The New MacBook Airs - Video & Specs

Apple continues to crush the old Windows & Linux machines with perfectly
crafted products. The new 11 & 13 inch MacBook Airs will wipe out the
rest of the Windows and Linux netbook market.

A wonderful show!

If you don't like to see advanced software, jump ahead to about 70
minutes in, otherwise just watch the whole thing... it really provides a
glimpse into the future.

http://www.apple.com/apple-events/october-2010/

Short Version:

http://www.apple.com/macbookair/#macbook-air-video

Specs Here:

http://www.apple.com/macbookair/specs.html

The new toys are here, amazing!

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...ly/macbook_air

oxford

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On Oct 24, 2:26*pm, Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:
> Apple continues to crush the old Windows & Linux machines with perfectly
> crafted products.


And, from what I've read, products that use proprietary iterations
(broaching the question: Is the Mac really just a PC clone now?).

> The new 11 & 13 inch MacBook Airs will wipe out the
> rest of the Windows and Linux netbook market.
>
> A wonderful show!
>
> If you don't like to see advanced software, jump ahead to about 70
> minutes in, otherwise just watch the whole thing... it really provides a
> glimpse into the future.
>
> http://www.apple.com/apple-events/october-2010/
>
> Short Version:
>
> http://www.apple.com/macbookair/#macbook-air-video
>
> Specs Here:
>
> http://www.apple.com/macbookair/specs.html
>
> The new toys are here, amazing!
>
> http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...ly/macbook_air
>
> oxford

On 10/24/2010 1:31 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Oct 24, 2:26 pm, Oxford<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Apple continues to crush the old Windows& Linux machines with perfectly
>> crafted products.
>
>
> And, from what I've read, products that use proprietary iterations
> (broaching the question: Is the Mac really just a PC clone now?).

No, the PC clones don't run OS-X. That's what Apple's value proposition
is, though with Windows 7 it's less of a selling point than when it was
competing against Vista or XP.

In terms of internal components, Apple is somewhat of a PC Clone, but
for better or worse Apple doesn't push the limit in terms of the latest
processors or graphics. The MacBook air is a difficult design because of
the the thermal requirements, yet there are comparably sized laptops
already using later processors.

Acer came out with a 3.1 pound Core i7 (also available in core i5 and
core i7) design with an 11.6" screen, comparable battery life to the
Macbook Air, a real (non-chiclet) keyboard, a real Ethernet port, and a
500GB hard drive (versus 64GB or 128GB of flash), an HDMI port, and a
VGA port.

"http://www.amazon.com/Acer-TimelineX-AS1830T-68U118-11-6-Inch-Display/dp/B0042X8W0Q"

The thing is that the Acer machine can easily be your primary computer
as it's fast enough, had a good keyboard, and has sufficient
connectivity, including an Ethernet port and HDMI. The MacBook Air, as
nice as it is, is a machine to be used primarily for travel when you're
away from your faster primary computer that has more storage and
connectivity. Is the 0.8 pound difference between the MacBook Air and
the Acer Timeline X worth giving up the speed, expandability, and real
keyboard? Plus all the dongles you need just to get stuff like HDMI and
VGA on the Air? Maybe the new Lion version of OS-X is going to make it
all worthwhile, but for now Windows 7 trumps OS-X in functionality.

On 10/24/2010 2:18 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> Oxford<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Apple continues to crush the old Windows& Linux machines with perfectly
>> crafted products.
>
> Yes--6 years after Sony did it:
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20020535-64.html

But not at a price like Apple is offering.

In reality, the Acer Timeline X 11.6" machine is the real competition
for the MacBook Air 11.6". A bit heavier, but it has a much better
keyboard, a high capacity hard drive, a much faster processor, plus
HDMI, VGA and Ethernet ports.

On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:25:51 -0700, SMS wrote:

> On 10/24/2010 2:18 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>> In article<[email protected]>,
>> Oxford<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Apple continues to crush the old Windows& Linux machines with
>>> perfectly crafted products.
>>
>> Yes--6 years after Sony did it:
>>
>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20020535-64.html
>
> But not at a price like Apple is offering.
>
> In reality, the Acer Timeline X 11.6" machine is the real competition
> for the MacBook Air 11.6". A bit heavier, but it has a much better
> keyboard, a high capacity hard drive, a much faster processor, plus
> HDMI, VGA and Ethernet ports.

Why has this debate been cross-posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy? Just
curious.

--
RonB
Registered Linux User #498581
CentOS 5.5 or VectorLinux Deluxe 6.0

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Apple continues to crush the old Windows & Linux machines with perfectly
> > crafted products.
>
> Yes--6 years after Sony did it:
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20020535-64.html

No, Sony hasn't caught up to the MacBook Airs yet, even back in 2007
they were still in the "walkman" stage when it comes to ultralight
laptops don't forget.

> Before 2010 MacBook Air, there was 2004 Sony
>
> Though a moot point now for consumers, in 2004 Sony came out with a
> razor-thin wedge-shaped laptop that was a progenitor of the MacBook Air,
> particularly Apple's 2010 incarnation...

But it wasn't near as powerful, feature rich or cost effective. Plus it
still ran Windows, so nobody bought it.

Check out what Sony is up against...

http://www.apple.com/macbookair/design.html

We're talking high quality Elmo, not something from Sony...

"Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Why don't you keep your Mac advocacy crap out of the cellphone NG's, Oxy...

not sure what you mean? apple now controls all phones, tvs, music,
computers, video, so it's important to keep everyone informed at the
same time... why are you against that?

you'll move up to all apple products in the next 4 years, so don't worry!

----

> Apple continues to crush the old Windows & Linux machines with perfectly
> crafted products. The new 11 & 13 inch MacBook Airs will wipe out the
> rest of the Windows and Linux netbook market.
>
> A wonderful show!
>
> If you don't like to see advanced software, jump ahead to about 70
> minutes in, otherwise just watch the whole thing... it really provides a
> glimpse into the future.
>
> http://www.apple.com/apple-events/october-2010/
>
> Short Version:
>
> http://www.apple.com/macbookair/#macbook-air-video
>
> Specs Here:
>
> http://www.apple.com/macbookair/specs.html
>
> The new toys are here, amazing!
>
> http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...ly/macbook_air
>
> oxford

In article
<apony-C7AD2E.15524424102010@dialup-4.167.115.65.dial1.houston1.level3.n
et>, Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Why don't you keep your Mac advocacy crap out of the cellphone NG's, Oxy...
>
> not sure what you mean? apple now controls all phones, tvs, music,
> computers, video,

uh, no they don't.

> so it's important to keep everyone informed at the
> same time... why are you against that?

because you're full of ****.

Steve Carroll <[email protected]> wrote:

> from what I've read, products that use proprietary iterations

it uses the new mSATA spec, so Apple's firm decision to only support
open hardware and software remains intact. check it out:

http://techunwrapped.com/2010/10/23/jp102210/

RonB <[email protected]> wrote:

> Why has this debate been cross-posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy? Just
> curious.

it's probably because Linux users love Apple hardware and software,
check out what just happened!

http://www.apple.com/macbookair/software.html

OSX is the world's top UNIX by over 11 to 1, so it's helpful for Linux
users to see what is coming to them in the next 6+ years.

now you know!

RonB wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 14:25:51 -0700, SMS wrote:
>
>> On 10/24/2010 2:18 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>> In article<[email protected]>,
>>> Oxford<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Apple continues to crush the old Windows& Linux machines with
>>>> perfectly crafted products.
>>>
>>> Yes--6 years after Sony did it:
>>>
>>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20020535-64.html
>>
>> But not at a price like Apple is offering.
>>
>> In reality, the Acer Timeline X 11.6" machine is the real competition
>> for the MacBook Air 11.6". A bit heavier, but it has a much better
>> keyboard, a high capacity hard drive, a much faster processor, plus
>> HDMI, VGA and Ethernet ports.
>
> Why has this debate been cross-posted to comp.os.linux.advocacy? Just
> curious.
>

Because OxRetard, one of the dumbest posters ever, decided that people
absolutely had to see how incredibly stupid a typical Mac user is

He succeeded, quite nicely.
--
Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change,
the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the
bodies of those I had to kill because they pissed me off.

nospam <[email protected]> wrote:

> > not sure what you mean? apple now controls all phones, tvs, music,
> > computers, video,
>
> uh, no they don't.

what? they don't? They obviously control the direction of all cell
phones, they announced the AppleTV just a month ago and now have sold
over 400,000 units, so they control the direction of Television. For
Music, they control over 72%, with OSX they are the leader in OSes and
software development of all platforms, so again they control what
everyone does. Now Movies, TVs and Video is primarily done through Apple
iOS devices, so you seem uniformed... learn to use facts like I do, it
will help as you discover the larger world.

In article
<apony-EB6048.16073524102010@dialup-4.167.115.65.dial1.houston1.level3.n
et>, Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:

> > > not sure what you mean? apple now controls all phones, tvs, music,
> > > computers, video,
> >
> > uh, no they don't.
>
> what? they don't?

nope

> They obviously control the direction of all cell phones,

nope

> they announced the AppleTV just a month ago and now have sold
> over 400,000 units,

250k

<http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/18/a...in-sales-says-
steve-jobs/>

> so they control the direction of Television.

not even remotely close

> For Music, they control over 72%,

no

> with OSX they are the leader in OSes and
> software development of all platforms,

no

> so again they control what everyone does.

maybe they control you but they certainly don't control what everyone
does

> Now Movies, TVs and Video is primarily done through Apple
> iOS devices,

nope again

> so you seem uniformed...

wrong

> learn to use facts like I do,

no thanks

> it will help as you discover the larger world.

already discovered it

Peter Köhlmann <[email protected]> wrote:

> Because Oxford, one of the top posters ever, decided that people
> absolutely hate to see how incredibly smart a typical Mac user is

poor Peter... still hasn't mastered how to do a usenet follow up, he
always has errors.

everyone on usenet calls him the "dumb bitter german". once he touches
the 11 inch macbook air his mood will change... it makes german
engineering look like drunk babies using legos.

check it out:

http://www.apple.com/macbookair/features.html

it's smaller than it appears, but still has a full sized keyboard, sweet!

an engineering marvel...

Steve Carroll wrote:
> Oxford wrote:
>> Apple continues to crush the old Windows & Linux machines with perfectly
>> crafted products.
>
> And, from what I've read, products that use proprietary iterations
> (broaching the question: Is the Mac really just a PC clone now?).

*All* recent macs are PCs, making the Mac vs PC debates hilarious and/or
ridiculous depending on the mood at the time.

Regards.