won't be a $99
>>> iPhone.
>>
>>The story a couple of days ago in the San Jose Mercury was pretty sure
>>that there would be.
>>
>>"Kim Nguyen, who is the department manager of the cell phone
>>department at the Milpitas Wal-Mart, said she was told by an AT&T
>>representative that her store would be getting a 4 GB model. She also
>>said the store was supposed to get some iPhones two days before
>>Christmas."
>
>
> I did say reputible source, didnt I?

It appears that all of the talk about a $99 iPhone was only $98 off:

http://apple20.blogs.fortune.cnn.com...f-a-rumor-wal-
marts-99-iphone/

In article <tvc%[email protected]>, SMS
<[email protected]> wrote:

> > Or, as more reputible sources have said, there won't be a $99 iPhone.
>
> The story a couple of days ago in the San Jose Mercury was pretty sure
> that there would be.
>
> "Kim Nguyen, who is the department manager of the cell phone department
> at the Milpitas Wal-Mart, said she was told by an AT&T representative
> that her store would be getting a 4 GB model. She also said the store
> was supposed to get some iPhones two days before Christmas."

well, if kim said it, then it must be true.

until apple or at&t announce it, it's nothing but rumours.

On Dec 6, 1:20*pm, SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
> I read in today's paper that Wal-Mart will be selling a 4GB version of
> the iPhone 3G for $99, starting later this month. No word if a lower
> cost plan will also be available.

The Stereotypical Apple user, and why the iPhone at Walmart won’t hurt
Apple’s image

Mon, Dec 8, 2008

Analysis, News

After a lot hype, it now seems that the iPhone is, in fact, coming to
Walmart around December 28. While customers won’t be able to pick one
up for 99 bucks, Apple’s presence in Walmart will be a huge move for
Apple in increasing its distribution.

But some are claiming that an Apple/Walmart mix might not be good for
Apple. Some are claiming selling the iPhone at Walmart will take away
from the Apple “mystique” and might hurt its brand.

An article on Mashable today noted:

Although a broad generalization, the stereotype of Apple users (as
captured so well recently by The Simpsons) is that of left-leaning
elitists, who will pay anything to be associated with the brand and
its trendy products. On the other hand, Wal-Mart’s brand is often
generalized as having unfair labor practices, being willfully ignorant
of dismal factory conditions overseas, and using brutally competitive
tactics to wipe out local business when it comes to town.

Wow. It’s hard to know where to even begin. Well, for starters,
Apple products were popular long before hipsters in skinny jeans
started toting around their MacBooks from coffee shop to coffee shop.
And second, you can already find a slew of iPods at Walmart, so its
puzzling why the presence of the iPhone would all of a sudden affect
the Apple brand. But the underlying fallacy with the above-mentioned
excerpt is that it shows that people still don’t have a realistic
grasp on who the stereotypical Apple user really is.

It’s common these days to see a lot of Apple-bashing on the web, and
generalizing Apple users as fickle consumers who purchase iPods and
MacBooks to be cool. While those types of people definitely exist,
the majority of consumers who purchase Apple products do so because
they like the value they get from the product. Anyone who claims that
selling the iPhone at Walmart cheapens the brand, or makes them not
want to get one, is probably not the type of person who sees any real
value in Apple products in the first place. If they did, then they
wouldn’t care. Ironically, people who wouldn’t buy an iPhone because
it’s sold at Walmart fit more into the Apple stereotype of the “blind
consumer” than most Apple consumers themselves.

Apple has engineered a smartphone that turned the cellphone industry
on its head, and even some of the bigger cellphone companies are still
trying to figure out how to recover and be competitive with the
increasingly popular iPhone. Currently, users can only purchase an
iPhone at an Apple Store, an AT&T Store, or Best Buy. That said,
selling the iPhone at Walmart is a huge step in creating a larger
distribution channel for the device. And again, if people had a
realistic understanding on who the majority of Apple consumers are,
they wouldn’t assume for a second that a relationship with Walmart
would hurt the Apple brand.

Apple prides itself on producing premium products that are worth the
extra money compared to similar products from competing companies. It
prides itself on producing products with value. Apple’s products have
been so successful because consumers feel that they’re getting an
extra bang for that extra buck. So while it might be “cool” to
currently be seen with a Mac, who knows what tomorrows trend will be.
For all we know, Apple products are becoming so ubiquitous that it
soon might become “uncool” to be seen with one. But it doesn’t matter
one bit, because Apple isn’t in the business of being cool. Sure, it
might market itself that way to an extent, but what really drives
Apple’s success is the simple fact that users enjoy Apple products and
feel that they get something out of them. If I could pick up a new
iPhone for 30 bucks at a flea market, I’d be there faster than Steve
Jobs running to a Gap with a sale on black turtlenecks. Because when
it comes down to it, it’s not about the perception of the product,
it’s about what I can do with the product. That’s what Apple thrives
on. The D.J. you see at a club with a MacBook Pro, for example, isn’t
likely to switch to a PC when Dell’s all of a sudden become all the
rage (it’s a hypothetical mind you).

People tend to forget that for the longest time, it was markedly
uncool to own a Mac. Even up until recently, mac users had to defend
their OS of choice when the other 97% of the world was using Windows.
“You use a Mac?! What for? They suck.” is probably something that
sounds familiar to anyone who used a Mac in the 90’s. But it never
mattered, because Apple has typically succeeded, more often than not,
in creating products that help people be productive, increase
efficiency, and generally go about their daily business with fewer
headaches than their PC counterparts. So it’s not about being cool at
all. It’s about getting your **** done without having to fiddle with
drivers or call tech-support every week. That’s why the notion of
the Apple fanboy, or the liberal elite MacBook user is more humorous
than it is relevant. And that’s why the stereotypical Apple user in
actuality couldn’t care less about being cool. And that’s why the
iPhone at Walmart is really no big deal at all.

"SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news4c%[email protected]...
> Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>> "SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I read in today's paper that Wal-Mart will be selling a 4GB version
>>> of the iPhone 3G for $99, starting later this month. No word if a
>>> lower cost plan will also be available.
>>
>> Can you imagine if they released an a la carte data plan, where you
>> pay by the kilobyte, as you would when roaming?
>>
>> There really isn't much they can do to reduce the price of the
>> available plans, short of limiting the amount of data, and an iPhone
>> with a cap on data isn't much of an iPhone anymore.
>
> Sure there is. They could have peak and off-peak data, just like they
> do for voice calls. Unlimited off-peak, limited amount during peak
> times.

Do you have an iPhone? I find it unlikely somebody would have the will
power to not want to use it during the daytime, whether they're looking
at traffic conditions or news stories or sending emails with photos. If
those aren't things you might want to do, don't buy an iPhone, because I
don't think you're going to be able to switch off your desire to use it
during the day.

Heck, even the "visual voicemail" sucks up a fair number of bits &
bytes. You really have to dumb it down (cripple it so it's nothing more
than a normal phone) if you want to avoid data usage, and even then, it
becomes "less" than a normal phone because it's so heavily dependent
upon downloaded data for its functions. Even many of the downloadable
game apps reach out to the 'net during normal operation.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:43:14 -0800 (PST), iPhone 3Gold
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Dec 6, 1:20*pm, SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I read in today's paper that Wal-Mart will be selling a 4GB version of
>> the iPhone 3G for $99, starting later this month. No word if a lower
>> cost plan will also be available.
>
>The Stereotypical Apple user, and why the iPhone at Walmart won’t hurt
>Apple’s image
>
>Mon, Dec 8, 2008
>
>Analysis, News
>
>After a lot hype, it now seems that the iPhone is, in fact, coming to
>Walmart around December 28. While customers won’t be able to pick one
>up for 99 bucks, Apple’s presence in Walmart will be a huge move for
>Apple in increasing its distribution.

However its an 8 Gig for $197 for new ATT customers.

>
>But some are claiming that an Apple/Walmart mix might not be good for
>Apple. Some are claiming selling the iPhone at Walmart will take away
>from the Apple “mystique” and might hurt its brand.
>
>An article on Mashable today noted:
>
> Although a broad generalization, the stereotype of Apple users (as
>captured so well recently by The Simpsons) is that of left-leaning
>elitists, who will pay anything to be associated with the brand and
>its trendy products. On the other hand, Wal-Mart’s brand is often
>generalized as having unfair labor practices, being willfully ignorant
>of dismal factory conditions overseas, and using brutally competitive
>tactics to wipe out local business when it comes to town.
>
>Wow. It’s hard to know where to even begin. Well, for starters,
>Apple products were popular long before hipsters in skinny jeans
>started toting around their MacBooks from coffee shop to coffee shop.
>And second, you can already find a slew of iPods at Walmart, so its
>puzzling why the presence of the iPhone would all of a sudden affect
>the Apple brand. But the underlying fallacy with the above-mentioned
>excerpt is that it shows that people still don’t have a realistic
>grasp on who the stereotypical Apple user really is.
>
>It’s common these days to see a lot of Apple-bashing on the web, and
>generalizing Apple users as fickle consumers who purchase iPods and
>MacBooks to be cool. While those types of people definitely exist,
>the majority of consumers who purchase Apple products do so because
>they like the value they get from the product. Anyone who claims that
>selling the iPhone at Walmart cheapens the brand, or makes them not
>want to get one, is probably not the type of person who sees any real
>value in Apple products in the first place. If they did, then they
>wouldn’t care. Ironically, people who wouldn’t buy an iPhone because
>it’s sold at Walmart fit more into the Apple stereotype of the “blind
>consumer” than most Apple consumers themselves.
>
>Apple has engineered a smartphone that turned the cellphone industry
>on its head, and even some of the bigger cellphone companies are still
>trying to figure out how to recover and be competitive with the
>increasingly popular iPhone. Currently, users can only purchase an
>iPhone at an Apple Store, an AT&T Store, or Best Buy. That said,
>selling the iPhone at Walmart is a huge step in creating a larger
>distribution channel for the device. And again, if people had a
>realistic understanding on who the majority of Apple consumers are,
>they wouldn’t assume for a second that a relationship with Walmart
>would hurt the Apple brand.
>
>Apple prides itself on producing premium products that are worth the
>extra money compared to similar products from competing companies. It
>prides itself on producing products with value. Apple’s products have
>been so successful because consumers feel that they’re getting an
>extra bang for that extra buck. So while it might be “cool” to
>currently be seen with a Mac, who knows what tomorrows trend will be.
>For all we know, Apple products are becoming so ubiquitous that it
>soon might become “uncool” to be seen with one. But it doesn’t matter
>one bit, because Apple isn’t in the business of being cool. Sure, it
>might market itself that way to an extent, but what really drives
>Apple’s success is the simple fact that users enjoy Apple products and
>feel that they get something out of them. If I could pick up a new
>iPhone for 30 bucks at a flea market, I’d be there faster than Steve
>Jobs running to a Gap with a sale on black turtlenecks. Because when
>it comes down to it, it’s not about the perception of the product,
>it’s about what I can do with the product. That’s what Apple thrives
>on. The D.J. you see at a club with a MacBook Pro, for example, isn’t
>likely to switch to a PC when Dell’s all of a sudden become all the
>rage (it’s a hypothetical mind you).
>
>People tend to forget that for the longest time, it was markedly
>uncool to own a Mac. Even up until recently, mac users had to defend
>their OS of choice when the other 97% of the world was using Windows.
>“You use a Mac?! What for? They suck.” is probably something that
>sounds familiar to anyone who used a Mac in the 90’s. But it never
>mattered, because Apple has typically succeeded, more often than not,
>in creating products that help people be productive, increase
>efficiency, and generally go about their daily business with fewer
>headaches than their PC counterparts. So it’s not about being cool at
>all. It’s about getting your **** done without having to fiddle with
>drivers or call tech-support every week. That’s why the notion of
>the Apple fanboy, or the liberal elite MacBook user is more humorous
>than it is relevant. And that’s why the stereotypical Apple user in
>actuality couldn’t care less about being cool. And that’s why the
>iPhone at Walmart is really no big deal at all.


Its a huge deal, for while Motorola is about to get out of the cell
business, and Nokia's Smart phone market share has literally been cut
in half the past 12 months, and just about everyone else is worried so
about the current Bush Rescession, Apples iPhone sales will now only
continue on their upward growth curve. The "Walmart types" that bought
Sprint phones in the Walmart stores based on perceived low prices
can now even easier switch to an iPhone.

Ron <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Its a huge deal, for while Motorola is about to get out of the cell
> business, and Nokia's Smart phone market share has literally been cut
> in half the past 12 months, and just about everyone else is worried so
> about the current Bush Rescession, Apples iPhone sales will now only
> continue on their upward growth curve. The "Walmart types" that bought
> Sprint phones in the Walmart stores based on perceived low prices
> can now even easier switch to an iPhone.
>

Apple Inc.
(NasdaqGS: AAPL)

NEW Real-time: 98.40 Down 1.32 (1.32%) 9:39am ET

If it were a HUGE deal, Apple stock wouldn't be going back under $100......

The stock market doesn't think it's much of a deal at all, obviously.
They're the only ones who count.

On Dec 9, 6:29*am, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 19:43:14 -0800 (PST), iPhone 3Gold
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Dec 6, 1:20*pm, SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I read in today's paper that Wal-Mart will be selling a 4GB version of
> >> the iPhone 3G for $99, starting later this month. No word if a lower
> >> cost plan will also be available.
>
> >The Stereotypical Apple user, and why the iPhone at Walmart won’t hurt
> >Apple’s image
>
> >Mon, Dec 8, 2008
>
> >Analysis, News
>
> >After a lot hype, it now seems that the iPhone is, in fact, coming to
> >Walmart around December 28. *While customers won’t be able to pick one
> >up for 99 bucks, Apple’s presence in Walmart will be a huge move for
> >Apple in increasing its distribution.
>
> However its an 8 Gig for $197 for new ATT customers.
>
>
>
>
>
> >But some are claiming that an Apple/Walmart mix might not be good for
> >Apple. *Some are claiming selling the iPhone at Walmart will take away
> >from the Apple “mystique” and might hurt its brand.
>
> >An article on Mashable today noted:
>
> > * *Although a broad generalization, the stereotype of Apple users (as
> >captured so well recently by The Simpsons) is that of left-leaning
> >elitists, who will pay anything to be associated with the brand and
> >its trendy products. On the other hand, Wal-Mart’s brand is often
> >generalized as having unfair labor practices, being willfully ignorant
> >of dismal factory conditions overseas, and using brutally competitive
> >tactics to wipe out local business when it comes to town.
>
> >Wow. *It’s hard to know where to even begin. *Well, for starters,
> >Apple products were popular long before hipsters in skinny jeans
> >started toting around their MacBooks from coffee shop to coffee shop.
> >And second, you can already find a slew of iPods at Walmart, so its
> >puzzling why the presence of the iPhone would all of a sudden affect
> >the Apple brand. *But the underlying fallacy with the above-mentioned
> >excerpt is that it shows that people still don’t have a realistic
> >grasp on who the stereotypical Apple user really is.
>
> >It’s common these days to see a lot of Apple-bashing on the web, and
> >generalizing Apple users as fickle consumers who purchase iPods and
> >MacBooks to be cool. *While those types of people definitely exist,
> >the majority of consumers who purchase Apple products do so because
> >they like the value they get from the product. *Anyone who claims that
> >selling the iPhone at Walmart cheapens the brand, or makes them not
> >want to get one, is probably not the type of person who sees any real
> >value in Apple products in the first place. *If they did, then they
> >wouldn’t care. *Ironically, people who wouldn’t buy an iPhone because
> >it’s sold at Walmart fit more into the Apple stereotype of the “blind
> >consumer” than most Apple consumers themselves.
>
> >Apple has engineered a smartphone that turned the cellphone industry
> >on its head, and even some of the bigger cellphone companies are still
> >trying to figure out how to recover and be competitive with the
> >increasingly popular iPhone. *Currently, users can only purchase an
> >iPhone at an Apple Store, an AT&T Store, or Best Buy. *That said,
> >selling the iPhone at Walmart is a huge step in creating a larger
> >distribution channel for the device. *And again, if people had a
> >realistic understanding on who the majority of Apple consumers are,
> >they wouldn’t assume for a second that a relationship with Walmart
> >would hurt the Apple brand.
>
> >Apple prides itself on producing premium products that are worth the
> >extra money compared to similar products from competing companies. *It
> >prides itself on producing products with value. *Apple’s products have
> >been so successful because consumers feel that they’re getting an
> >extra bang for that extra buck. *So while it might be “cool” to
> >currently be seen with a Mac, who knows what tomorrows trend will be.
> >For all we know, Apple products are becoming so ubiquitous that it
> >soon might become “uncool” to be seen with one. *But it doesn’t matter
> >one bit, because Apple isn’t in the business of being cool. *Sure, it
> >might market itself that way to an extent, but what really drives
> >Apple’s success is the simple fact that users enjoy Apple products and
> >feel that they get something out of them. *If I could pick up a new
> >iPhone for 30 bucks at a flea market, I’d be there faster than Steve
> >Jobs running to a Gap with a sale on black turtlenecks. *Because when
> >it comes down to it, it’s not about the perception of the product,
> >it’s about what I can do with the product. *That’s what Apple thrives
> >on. *The D.J. you see at a club with a MacBook Pro, for example, isn’t
> >likely to switch to a PC when Dell’s all of a sudden become all the
> >rage (it’s a hypothetical mind you).
>
> >People tend to forget that for the longest time, it was markedly
> >uncool to own a Mac. *Even up until recently, mac users had to defend
> >their OS of choice when the other 97% of the world was using Windows.
> >“You use a Mac?! What for? *They suck.” is probably something that
> >sounds familiar to anyone who used a Mac in the 90’s. *But it never
> >mattered, because Apple has typically succeeded, more often than not,
> >in creating products that help people be productive, increase
> >efficiency, and generally go about their daily business with fewer
> >headaches than their PC counterparts. *So it’s not about being cool at
> >all. *It’s about getting your **** done without having to fiddle with
> >drivers or call tech-support every week. * *That’s why the notion of
> >the Apple fanboy, or the liberal elite MacBook user is more humorous
> >than it is relevant. *And that’s why the stereotypical Apple user in
> >actuality couldn’t care less about being cool. *And that’s why the
> >iPhone at Walmart is really no big deal at all.
>
> Its a huge deal, for while Motorola is about to get out of the cell
> business, and Nokia's Smart phone market share has literally been cut
> in half the past 12 months, and just about everyone else is worried so
> about the current Bush Rescession, Apples iPhone sales will now only
> continue on their upward growth curve. The "Walmart types" that bought
> Sprint phones in the Walmart stores based on perceived low prices
> can now even easier switch to an iPhone.

There is even another more powerful reason to switch to AT&T and the
iPhone.

Live TV on the iPhone is coming to your iPhone in the near future.
No not your windows mobile, blackberry, or symbian phone, it is coming
only to your AT&T iPhone (or iPod Touch)!

Dave Brewer just posted this...

Livestation has offered everyone a sneak peak, although streaming of
live TV on the iPhone and iPod Touch via the Livestation player will
not be publicly available until Apple give us the go-ahead.

Our team in the Bakery (the place where all Livestation’s fantastic
engineers churn out exciting developments like this), has been working
on it for some time.

It’s crisp, clear, reliable and extremely impressive and it is what
news junkies like me have been waiting for.

I was in Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina doing some media training
when I received a tweet announcing that a neat video had been shot
demonstrating the new development.

Two clicks later and I was watching Livestation’s CEO, Matteo
Berlucchi, demonstrating the live streaming over the iPhone.

All you will need is an iPhone or iTouch. Keep checking the
Livestation site to get an early heads up about when it will be
available.

"4phun" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> There is even another more powerful reason to switch to AT&T and the
> iPhone.

Can't find your flashlight?

> Live TV on the iPhone is coming to your iPhone in the near future.
> No not your windows mobile, blackberry, or symbian phone, it is coming
> only to your AT&T iPhone (or iPod Touch)!

Correct. Live TV isn't "coming" to WinMo or Symbian in the near future,
because it already "came" a long time ago.

> Dave Brewer just posted this...
>
> Livestation has offered everyone a sneak peak, although streaming of
> live TV on the iPhone and iPod Touch via the Livestation player will
> not be publicly available until Apple give us the go-ahead.

Funny, I've been watching live TV on my WinMo devices for a several years,
and no one had to get Microsoft's "go-ahead."

> Our team in the Bakery (the place where all Livestation’s fantastic
> engineers churn out exciting developments like this), has been working
> on it for some time.
>
> It’s crisp, clear, reliable and extremely impressive and it is what
> news junkies like me have been waiting for.

Then maybe "news junkies" like Dave Brewer should've bought a different
device...

> I was in Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina doing some media training
> when I received a tweet announcing that a neat video had been shot
> demonstrating the new development.
>
> Two clicks later and I was watching Livestation’s CEO, Matteo
> Berlucchi, demonstrating the live streaming over the iPhone.

I wonder if he could watch the demonstration on his iPhone? Ironically,
they provided a .wmv link that worked on my WinMo device.

> All you will need is an iPhone or iTouch. Keep checking the
> Livestation site to get an early heads up about when it will be
> available.

Hmm, their lineup looks like a collection of all of the already available
free streaming TV sites around the 'net- CNN Int'l, Fox 8, BBC, NASA, etc.
Why does anyone need to download a special player to view all of the streams
that WMP, Real, QT, etc. already play?

Lists of these streaming channels have already been compiled by the websites
like http://www.pocketpcmedia.com. Just point your mobile browser there to
listen to/view hundreds of streaming radio and TV stations on a compatible
device now, or...

....you could always wait "until April."

While the iPhone is a pretty cool device, you aren't really doing it any
favors by pointing out the stuff it'll do "someday"- particularly when many
devices do these things NOW.

I can't wait to see your post when someone comes up with an Office document
editor for iPhone... ("Finally- a way to edit Word and Excel files on a
mobile phone! Suck on THAT WinMo and Blackberry!")