News: Details on iPhone at Walmart

"nospam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:211220080606293785%[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, Kevin Weaver
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >> > or use one of the dozens of dedicated restaurant search apps that
>> >> > are
>> >> > location aware and link to reviews too. why use a webpage at all?
>> >>
>> >> They don't cover all area's. If your in a area not covered like mine,
>> >> And
>> >> were not some hick town. There are a few on one but hardly worth the
>> >> effort.
>> >
>> > you have an iphone? which ones have you used?
>>
>> Me own a iPhone ? Your a funny guy. Biggest POS There is. Closed OS, no
>> thanks. A few friends own them. They thought they were bad-ass till they
>> see
>> things that it wont do as to what I have. They both regret buying them.
>
> just what i thought. you haven't actually used any restaurant search
> apps on the iphone, yet you are so sure they don't work well. and if
> your friends regret buying an iphone so much, why haven't they replaced
> them with something else and then sell it on ebay, likely making a nice
> profit out of it?

I never said they did not work. Just that they dont list more then a few in
my area.

>
>> Bluetooth flat out sucks on the iPhone. Can't transfer file's. No
>> external
>> mem so there stuck at 8 and 16GB. Battery can't last more then a day.
>
> the only issue with bluetooth is it doesn't support stereo headsets,
> but those are clunky and not particularly common. transferring files
> is easy. most people are more than happy with 16 gig; the best selling
> ipods have less than that.

Do you think that everyone follows your thinking ? You just find ways around
what the iPhone wont do with Things like: MMS Sucks so it's not needed.
Bluetooth headphones are big so there not needed, Etc.
Quit thinking of excuses for it. _Insert Fanboi here_

Why no comment on the crap battery life not going a day ?
>
> the iphone isn't everything to everyone, it's most things to most
> people. buy something else if you don't like it.

I did.


They were stupid to sign 2 year contracts. That's there problem. I've played
with them and one or two locations in our area is nothing to write home
about.

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"Charles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <211220080606293785%[email protected]>, nospam
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> just what i thought. you haven't actually used any restaurant search
>> apps on the iphone, yet you are so sure they don't work well. and if
>> your friends regret buying an iphone so much, why haven't they replaced
>> them with something else and then sell it on ebay, likely making a nice
>> profit out of it?
>
> Weaver is a troll. He doesn't have any "friends". Everything you post
> he will reply with ignorant bull****. Don't fall for the bait. I advise
> you to kill file him like I have done.
>
> --
> Charles


Unlike you. I don't fall for the Fanboi club ****.

In article <uvq3l.10582$x%[email protected]>, Kevin Weaver
<[email protected]> wrote:

> > just what i thought. you haven't actually used any restaurant search
> > apps on the iphone, yet you are so sure they don't work well. and if
> > your friends regret buying an iphone so much, why haven't they replaced
> > them with something else and then sell it on ebay, likely making a nice
> > profit out of it?
>
> I never said they did not work. Just that they dont list more then a few in
> my area.

it's awfully perceptive of you to know what the apps do or do not list
when you don't have an iphone on which to run them.

> >> Bluetooth flat out sucks on the iPhone. Can't transfer file's. No
> >> external
> >> mem so there stuck at 8 and 16GB. Battery can't last more then a day.
> >
> > the only issue with bluetooth is it doesn't support stereo headsets,
> > but those are clunky and not particularly common. transferring files
> > is easy. most people are more than happy with 16 gig; the best selling
> > ipods have less than that.
>
> Do you think that everyone follows your thinking ? You just find ways around
> what the iPhone wont do with Things like: MMS Sucks so it's not needed.
> Bluetooth headphones are big so there not needed, Etc.
> Quit thinking of excuses for it. _Insert Fanboi here_

it's not excuses. although i see a lot of bluetooth headsets for phone
calls, i've yet to see *anyone* using bluetooth headphones for
listening to music, whether it's an ipod or cd player or some other
device. everyone i see has wired headphones of some sort for music.
it's not a high demand feature.

> Why no comment on the crap battery life not going a day ?

depends on usage. most people get more than a day out of it with
typical use. you don't think everyone just sits around and surfs on it
for hours on end, do you?

> They were stupid to sign 2 year contracts. That's there problem. I've played
> with them and one or two locations in our area is nothing to write home
> about.

why is it a problem? buy another phone, switch handsets and then sell
the iphone. chances are very high they'll make money on the deal.

"Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> If you can't see it, you don't need it.
>
>

There's the problem. They seem real fanbois until their curiosity drags
them over to where I'm sitting with the Linux tablet. It starts with,
"What's that?" I answer whatever new movie I'm watching, then they MUST
tell me how wonderful iPhone is, being ONE unit, not the tablet and the
tiny Z6m in my pocket (modem). I'm nice, but instructive, and show them
a few little items not available on the Fruitfone. It looks less
glamorous after a few minutes. Then, they start asking themselves, "Why
can't my iPhone do that? It's the finest handheld device on the
planet!" Sometimes they grow angry at what they're missing. I try to
explain why you SHOULDN'T own a computer controlled and programmed by a
sellphone company hell bent on reducing bandwidth loading.

Sometimes they ask, "What does that cost?", assuming after being ripped
in Appleland that it has to cost thousands. "New, this one was $239
from buy.com", I explain, "but this one I just bought for $100 from a
guy I met on the internet from NY." "What about that neat software?",
they ply trying to justify all they've spent so far, and continuing.
"Oh, all the software except the commercial GPS navigation program is
free.", I muse, "It comes from a large open source community of geniuses
who use it to show what great things they can do. Just go to
http://www.maemo.org to see the user software libraries. They install
with a simple click on the green arrows."

Now, they go into denial. "You don't have Multitouch. Only iPhone has
multitouch and it's the finest thing that ever came out for a
touchscreen." I boot Xournal and try to make the tiniest little drawing
my shaky hands can create on the very high resolution touchscreen with
its nasty old pointy stylus. "You have to use a stylus?! How old!" As
the tiny sketch materializes, I point out why we use a stylus instead of
our meathook. I try to bring them out, gently. I'm here to educate,
not make enemies. Even the ones with bolts through their noses can see
the stylus' reason. I pop up an intensely complex webpage like
news.google.com on the 800-pixel-wide display. "Go to this page on your
iPhone." Immediately, he can see I'm looking at the whole webpage
width, not the left half of it. "Click up this article." I point the
stylus to the most densely packed group of clickable news articles and
pick one in the middle.....on the right side of the display. He starts
moving his tiny window around until he finds them, then starts splitting
his fingers to make them far enough apart he can point his meathook at
the right one....step after step after step. "See any difference?", I
ask. He does.

Now, the silly Finns have given us a useful new toy:
http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/handwritingcalculator
It's the coolest touchscreen calculator I've ever seen....

I'm trying to learn Quickwrite, which is ported to the maemo tablets.
http://mrl.nyu.edu/projects/quikwriting/Quikwrite1.html
I watched someone "writing" an email with it and am totally fascinated.
It's going to take a lot of practice, but is like a great game....(c;]

iPhones miss all this. My flashlight is on my keychain....

Have you seen Nokia Labs' new Image Exchange for the Nokia smartphones?
It uploads the picture to your photo webpage AS YOU TAKE THEM! Totally
cool....no syncing, no sitting uploading, no iTunes. Runs in background
on the S60 series phones. S is for Symbian. It's great as long as
you're not DATA ROAMING IN EUROPE at a $1000/KB...(c;

The lab is always open for us to play:
http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/applications
crazy Finns.....

"Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in news:bXi3l.11094
[email protected]:

> If you can't see it, you don't need it.
>
>

I think the users may be catching the virus from the corporation staff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44w-RYurbN4

Let's not talk about anything but what's on the list.....to sell iPhones.

Don't question why Apple does or doesn't do. Watch the video. You've seen
this bull**** right on these newsgroups.

"nospam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:211220080805523537%[email protected]...
> In article <uvq3l.10582$x%[email protected]>, Kevin Weaver
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > just what i thought. you haven't actually used any restaurant search
>> > apps on the iphone, yet you are so sure they don't work well. and if
>> > your friends regret buying an iphone so much, why haven't they replaced
>> > them with something else and then sell it on ebay, likely making a nice
>> > profit out of it?
>>
>> I never said they did not work. Just that they dont list more then a few
>> in
>> my area.
>
> it's awfully perceptive of you to know what the apps do or do not list
> when you don't have an iphone on which to run them.
>
>> >> Bluetooth flat out sucks on the iPhone. Can't transfer file's. No
>> >> external
>> >> mem so there stuck at 8 and 16GB. Battery can't last more then a day.
>> >
>> > the only issue with bluetooth is it doesn't support stereo headsets,
>> > but those are clunky and not particularly common. transferring files
>> > is easy. most people are more than happy with 16 gig; the best selling
>> > ipods have less than that.
>>
>> Do you think that everyone follows your thinking ? You just find ways
>> around
>> what the iPhone wont do with Things like: MMS Sucks so it's not needed.
>> Bluetooth headphones are big so there not needed, Etc.
>> Quit thinking of excuses for it. _Insert Fanboi here_
>
> it's not excuses. although i see a lot of bluetooth headsets for phone
> calls, i've yet to see *anyone* using bluetooth headphones for
> listening to music, whether it's an ipod or cd player or some other
> device. everyone i see has wired headphones of some sort for music.
> it's not a high demand feature.

So becuase *you* have not seen anyone then it must not be needed. You need
to get out more.
Same as the MMS huh ? you don't have any use for it, so no-one needs it.
>
>> Why no comment on the crap battery life not going a day ?
>
> depends on usage. most people get more than a day out of it with
> typical use. you don't think everyone just sits around and surfs on it
> for hours on end, do you?

Some do. I know what I see with the friends that have them. Full charge in
the am and it's in the red by 5pm
>
>> They were stupid to sign 2 year contracts. That's there problem. I've
>> played
>> with them and one or two locations in our area is nothing to write home
>> about.
>
> why is it a problem? buy another phone, switch handsets and then sell
> the iphone. chances are very high they'll make money on the deal.

nospam <[email protected]> wrote in news:211220080606293785%
[email protected]lid:

> the only issue with bluetooth is it doesn't support stereo headsets,
> but those are clunky and not particularly common. transferring files
> is easy. most people are more than happy with 16 gig; the best selling
> ipods have less than that.
>

You've never swapped music with a friend's computer over Bluetooth FTP
during lunch, have you?

I thought not.

You've never Bluetoothed some neat software from your device to your
friend's device, or vice-versa, during a meeting, have you?

I thought not.

You've never been in a Bluetooth network so you can share stuff during the
seminar, having access to a shared database on someone else's laptop, have
you?

I thought not.

iPhone might as well not even have Bluetooth. It needs a headphone jack.

Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote in news:Spj3l.18840$iY3.3444
@newsfe14.iad:

> At 20 Dec 2008 20:40:19 -0500 nospam wrote:
>
>> > Yeah. Keep thinking that. Not everyone has e-mail to get pictures.
>>
>> more and more phones have email.
>
>
> True, but not many have push-email, which gives MMS a distinct advantage-
> like SMS, it offers instant delivery.
>
>
>

Nokia's just blown them all away. The CAMERA in the S60 phones now feeds
the pictures as soon as you snap them!

http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/imageexchange

Anyone you like, or just yourself, can see the picture you just shot 10
seconds ago on Image Exchange....

All you did was click the shutter...er, ah, what passes for a shutter these
days.

"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> If you can't see it, you don't need it.
>>
>>
>
> There's the problem. They seem real fanbois until their curiosity drags
> them over to where I'm sitting with the Linux tablet. It starts with,
> "What's that?" I answer whatever new movie I'm watching, then they MUST
> tell me how wonderful iPhone is, being ONE unit, not the tablet and the
> tiny Z6m in my pocket (modem). I'm nice, but instructive, and show them
> a few little items not available on the Fruitfone. It looks less
> glamorous after a few minutes. Then, they start asking themselves, "Why
> can't my iPhone do that? It's the finest handheld device on the
> planet!" Sometimes they grow angry at what they're missing. I try to
> explain why you SHOULDN'T own a computer controlled and programmed by a
> sellphone company hell bent on reducing bandwidth loading.
>
> Sometimes they ask, "What does that cost?", assuming after being ripped
> in Appleland that it has to cost thousands. "New, this one was $239
> from buy.com", I explain, "but this one I just bought for $100 from a
> guy I met on the internet from NY." "What about that neat software?",
> they ply trying to justify all they've spent so far, and continuing.
> "Oh, all the software except the commercial GPS navigation program is
> free.", I muse, "It comes from a large open source community of geniuses
> who use it to show what great things they can do. Just go to
> http://www.maemo.org to see the user software libraries. They install
> with a simple click on the green arrows."
>
> Now, they go into denial. "You don't have Multitouch. Only iPhone has
> multitouch and it's the finest thing that ever came out for a
> touchscreen." I boot Xournal and try to make the tiniest little drawing
> my shaky hands can create on the very high resolution touchscreen with
> its nasty old pointy stylus. "You have to use a stylus?! How old!" As
> the tiny sketch materializes, I point out why we use a stylus instead of
> our meathook. I try to bring them out, gently. I'm here to educate,
> not make enemies. Even the ones with bolts through their noses can see
> the stylus' reason. I pop up an intensely complex webpage like
> news.google.com on the 800-pixel-wide display. "Go to this page on your
> iPhone." Immediately, he can see I'm looking at the whole webpage
> width, not the left half of it. "Click up this article." I point the
> stylus to the most densely packed group of clickable news articles and
> pick one in the middle.....on the right side of the display. He starts
> moving his tiny window around until he finds them, then starts splitting
> his fingers to make them far enough apart he can point his meathook at
> the right one....step after step after step. "See any difference?", I
> ask. He does.
>
> Now, the silly Finns have given us a useful new toy:
> http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/handwritingcalculator
> It's the coolest touchscreen calculator I've ever seen....
>
> I'm trying to learn Quickwrite, which is ported to the maemo tablets.
> http://mrl.nyu.edu/projects/quikwriting/Quikwrite1.html
> I watched someone "writing" an email with it and am totally fascinated.
> It's going to take a lot of practice, but is like a great game....(c;]
>
> iPhones miss all this. My flashlight is on my keychain....
>
> Have you seen Nokia Labs' new Image Exchange for the Nokia smartphones?
> It uploads the picture to your photo webpage AS YOU TAKE THEM! Totally
> cool....no syncing, no sitting uploading, no iTunes. Runs in background
> on the S60 series phones. S is for Symbian. It's great as long as
> you're not DATA ROAMING IN EUROPE at a $1000/KB...(c;
>
> The lab is always open for us to play:
> http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/applications
> crazy Finns.....
>

I saw that the other day. Friend who has a iPhone was looking at apps.
He wanted to get a few, connects on 3G and finds he cant. Pop up tells him
he must connect thru Wi-Fi. I busted up. Unlimited plan that has limits.

My aunt wanted to by my uncle a iPhone. They do not have Internet where they
live. I had to break the bad news to her that she cant use it to get the
apps. She kept telling me the salesman kept telling her that they could do
anything they wanted with it.

I then dragged my friend that owns one and show her you can't get all apps
from the app store. After a few days the salesman calls her back to tell her
he was going to throw in a 12V charger if she bought it from him. She tells
him what she found out and the guy lied and said there must have been
something wrong with his phone.

You can dl Flashlight apps thru 3G but try to get anything big and that
unlimited plan sure has limits.

"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in news:bXi3l.11094
> [email protected]:
>
>> If you can't see it, you don't need it.
>>
>>
>
> I think the users may be catching the virus from the corporation staff:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44w-RYurbN4
>
> Let's not talk about anything but what's on the list.....to sell iPhones.
>
> Don't question why Apple does or doesn't do. Watch the video. You've
> seen
> this bull**** right on these newsgroups.
>

A lot of people where I work use Bluetooth headsets. They wanted to stream
Pandora from there iPhone to there headsets. They can't. Sounds like the
crap Verizon pulled. Turn off Bluetooth for anything but there headset.

I bought a Razr that left the factory with Bluetooth on. They was a batch
that made it out before Verizon got there hands on them. The battery went
dead about 4 months later. When I went in to get them to replace it they
checked the ser number and saw mine was one of them. The guy tells me that
they wanted to give me a new phone as they were out of battery's at the
time.

I told them no. Call me when they come in and left. Few days later the
company called and said there was a recall on that phone and If I take it to
the store they would give me a new one. When I asked the guy to just give me
a new battery he said they could not. I then asked him if this had anything
to do with Bluetooth being turned on to allow all the things that you turn
off before they get sold and he never would say. I called Motorola and they
never sent out such request.

A few days later is when Verizon sent out the Txt message notice that they
were going from 5 cents to 10 cents and if I don't call I agreed to it. I
called and got out of the plan. Sold the phone and went to AT&T. The reason
why is they did not pull this crap with there phones.

Now with the iPhone out. It's looking like AT&T is using the same playbook
that Verizon used.

In article <[email protected]>, Kevin Weaver
<[email protected]> wrote:

> > it's not excuses. although i see a lot of bluetooth headsets for phone
> > calls, i've yet to see *anyone* using bluetooth headphones for
> > listening to music, whether it's an ipod or cd player or some other
> > device. everyone i see has wired headphones of some sort for music.
> > it's not a high demand feature.
>
> So becuase *you* have not seen anyone then it must not be needed. You need
> to get out more.

i get out plenty. i see people everywhere from airports to walking
around town, and they all have some sort of wired headset. perhaps it
is you who needs to get out more.

> Same as the MMS huh ? you don't have any use for it, so no-one needs it.

i never said whether i need it or not, only that it's not a high demand
item.

> >> Why no comment on the crap battery life not going a day ?
> >
> > depends on usage. most people get more than a day out of it with
> > typical use. you don't think everyone just sits around and surfs on it
> > for hours on end, do you?
>
> Some do. I know what I see with the friends that have them. Full charge in
> the am and it's in the red by 5pm

yes of course some do, just as some can go a week without a recharge.
the point is *most* users don't run it down in a day. the iphone is
targeted at the needs of most people, not every possible scenario for
everyone.

In article <[email protected]>, Larry
<[email protected]> wrote:

> You've never swapped music with a friend's computer over Bluetooth FTP
> during lunch, have you?

copyright infringement.

> You've never Bluetoothed some neat software from your device to your
> friend's device, or vice-versa, during a meeting, have you?

since all iphone software is available on line, there's no need for
that at all.

> You've never been in a Bluetooth network so you can share stuff during the
> seminar, having access to a shared database on someone else's laptop, have
> you?

wifi networks are much, much faster.

> iPhone might as well not even have Bluetooth. It needs a headphone jack.

it has one, and it's even a standard jack, unlike the t-mobile g1.

In article <[email protected]>, Kevin Weaver
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I saw that the other day. Friend who has a iPhone was looking at apps.
> He wanted to get a few, connects on 3G and finds he cant. Pop up tells him
> he must connect thru Wi-Fi. I busted up. Unlimited plan that has limits.

the apps store works just fine over 3g, with the only limit being apps
over 10 meg. the vast majority of apps are under 10 meg, with most
under 1 meg.

"Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I saw that the other day. Friend who has a iPhone was looking at apps.
> He wanted to get a few, connects on 3G and finds he cant. Pop up tells
> him he must connect thru Wi-Fi. I busted up. Unlimited plan that has
> limits.

Oh, no! Iphone has unlimited data, all-you-can-eat! You can download all
the videos Google has stored over 3G with iPhone because it's UNLIMITED.
I've been told that by the fanbois over and over....UNLIMITED.

It's unlimited until you wanna DO SOMETHING.....(c;

>
> My aunt wanted to by my uncle a iPhone. They do not have Internet
> where they live. I had to break the bad news to her that she cant use
> it to get the apps. She kept telling me the salesman kept telling her
> that they could do anything they wanted with it.

Atty General Cuomo from NY needs to attack ATTWS like he did Verizon and
stop the false advertising and false statements to customers.

>
> I then dragged my friend that owns one and show her you can't get all
> apps from the app store. After a few days the salesman calls her back
> to tell her he was going to throw in a 12V charger if she bought it
> from him. She tells him what she found out and the guy lied and said
> there must have been something wrong with his phone.

I never deal with sellphone people without taking a credible witness with
me to hear what I heard....so he can tell it to the mediator or judge.

>
> You can dl Flashlight apps thru 3G but try to get anything big and
> that unlimited plan sure has limits.
>
Hmm...must be filtering on file size. Wonder what the LIMIT is?

"Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Now with the iPhone out. It's looking like AT&T is using the same
> playbook that Verizon used.
>
>
>

I'm not sure even ATT could be that dispicable. I was a VZW customer, too,
when they bought up Cellular One AKA GTE Wireless. I clung to my AMPS
phones as long as I could to keep them from shutting down roaming on Alltel
N of Charleston where Verizon had no service at the time. They couldn't
shut down the AMPS phones or control who they connected to......

Now, Alltel is being consumed by the Beast and I'll probably be forced to
look for another new home before Wimax gets installed to kick their sorry
asses....all of them.

SELLphone companies are the reason it's not already in the USA....