NEWS: Apple iPhone 4 available today amid early reports of hardware issues

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In the Starbucks this morning there were two notebooks, one netbook, and
> one iPad. The notebooks and netbook were all working comfortably. By
> comparison the iPad clearly wasn't comfortable for the user. First he
> sat holding it in his hands like a book. But that way he could only
> swipe with his thumbs, no typing. He laid it down flat on the table to
> type, but then had to lean forward uncomfortably to use it. I asked him
> how he liked it. He said, "It's cool, but I still need to get the hang
> of it." Or find a coffee place with tilted tables.
>
> iPad: An answer in search of a question.

http://store.apple.com/au/product/IP...co=MTc0MjU1ODQ

Problem solved ?

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In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:

> He laid it down flat on the table to
> type, but then had to lean forward uncomfortably to use it. I asked him
> how he liked it. He said, "It's cool, but I still need to get the hang
> of it." Or find a coffee place with tilted tables.

The case that Apple sells tilts it to a comfortable typing position.

--
Charles

John Navas <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> In the Starbucks this morning there were two notebooks, one netbook, and
> one iPad. The notebooks and netbook were all working comfortably. By
> comparison the iPad clearly wasn't comfortable for the user. First he
> sat holding it in his hands like a book. But that way he could only
> swipe with his thumbs, no typing. He laid it down flat on the table to
> type, but then had to lean forward uncomfortably to use it. I asked him
> how he liked it. He said, "It's cool, but I still need to get the hang
> of it." Or find a coffee place with tilted tables.
>
> iPad: An answer in search of a question.
>

Laying flat on the tables, he wasn't looking at the display, he was looking
at the reflections of those bright lights in the ceiling blinding him so he
couldn't see the display.

It's the price you pay for GLITZ!


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Larry

nospam <[email protected]> wrote in news:240620100929510972%
[email protected]d:

> there are many things an ipad does that do not require typing, but you
> can't see that through your hatred.
>

Oh oh...Apologist 27 responds.....

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Larry

Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote in news:KVOUn.791$RC5.342
@newsfe08.iad:

> using the integrated track pad on a netbook.
>

http://www.fidohub.com/product.php?prod_id=56&sort3=

Problem solved. Great touchkit for under $100.....

They got touchkits for many other brands/models. They just plug in where
the camera unplugs and share its USB port, even giving you two extra USB
ports if you want to use them for other toys. The touchscreen sticks to
the original display with doublesided industrial-strength tape. Works
first class and requires only the slightest touch so with finger or stylus
touching the screen DOESN'T push the display back on its hinges. It's
almost too sensitive, some times. The 25-point calibration with the stylus
makes it extremely accurate from edge to edge, top to bottom all the way to
the ends of its range.

No soldering involved. It all just plugs in and uses about 8ma of current
off the 5V bus....less than the camera uses. Comes with drivers for
Windows, almost any flavor incl 7, OSX and many Linux flavors. Works great
with XPSP3 and Ubuntu 9 here....uses very little resources. It's always an
interesting conversation piece with other netbook owners. I've installed
over 30 of them for other people....(c;]

All the other pointing devices still function normally. Even the Samsung
NC10's multitouch pad still functions perfectly without interference from
the touchkit. My external Bluetooth mouse (Logitech) also is fully
functional with the touchkit. Choose any input device you like without
switching between any of them....



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Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics...

Larry

On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 00:18:17 +0000, in
<[email protected]>, Larry <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote in news:KVOUn.791$RC5.342
>@newsfe08.iad:
>
>> using the integrated track pad on a netbook.
>>
>
>http://www.fidohub.com/product.php?prod_id=56&sort3=
>
>Problem solved. Great touchkit for under $100.....
>
>They got touchkits for many other brands/models. They just plug in where
>the camera unplugs and share its USB port, even giving you two extra USB
>ports if you want to use them for other toys. The touchscreen sticks to
>the original display with doublesided industrial-strength tape. Works
>first class and requires only the slightest touch so with finger or stylus
>touching the screen DOESN'T push the display back on its hinges. It's
>almost too sensitive, some times. The 25-point calibration with the stylus
>makes it extremely accurate from edge to edge, top to bottom all the way to
>the ends of its range.
>
>No soldering involved. It all just plugs in and uses about 8ma of current
>off the 5V bus....less than the camera uses. Comes with drivers for
>Windows, almost any flavor incl 7, OSX and many Linux flavors. Works great
>with XPSP3 and Ubuntu 9 here....uses very little resources. It's always an
>interesting conversation piece with other netbook owners. I've installed
>over 30 of them for other people....(c;]
>
>All the other pointing devices still function normally. Even the Samsung
>NC10's multitouch pad still functions perfectly without interference from
>the touchkit. My external Bluetooth mouse (Logitech) also is fully
>functional with the touchkit. Choose any input device you like without
>switching between any of them....

My experience with resistive touch screens has not been terribly good.

--
Best regards,
John

If the iPhone and iPad are really so impressive,
then why do iFans keep making excuses for them?

Charles wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> He laid it down flat on the table to
>> type, but then had to lean forward uncomfortably to use it. I asked him
>> how he liked it. He said, "It's cool, but I still need to get the hang
>> of it." Or find a coffee place with tilted tables.
>
> The case that Apple sells tilts it to a comfortable typing position.
>


And a backpack to carry it and the rest of the shyte, er, kit required
to make it half-way functional...

nospam wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In the Starbucks this morning there were two notebooks, one netbook, and
>> one iPad. The notebooks and netbook were all working comfortably. By
>> comparison the iPad clearly wasn't comfortable for the user. First he
>> sat holding it in his hands like a book. But that way he could only
>> swipe with his thumbs, no typing. He laid it down flat on the table to
>> type, but then had to lean forward uncomfortably to use it. I asked him
>> how he liked it. He said, "It's cool, but I still need to get the hang
>> of it." Or find a coffee place with tilted tables.
>
> on a flight the other day, i sat next to someone with an ipad. he said
> he loved it, but hates the iphone and the rest of apple's products. he
> said he is very productive with it and apple definitely nailed it. he
> uses it for a variety of tasks and occasionally uses his laptop for
> when the ipad isn't ideal.
>
>> iPad: An answer in search of a question.
>
> nope. it's an answer to what a lot of people have been wanting, which
> is why it's selling so well.
Prolly why I like my iped at 1/4 the price

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> My experience with resistive touch screens has not been terribly good.
>
> It's YOU, not the hardware.
>
> That's a common theme in your life, yet you refuse to acknowledge it.


No kidding. He's exceedingly resistive.

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> My experience with resistive touch screens has not been terribly good.
>
> It's YOU, not the hardware.
>
> That's a common theme in your life, yet you refuse to acknowledge it.


No kidding. He's exceedingly resistive.

On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:20:02 -0700, in
<[email protected]>, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:20:05 -0700, in
><[email protected]>, John Navas
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>In the Starbucks this morning there were two notebooks, one netbook, and
>>one iPad. The notebooks and netbook were all working comfortably. By
>>comparison the iPad clearly wasn't comfortable for the user. First he
>>sat holding it in his hands like a book. But that way he could only
>>swipe with his thumbs, no typing. He laid it down flat on the table to
>>type, but then had to lean forward uncomfortably to use it. I asked him
>>how he liked it. He said, "It's cool, but I still need to get the hang
>>of it." Or find a coffee place with tilted tables.
>>
>>iPad: An answer in search of a question.
>
>p.s. That you have to hold it in your hands to view it comfortably is a
>huge issue (for me at least). And it's painful to watch people try to
>"type" on the iPad laid flat, usually with just one or two slow fingers
>on the virtual touch keyboard -- needs Swype -- in marked contrast to
>people comfortably typing on real notebook and netbook keyboards with
>properly angled displays.

Here you go, Apple billboard:
<http://i49.tinypic.com/2jetxn8.jpg>
Ever tried to work that way, including the one finger typing?!
Here's another:
<http://i45.tinypic.com/30ky2ds.jpg>

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Best regards,
John

If the iPhone and iPad are really so impressive,
then why do iFans keep making excuses for them?

On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:19:15 GMT, in
<[email protected]>, " Sunny"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> In the Starbucks this morning there were two notebooks, one netbook, and
>> one iPad. The notebooks and netbook were all working comfortably. By
>> comparison the iPad clearly wasn't comfortable for the user. First he
>> sat holding it in his hands like a book. But that way he could only
>> swipe with his thumbs, no typing. He laid it down flat on the table to
>> type, but then had to lean forward uncomfortably to use it. I asked him
>> how he liked it. He said, "It's cool, but I still need to get the hang
>> of it." Or find a coffee place with tilted tables.
>>
>> iPad: An answer in search of a question.
>
>http://store.apple.com/au/product/IP...co=MTc0MjU1ODQ
>
>Problem solved ?

Not that great a solution from what I've seen (the additional cost
aside) -- this morning, for example, I noticed an iPad user using one of
them. After about 30 mins he started holding it with two hands instead,
so I asked him why. He said the angle wasn't right, so he only used it
when he had to "type" (with one finger).

--
Best regards,
John

If the iPhone and iPad are really so impressive,
then why do iFans keep making excuses for them?

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:19:15 GMT, in
> <[email protected]>, " Sunny"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> In the Starbucks this morning there were two notebooks, one netbook, and
>>> one iPad. The notebooks and netbook were all working comfortably. By
>>> comparison the iPad clearly wasn't comfortable for the user. First he
>>> sat holding it in his hands like a book. But that way he could only
>>> swipe with his thumbs, no typing. He laid it down flat on the table to
>>> type, but then had to lean forward uncomfortably to use it. I asked him
>>> how he liked it. He said, "It's cool, but I still need to get the hang
>>> of it." Or find a coffee place with tilted tables.
>>>
>>> iPad: An answer in search of a question.
>>
>>http://store.apple.com/au/product/IP...co=MTc0MjU1ODQ
>>
>>Problem solved ?
>
> Not that great a solution from what I've seen (the additional cost
> aside) -- this morning, for example, I noticed an iPad user using one of
> them. After about 30 mins he started holding it with two hands instead,
> so I asked him why. He said the angle wasn't right, so he only used it
> when he had to "type" (with one finger).
>
> --
> Best regards,
> John
>
> If the iPhone and iPad are really so impressive,
> then why do iFans keep making excuses for them?

Why do detractors that will never buy one spend all the time *****ing about
them even though they don't know anything about them. I have one it suits
my needs that's all that counts its my money and a free country. It must be
awful to be a troll for your entertainment
theres a lot more in life.

"Tom" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Why do detractors that will never buy one spend all the time *****ing
> about them even though they don't know anything about them. I have
> one it suits my needs that's all that counts its my money and a free
> country. It must be awful to be a troll for your entertainment
> theres a lot more in life.
>

Why do fanboiz constantly feel it is their DUTY to defend the company and
its stupid engineering screwups from anyone simply pointing out the
obvious? How far should the brand loyalty be held? Why are fanboiz so
interested in company profits, total sales volume, etc., when they already
have theirs? That's a great psychological study that needs a grant.

Noone cares about your mistake. It's too late for you. But, alas, there
are thousands of lurkers interested in finding out as much about what's
WRONG with them before forking over all that cash for a mistake. So, the
conversations and OPINIONS should continue as more and more negative things
are found and should certainly be reported here, because the controlled
press will never report anything bad it can avoid of an ADVERTISERS'
PRODUCTS. We on forums and usenet don't suffer from the financial threats
of Apple Computer or any other company to pull add revenues out if we
report what we see to the masses. Usenet has been that way since I can
remember.....from the very beginning of it.

That's why......

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obstetrics...

Larry

Besides, it's great entertainment answering the company shills telling
everyone how wonderful a piece of crap is.....(c;]

In article <[email protected]>, Tom
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Why do detractors that will never buy one spend all the time *****ing about
> them even though they don't know anything about them. I have one it suits
> my needs that's all that counts its my money and a free country. It must be
> awful to be a troll for your entertainment
> theres a lot more in life.

usually it's because they have a vested interest in the competition. or
they're just jealous that they didn't think of it first.