Why I love Pageplus....

On 10/9/2010 10:10 AM, Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 09 Oct 2010 05:54:28 +0000 Larry wrote:
>> Hachiroku<[email protected]> wrote in news:i8otko$skg$2
>> @tioat.net:
>>
>>> What's the "double dialing" thing?
>>>
>>> I think I had to do that with Sprint a long time ago, but it was a
> LONG
>>> time ago!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If you go into a roaming situation, PP forces you to double dial so you
>> absolutely KNOW you are paying the roaming rate. It keeps their
> support
>> from having to argue with irate users too stupid to know what the solid
>> triangle that's always hard to see on a phone means.
>
> Except the "solid triangle" doesn't always work, in my experience. On my
> Samsung phones, the triangle is displayed whenever I leave Denver, even
> if I still have native Verizon coverage, since the system ID in different
> cities doesn't match the ID in Denver.

Unfortunately, when receiving calls, there's no good way to know if it's
roaming or not because the roaming indicator is so inaccurate.

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On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 05:44:38 +0000, Larry wrote:

> Hachiroku <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Do you work for the company?
>>
>> It would appear you haven't hit any Roaming yet. Here in East Overshoe
>> they cover almost everywhere I need to go, except to the west of
>> Brattleboro VT. Then you hit a roaming area, at $0.29 a minute! Still
>> less expensive than almost all the others, but with my Verizon phone
>> it's on the network. I have yet to hit roaming with Verizon.
>>
>> Not to say PagePlus is bad. I activated the phone Verizon gave me when
>> they took over Unicel and am going to take it around with me to see if I
>> hit any roaming areas. So far, from their map, that's the only place I
>> need to go where I would hit roaming. If they were to resolve that they
>> would probably have a customer for quite a while.
>>
>> Other than that it looks like a great deal. Unlimited talk, text and
>> 20MB data from $45. I use about 7-9 MB a month, and Verizon was charging
>> me $29 a month (Palm Treo 755) until I told them I was leaving. Now it's
>> $1.99 a meg, and the $14 is still cheaper when I use it.
>>
>>
>> There's also a small roaming area in Hinsdale NH and out near Jaffery,
>> but in either case if I take a different road I either get no service or
>> no roaming.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> No, I'm not even a Pageplus dealer. I'm retired, and want to stay that
> way. Pageplus just lets me have a cheap phone service so I don't have to
> go back to work and be a slave again.
>
> Pageplus has a 1200 minutes talk, 1200 text messages, 50MB data plan for
> $29.95, discounted 7% at Callingmart.com would cost you $27.85 at the
> current discount PIN rate. Nothing rolls over on those plans, they are 30
> days in length. It's back to paying month to month. I think the roaming
> rate is cheaper on these monthly plans, but can't remember and am too lazy
> to look it up on the PP webpage for you.... I only buy phone service from
> PP and use so little a monthly plan makes no sense until you use up about
> 700-800 minutes per month.
>
> If I had roaming areas, I'd simply activate the voicemail I now have shut
> down and turn off the phone or ignore it in roaming areas and let them
> talk to the voicemail until I got back in range....They can wait.

LOL!

I am a Field Service rep for Dell. I use my phone a LOT and that's why I'm
trying different things. The AT&T service in this area is OK but doesn't
cover everywhere I need to go.

I pared my bill down to $48 a month but had to give up the data. I use
about 7MB a month, and that's about $14, so my bill is going to be ~$55-65
a month. Better than the $94 I was paying. Pageplus offers UNLIMITED for
$45 a month with 20 gigs.

I sometimes use ~1400 minutes a month, but I have Tech support listed as
Friends and Family, so when I call them it's not counted. On a 900 minute
plan I have gone up to ~750 minutes, but when you figure in the F&F I have
hit ~1100-1400 minutes a month. Depends on how long I'm on hold...the 1200
minute plan would be good if I could make sure I keep right about that.

Good idea about using VM in roaming.

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Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote in news:2w1so.801$W96.380
@newsfe08.iad:

> Except the "solid triangle" doesn't always work, in my experience. On
my
> Samsung phones, the triangle is displayed whenever I leave Denver, even
> if I still have native Verizon coverage, since the system ID in
different
> cities doesn't match the ID in Denver.
>
>
>
>

Recent changes at Verizon caused my roaming triangle to light even in
Charleston city.

To reload it all with current data, *22890 SEND and tell it to activate
the phone.

After that's done, *22891 SEND and it will reload the NEW PRL, which my
phone currently says is 52015, which isn't even in the same sequence as
the old PP PRL that was loaded in the phone before....a totally different
number.

The roaming light nonsense went away, but now the phone seems to do a lot
of switching to the Alltel system and my [EV] indicator changes to [D],
which doesn't make any difference to me as I only use it as a phone.
When a call comes in and it's [D], the phone beeps a service tone and
switches to [EV] and starts to ringing. Not sure what it's doing when it
does that but my BALANCE only drops 4c/min, which is the only other
important thing to me, other than having a phone that works fine.

Give that a try to load up the new crazy PRL on VZW's Alltel+Verizon
system. That worked for me...

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...

> ....well, except YOU, of course.

Typical bull**** Larry response. One thing I've noticed over the years,
is that you don't like it when people point out you're wrong. And it's
really pathetic to see a guy in his 60s or 70s lash out like an 8-year-
old child.

--
Steve Sobol, Apple Valley, California, USA
[email protected]

On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 05:54:28 +0000, Larry wrote:

> If you screw up and forget to recharge....and have been a good
> customer....the nice ladies in Ohio, not Bangledesh, CAN and DO allow you
> to call in a little late after your phone goes dead, APOLOGIZE for being a
> dunce and they will RESTORE your old balance when you buy more time....and
> all is forgiven. They don't have to do that, but will if you're CIVIL
> and NICE....(c;]

I have three phones I am carrying right now; my Verizon Palm workhorse,
the LG VX Verizon gave me when they stole Unisys, and a Nokia E61 running
PureTalk. I had the Nokia in my pocket the other day, and I called
PagePlus to activate the LG; had to wait about a minute or so and then she
put the phone on-line.

When I got in the car I paired my Palm to the speakerphone and took off. I
noticed later it wasn't paired, so I held the button. IMMEDIATELY someone
ansered, "Thank you for calling PagePlus, how can I help you?" Ooops. At
this time I'm dumbfounded, and told the guy I had called earlier and I
don't know how I got him. He chuckled and we ended the call.

I push the button again, and AGAIN "Thank you for calling PagePlus, how
can I help you?". Now I'm really stumped, I apologized and hung up. THEN I
realized the Nokia I had used to call PP initially was paired with the
speakerphone!

So, out of three calls, the longest wait I had was about 2 minutes, and I
got people RIGHT HERE that were ready to help me. Now, I have not had any
problems with Verizon's CS, unless you count the nested menus as a
'problem' (I do...)

Why three phones, you wonder? The Verizon Palm is my work phone, it's mine
but I use it for work since it works almost everywhere. The Nokia was an
'experiment' on AT&T's network through PureTalk, and while the CS is also
excellent, the coverage isn't everywhere I need it. I think they're done.

Over the next week I'll carry the PP phone and find out how good their
coverage is. There is only one area I got to, not too frequently, that is
in Roaming, but everywhere else is on network. If I get as good coverage
as I do with Verizon, I think PP haas a new customer.



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On 10/10/2010 8:05 AM, Hachiroku wrote:

> Why three phones, you wonder? The Verizon Palm is my work phone, it's mine
> but I use it for work since it works almost everywhere. The Nokia was an
> 'experiment' on AT&T's network through PureTalk, and while the CS is also
> excellent, the coverage isn't everywhere I need it. I think they're done.

I can't see PureTalk making it. They're still much more expensive than
PagePlus, and they don't offer MMS or data. The good thing is that you
can use any AT&T GSM or unlocked GSM phone with them, and they're a bit
cheaper than other prepaid GSM providers. Still 4x the minimum monthly
cost of PagePlus but with coverage that is not as good. It's rather
strange that the prepaid service with the best coverage by far, is also
the least expensive, but not so well known.

> Over the next week I'll carry the PP phone and find out how good their
> coverage is. There is only one area I got to, not too frequently, that is
> in Roaming, but everywhere else is on network. If I get as good coverage
> as I do with Verizon, I think PP haas a new customer.

Remember, the only way to know for sure if the coverage is roaming is if
you have to do double dialing. I've had the roaming indicator be on and
I've known I was not on Verizon, but it was still not roaming.

On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 13:07:47 -0700, SMS wrote:

> On 10/10/2010 8:05 AM, Hachiroku wrote:
>
>> Why three phones, you wonder? The Verizon Palm is my work phone, it's
>> mine but I use it for work since it works almost everywhere. The Nokia
>> was an 'experiment' on AT&T's network through PureTalk, and while the CS
>> is also excellent, the coverage isn't everywhere I need it. I think
>> they're done.
>
> I can't see PureTalk making it. They're still much more expensive than
> PagePlus, and they don't offer MMS or data. The good thing is that you can
> use any AT&T GSM or unlocked GSM phone with them, and they're a bit
> cheaper than other prepaid GSM providers. Still 4x the minimum monthly
> cost of PagePlus but with coverage that is not as good. It's rather
> strange that the prepaid service with the best coverage by far, is also
> the least expensive, but not so well known.

If I didn't have this job, I wouldn't need data or all the coverage. The
Unlimited plan from PT is $39 a month. Unlimited talk and text, that's
pretty good price.

>
>> Over the next week I'll carry the PP phone and find out how good their
>> coverage is. There is only one area I got to, not too frequently, that
>> is in Roaming, but everywhere else is on network. If I get as good
>> coverage as I do with Verizon, I think PP haas a new customer.
>
> Remember, the only way to know for sure if the coverage is roaming is if
> you have to do double dialing. I've had the roaming indicator be on and
> I've known I was not on Verizon, but it was still not roaming.

Interesting. The particular area I am referring to is listed under PP's
map (which is Verizon's PrePaid coverage map) as being "Roaming".

For everywhere else I go almost daily, it's shown as on network.

Everything is subject to change. I'd bet within a year all roaming will be
defunct.

I hope...

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On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 05:44:38 +0000, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

>Pageplus has a 1200 minutes talk, 1200 text messages, 50MB data plan for
>$29.95, discounted 7% at Callingmart.com would cost you $27.85 at the
>current discount PIN rate.

Except that the last CM discount code expired on October 6th. I'm
sure another is just around the corner, but the OP should set up a
callingmart.com account to insure he gets the discount offers.

Steve Sobol <[email protected]> wrote:

>Typical bull**** Larry response. One thing I've noticed over the years,
>is that you don't like it when people point out you're wrong. And it's
>really pathetic to see a guy in his 60s or 70s lash out like an 8-year-
>old child.

Disagree

Larry has been a good source of info for me

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
>
> Steve Sobol <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Typical bull**** Larry response. One thing I've noticed over the years,
> >is that you don't like it when people point out you're wrong. And it's
> >really pathetic to see a guy in his 60s or 70s lash out like an 8-year-
> >old child.
>
> Disagree
>
> Larry has been a good source of info for me


Of course, if you'd read the entire thread, you would have read where I
said, point-blank, that I DO NOT believe that all of his contributions
are useless. He DOES have useful information to offer.

The problem is when he makes stupid, *incorrect* pronouncements about
carriers he's never used. If said statements are about Sprint or T-Mo,
I'll correct him because I was a customer of Sprint for several years
and I am a current customer of T-Mo, and I am much more familiar with
those companies' policies than he is.

When he's wrong, he's wrong, but $DEITY forbid you ever correct him,
he'll get really pissed.

--
Steve Sobol, Apple Valley, California, USA
[email protected]

My ONLY gripe against Page Plus is the lack of any
candy bar style phones from them!

I hate flip phones and sliders!

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My ONLY gripe against Page Plus is the lack of any
> candy bar style phones from them!
>
> I hate flip phones and sliders!

?

Wouldn't any "non-smartphone" Verizon-capable candy-bar style phone work
with PagePlus?

If you literally mean "from them," i.e., sold by PagePlus, there is no
question that PP sells a very limited set of phones.

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:57:34 -0500, tycho wrote:

>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> My ONLY gripe against Page Plus is the lack of any candy bar style
>> phones from them!
>>
>> I hate flip phones and sliders!
>
> ?
>
> Wouldn't any "non-smartphone" Verizon-capable candy-bar style phone work
> with PagePlus?
>
> If you literally mean "from them," i.e., sold by PagePlus, there is no
> question that PP sells a very limited set of phones.


Hmmm...I want to port over my Palm because I like it so much. I was able
to activate my Verizon LG VX8630 no problem.


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On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:08:18 +0000, Hachiroku wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:57:34 -0500, tycho wrote:
>
>
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> My ONLY gripe against Page Plus is the lack of any candy bar style
>>> phones from them!
>>>
>>> I hate flip phones and sliders!
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Wouldn't any "non-smartphone" Verizon-capable candy-bar style phone work
>> with PagePlus?
>>
>> If you literally mean "from them," i.e., sold by PagePlus, there is no
>> question that PP sells a very limited set of phones.
>
>
> Hmmm...I want to port over my Palm because I like it so much. I was able
> to activate my Verizon LG VX8630 no problem.

OK....<shaking nervously>...I did it. I ported my number from Verizon to
PagePlus...it accepted the ESN from my Palm. Now watch me get sent to the
"roaming hole" three days next week...

I tried calling Voicemail and got "your call cannot be completed. Please
hold the line or try an external operator to complete your call" so the
port is in process...



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On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:11:50 +0000, Hachiroku wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:08:18 +0000, Hachiroku wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:57:34 -0500, tycho wrote:
>>
>>
>>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> My ONLY gripe against Page Plus is the lack of any candy bar style
>>>> phones from them!
>>>>
>>>> I hate flip phones and sliders!
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Wouldn't any "non-smartphone" Verizon-capable candy-bar style phone
>>> work with PagePlus?
>>>
>>> If you literally mean "from them," i.e., sold by PagePlus, there is no
>>> question that PP sells a very limited set of phones.
>>
>>
>> Hmmm...I want to port over my Palm because I like it so much. I was able
>> to activate my Verizon LG VX8630 no problem.
>
> OK....<shaking nervously>...I did it. I ported my number from Verizon to
> PagePlus...it accepted the ESN from my Palm. Now watch me get sent to the
> "roaming hole" three days next week...
>
> I tried calling Voicemail and got "your call cannot be completed. Please
> hold the line or try an external operator to complete your call" so the
> port is in process...

And within <15 minutes it was complete! My same phone number, and my
precious Palm Treo 755 now running on PagePlus! Hope the service is as
good as Verizon! I went with 1200/1200 to start to see what happens...



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