The New MacBook Airs - Video & Specs

In article <[email protected]>, Fred
<[email protected]> wrote:

> > One of those
> > is the ability to compress songs as they are copied.
>
> Please explain to us how the Apple Reality Distortion Field compresses MP3,
> MP4, DivX, Xvid, Realmedia, Windows Media or any of the other large array
> of ALREADY COMPRESSED song files stored on the computers.

since when are song files in divx?

> NOONE stores wav music to computer systems, idiot!

nobody said anyone did, idiot, however, many people do use lossless
which is bigger than it needs to be on an ipod.

> I suppose iTunes MAY be RE-ENCODING MP3 files from large, high quality
> audio to ****ty low quality audio.....like it does to big video files.

it transcodes to 128k aac if the user selects that option and it does
not do anything to video files. 128k aac is not ****ty low quality
either.

> There's no need for high quality stereo at 128Kbps played through a single
> tiny hole with ****speakers in the same channel. But, it would sound poor
> on a good set of headphones most use.....

in other words, what itunes is doing is a good thing. got it.

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JEDIDIAH <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> iTunes does not infact "manage" anything.
>

That's not quite true.....

iTunes manages to stop you from playing DRM media you borrowed.

iTunes manages to stop you from offloading music to your girlfriends'
(plural?) computers and media players.

iTunes manages to stop you from putting your media files off onto the
office computer from your iTunes Nannied device.

iTunes manages to stop you from doing many things the copyright holders
don't want you to do....

Howard Brazee <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> You're right, it doesn't manage. It's just a tool which makes it
> easy for *me* to manage.
>
>

No problem. iTunes 500 new music files to your iPad. Carry the iPad to
the office and download these music files to your Windows desktop so you
can listen to them in your cube.

Sync iTunes at home, come to the office then sync iTunes to the office
desktop in your cube. No problem for the USB memory stick players that
require NO SOFTWARE NANNY.....

Bull****.....pure bull****.

In article <[email protected]>, Fred
<[email protected]> wrote:

> > that's deliberate as a token step to reduce music piracy. it's not hard
> > to get around, but it's enough to make the copyright holders happy.
>
> Who made Jobs a god to save the music industry Jews from piracy?

thanks for confirming my suspicion that fred is really larry.

> Obviously, from the horribly high price of Apple's hardware,

wrong

> the media
> monsters aren't SUBSIDIZING the device YOU had to pay for. Who the hell
> does Apple work for...YOU, the customer....or THEM, their iTunes store
> vendors.

shareholders.

> It just seems Apple needs a little reality check of who's paying for iPads
> and iPhones and iTouch and iPods......

it's not apple that needs the reality check, and certainly not a little
one either.

In article <[email protected]>, JEDIDIAH
<[email protected]> wrote:

> >> iTunes does not infact "manage" anything.
> >
> > You're right, it doesn't manage. It's just a tool which makes it
> > easy for *me* to manage.
>
> No. Not really. It gets in the way and presents a less sophisticated
> interface than the Finder while ignoring some things that would actually
> be useful to manage for the user (like estimated space usage).

it's actually quite a bit more sophisticated than finder (which is not
hard to do ), and it does show how much space is used in each
category.

it's very clear you haven't used itunes much at all.

> > Other players need to offer that kind of functionality to manage as
> > well, as I will still want smart playlists and easy updating. I bet
> > there are some as good at this as iTunes.
>
> If you don't obscure the data, updating is trivial.

nothing is obscured and updating complex playlists is *not* trivial.

> What do you use "smart playlists" for on a music player?

most played songs, least played songs, never played songs (which i
happened to look at the other day and noticed i had quite a few), songs
rated 3 * or higher, fast music, workout music, mellow music, playlists
that combine multiple genres, artists or other tags, just to name a
few. the possibilities are endless, and they update automatically, even
without syncing.

Fred stated in post [email protected] on 11/1/10
2:13 PM:

> Howard Brazee <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> You're right, it doesn't manage. It's just a tool which makes it
>> easy for *me* to manage.
>>
>>
>
> No problem. iTunes 500 new music files to your iPad. Carry the iPad to
> the office and download these music files to your Windows desktop so you
> can listen to them in your cube.
>
> Sync iTunes at home, come to the office then sync iTunes to the office
> desktop in your cube. No problem for the USB memory stick players that
> require NO SOFTWARE NANNY.....
>
> Bull****.....pure bull****.

Ah, so you want to use the iPad like a USB stick. From what I understand it
currently does not work well as one.

As far as nannies... huh? Not even sure what you are trying to get at. I
suspect you do not either.


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In article <[email protected]>, Fred
<[email protected]> wrote:

> iTunes manages to stop you from playing DRM media you borrowed.

duh. so does windows media player and drm'ed content. go ***** at the
content creators who force drm.

> iTunes manages to stop you from offloading music to your girlfriends'
> (plural?) computers and media players.

it does no such thing. if you want to copy music, you can easily copy
it directly from one computer to another, and even authorize the other
computer so that she can play any music that still has drm (music sold
on itunes no longer has drm).

> iTunes manages to stop you from putting your media files off onto the
> office computer from your iTunes Nannied device.

wrong. see above.

> iTunes manages to stop you from doing many things the copyright holders
> don't want you to do....

it's their intellectual property and they get to call the shots.

if people could copy stuff without needing to pay, the creators and
performers would probably not have bothered.

In article <[email protected]>, Fred
<[email protected]> wrote:

> No problem. iTunes 500 new music files to your iPad. Carry the iPad to
> the office and download these music files to your Windows desktop so you
> can listen to them in your cube.

or just use the ipad to listen to the music. you do realize it can do
that, right? why copy the music to the windows computer at all? not to
mention that installing anything not authorized by the company who owns
the work computer can get you fired in some places.

> Bull****.....pure bull****.

yes, that's what your posts are.

On 11/1/10 4:13 PM, in article 011120101413282132%[email protected],
"nospam" <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, Fred
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> that's deliberate as a token step to reduce music piracy. it's not hard
>>> to get around, but it's enough to make the copyright holders happy.
>>
>> Who made Jobs a god to save the music industry Jews from piracy?
>
> thanks for confirming my suspicion that fred is really larry.
>
The idiot's common mis*****ing of the word "none" should have stood out like
a red thumb on a Waffle House waitress.

On 2010-11-01, Richard B. Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 11/1/2010 1:45 PM, Howard Brazee wrote:
>> On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 10:13:37 -0700, nospam<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> nope. the easiest is dropping an ipod into a dock and having it
>>> automatically copy whatever you want.
>>
>> When you synchronize the iPod with iTunes, do the play counts of the
>> iTunes songs increment to match what was played on the iPod?
>>
>> Just curious.
>>
>
> How about dropping the MacBook crud from the cellular phone groups?
> Please????

How about employing a thread filter or a killfile.

This is 2010.

There simply isn't any need to whine about this sort of thing.

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On 2010-11-01, nospam <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, JEDIDIAH
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >> iTunes does not infact "manage" anything.
>> >
>> > You're right, it doesn't manage. It's just a tool which makes it
>> > easy for *me* to manage.
>>
>> No. Not really. It gets in the way and presents a less sophisticated
>> interface than the Finder while ignoring some things that would actually
>> be useful to manage for the user (like estimated space usage).
>
> it's actually quite a bit more sophisticated than finder (which is not
> hard to do ), and it does show how much space is used in each
> category.
>
> it's very clear you haven't used itunes much at all.

No. It shows what's already on the device.

Your arrogant presumption is of course entirely incorrect.

>
>> > Other players need to offer that kind of functionality to manage as
>> > well, as I will still want smart playlists and easy updating. I bet
>> > there are some as good at this as iTunes.
>>
>> If you don't obscure the data, updating is trivial.
>
> nothing is obscured and updating complex playlists is *not* trivial.
>
>> What do you use "smart playlists" for on a music player?
>
> most played songs, least played songs, never played songs (which i
> happened to look at the other day and noticed i had quite a few), songs
> rated 3 * or higher, fast music, workout music, mellow music, playlists
> that combine multiple genres, artists or other tags, just to name a

Most of that sounds like nothing that needs smart playlists and actually
would require a good deal of maintenance to deal with to get the desired
functionality anyways.

That's the catch with most metadata.

Plus you end up with something else that can't be visually manipulated.

[deletia]

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On 2010-11-01, nospam <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Fred
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No problem. iTunes 500 new music files to your iPad. Carry the iPad to
>> the office and download these music files to your Windows desktop so you
>> can listen to them in your cube.
>
> or just use the ipad to listen to the music. you do realize it can do
> that, right? why copy the music to the windows computer at all? not to

Well, the obvious thing would be that your machine at work probably
has enough storage capacity to host all of your music while your portable
device does not. This would be another mark against the iThing though.

A cheap USB drive from Walmart would do the trick and be a pretty
simple/easy thing to deal with.

[deletia]

The means to play your music has been standard on WinDOS PCs since
before decent sized iPods were commonplace. The only real problem there
might be corporate policies that prevent you from music on your work
machine or plugging in a USB drive. Although companies of that sort are
miserable to work for anyways.

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In article <[email protected]>, JEDIDIAH
<[email protected]> wrote:

> >> No. Not really. It gets in the way and presents a less sophisticated
> >> interface than the Finder while ignoring some things that would actually
> >> be useful to manage for the user (like estimated space usage).
> >
> > it's actually quite a bit more sophisticated than finder (which is not
> > hard to do ), and it does show how much space is used in each
> > category.
> >
> > it's very clear you haven't used itunes much at all.
>
> No. It shows what's already on the device.

actually, it shows much more than what's on the device, and someone who
used itunes would know that.

> Your arrogant presumption is of course entirely incorrect.

i'm not the one who keeps making statements about itunes that are
demonstrably false.

> >> What do you use "smart playlists" for on a music player?
> >
> > most played songs, least played songs, never played songs (which i
> > happened to look at the other day and noticed i had quite a few), songs
> > rated 3 * or higher, fast music, workout music, mellow music, playlists
> > that combine multiple genres, artists or other tags, just to name a
>
> Most of that sounds like nothing that needs smart playlists and actually
> would require a good deal of maintenance to deal with to get the desired
> functionality anyways.

require maintenance? a couple of clicks to set up and it's done. like i
said before, you haven't used itunes much, if at all.

> That's the catch with most metadata.

are you saying the metadata is not correct? maybe yours is a mess, and
if so, you lose out on a lot of functionality. no wonder you're so
fixated on doing things the hard way.

> Plus you end up with something else that can't be visually manipulated.

it's a list of songs, wtf were you planning on doing?

In article <[email protected]>, JEDIDIAH
<[email protected]> wrote:

> >> No problem. iTunes 500 new music files to your iPad. Carry the iPad to
> >> the office and download these music files to your Windows desktop so you
> >> can listen to them in your cube.
> >
> > or just use the ipad to listen to the music. you do realize it can do
> > that, right? why copy the music to the windows computer at all? not to
>
> Well, the obvious thing would be that your machine at work probably
> has enough storage capacity to host all of your music while your portable
> device does not. This would be another mark against the iThing though.

assuming that the employer even allows that.

> A cheap USB drive from Walmart would do the trick and be a pretty
> simple/easy thing to deal with.

great, go buy one of those.

if you're going to copy all the music to the work computer why the hell
do you even need an ipod?

Howard Brazee wrote on [Mon, 01 Nov 2010 11:52:09 -0600]:
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:45:46 +0000 (UTC), Justin <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>There are plenty of other issues with iTunes, it is slow, it is a hog,
>
> I don't care about it being a hog - disk space is cheap. It does
> sync slowly - but on my machine, it compresses the music when it
> copies to my iPod, so I would expect it to do so.

It's a CPU hog.

>>it install several "helper" services that run all the time whether you
>>have a device associated with them or not or whether iTunes is even running
>>or not. The fact that there is a new version of iTunes anytime there is
>>an OS upgrade for the iPhone is also pretty ridiculous.
>
> So it upgrades a lot. That's not ridiculous - except for one
> arrogant feature, which is that Apple expects me not to move my iTunes
> shortcuts on my XP machine.

No, it never upgrades, it reinstalls. Instead of downloading and updating
5-10MB of data, the whole thing needs to be downloaded and installed