Bye bye Aircard....

On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:31:10 -0500, in
<[email protected]>, "(PeteCresswell)"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Per John Navas:
>>
>>It doesn't -- the screen varies between brands and even changes within
>>brands.
>
>Still seems possible to me. To Wit: It would adapt to each
>screen. The URL could be the key and, as long as that particular
>screen stayed the same....

Possible, but not terribly practical.
WISPr <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WISPr> would be a better solution.

--
John

"If the only tool you have is a hammer,
you will see every problem as a nail."
-Abraham Maslow

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On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:40:30 -0700, in
<[email protected]>, Todd Allcock
<[email protected]> wrote:

>At 17 Nov 2010 14:04:53 -0800 John Navas wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:41:59 -0700, in
>> <[email protected]>, Todd Allcock
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >Part of it is the hassle factor. Switching WiFi on takes several screen
>> >taps on a smartphone,
>>
>> One tap on my Nexus One (Android).
>
>Nice. It takes three on my WinMo 6, (tap the connection status icon at
>the top of the screen, tap "Connection Manager," tap the WiFi toggle,) six
>(ish) on my WP7, (tap/push Home button, slide to app list, scroll down to
>"settings," tap, tap WiFi, tap toggle switch,) and four on my wife's
>iPhone- press home, tap settings, WiFi and slide toggle.

Android since 1.6 (Donut) has a nice Power Control Widget that can be
placed on the Home screen to control:
* Wi-Fi
* Bluetooth
* GPS
* Sync
* Screen Brightness
There are also alternative app widgets.

>> >Plus, WiFi is murder on your phone
>> >battery if you forget to turn it off after.
>> iFi
>> Not on my Nexus One. YMMV.
>
>Time to color me skeptical. Between several WinMo and iPhones, I've yet
>to see one that WiFi didn't significantly increase battery usage.
>Particularly HTC-built devices, of which the N1 is, IIRC.

I'm talking about Wi-Fi turned on but not in use.
If you like, I can show you a typical battery use profile.

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern’s Law of Suspended Judgement]

On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:37:42 -0800, in
<[email protected]>, Steve Sobol
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:12:16 -0800
>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >Ok, now cite a real web host. GoDaddy's hosting is complete crap.
>>
>> Actually pretty good, especially considering the price.
>> I've been using it for years, so I have a pretty good idea what I'm
>> talking about.
>
>Really? I've used it before too. It's useless for anything beyond a very simple website.

It's Apache plus SSH and a wealth of content server tools.
What mainstream thing can't it do?

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern’s Law of Suspended Judgement]

On 11/17/2010 5:37 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:12:16 -0800
> John Navas<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>> Ok, now cite a real web host. GoDaddy's hosting is complete crap.
>>
>> Actually pretty good, especially considering the price.
>> I've been using it for years, so I have a pretty good idea what I'm
>> talking about.
>
> Really? I've used it before too. It's useless for anything beyond a very simple website.

It's no real bargain compared to a real web hosting company either. I
have a lot of domains through godaddy, and they're always trying to push
their hosting service, but I'll stick with a real web hosting company
thank you.

SMS <[email protected]> wrote in news:4ce482cd$0$22172
[email protected]:

> On 11/17/2010 3:40 PM, Todd Allcock wrote:
>
>> Time to color me skeptical. Between several WinMo and iPhones, I've
yet
>> to see one that WiFi didn't significantly increase battery usage.
>> Particularly HTC-built devices, of which the N1 is, IIRC.
>
> Someone on the NexusOne forum did a long battery test first with Wi-Fi
> on (and not going to sleep but with no activity) and 3G data off,
versus
> Wi-Fi off and 3G connected (but without any activity). The Wi-Fi with
no
> activity used much less power than the 3G with no activity.
>
> I didn't see any test that compared battery life of Wi-Fi versus 3G
> doing stress testing.
>

That makes sense.....

My A600 Cricket USB aircard runs very warm in operation, so I assume it
uses a good bit of current.

The new Alfa high-powered USB wifi adapter barely gets warm to the touch,
even watching ESPN3 sports events while chatting on Skype on a wifi
across a parking lot. Either it's amazingly efficient, which I doubt, or
the very short burst wifi transmissions at the high power setting use
much less average current than the Cricket aircard.

On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 12:54:27 -0800, in
<[email protected]>, SMS
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 11/16/2010 12:03 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:23:51 -0800
>> John Navas<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Incorrect speculation and supposition (as usual): Go Daddy (the world's
>>> largest hosting provider) offers "unlimited bandwidth" for as little as
>>> $3/mo.
>>
>> Ok, now cite a real web host. GoDaddy's hosting is complete crap.
>
>And of course GoDaddy actually doesn't offer unlimited bandwidth and
>storage at $3 a month. Their regular price for unlimited bandwidth-only,
>with only 10GB of storage gets down to $3 a month, on-sale, if you
>prepay for 36 months in advance.

Less 25% if you have a coupon. But of course you don't know about that,
since you have no real experience, just reading the website.

>The GoDaddy unlimited bandwidth/unlimited storage product is presently
>on sale for $8 a month if you pay for a year in advance. 10GB is not a
>lot of storage if you have several different web sites on the same
>account.

Nonsense. Typical websites are on the order of megabytes, not
gigabytes. Tell us how much storage your little websites are serving.

>Pretty clever of our favorite troll to leave out the storage
>part of the equation!

Not so clever of you to try to move the goalposts by dragging in an
irrelevant issue.

>But all that's immaterial because you're absolutely right, you really do
>_not_ want to use Godaddy as your hosting company.

Because ... ? As usual, nothing but vague hand waving.

>If you want something
>cheaper than $8 a month there's always hostmonster.com or bluehost.com,
>both of which are better than godaddy, and offer unlimited
>bandwidth/unlimited storage for less than $8 a month. iPage is $3.50 a
>month, but I don't know anything about them (ipage.com).

Or the others either, obviously, whereas I've used a number of them.

>All of the hosting companies with "unlimited" have stuff in their TOS
>that defines what "unlimited" really means. ...

Also not true.

--
John

"It is better to sit in silence and appear ignorant,
than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." -Mark Twain
"A little learning is a dangerous thing." -Alexander Pope
"Being ignorant is not so much a shame,
as being unwilling to learn." -Benjamin Franklin

On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:29:45 -0800, in
<[email protected]>, SMS
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 11/17/2010 5:37 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:12:16 -0800
>> John Navas<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>> Ok, now cite a real web host. GoDaddy's hosting is complete crap.
>>>
>>> Actually pretty good, especially considering the price.
>>> I've been using it for years, so I have a pretty good idea what I'm
>>> talking about.
>>
>> Really? I've used it before too. It's useless for anything beyond a very simple website.
>
>It's no real bargain compared to a real web hosting company either. I
>have a lot of domains through godaddy, and they're always trying to push
>their hosting service, but I'll stick with a real web hosting company
>thank you.

Are you really so clueless you don't see the contradiction is what you
wrote?

Go Daddy actually provides decent service for about half the cost of the
hosting alternatives you've mentioned for comparable capabilities, which
you might know if you'd ever actually used them, instead of just relying
on your reading of their websites.

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern’s Law of Suspended Judgement]

In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:

> >> How many sales are because people want the iPhone for its cool factor or
> >> for what it actually is?
> >
> >The reason I'd opt for an iPhone versus a Droid phone, given the choice,
> >would be the whole ecosystem of accessories and applications. Android
> >may eventually catch up, but right now there's a _lot_ of apps that are
> >not available on Android at all, and others where the Android app is not
> >as good as the iPhone app.
>
> Again, not a single example.
> You make it very hard to take you seriously.

you don't care about examples.

> >The lack of a standardized docking connector
> >means that there will not be the types of accessories that are available
> >for the iPhone.
>
> Actually needed accessories are readily available.

not as much as with the iphone.

In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:

> >Even though Android phones are now outselling the iPhone, there are so
> >many different models, most without any dock connectors at all, and some
> >with a proprietary connector, that none will never have the sales
> >volumes to warrant products it can dock to. Look at all the great
> >accessories available for the iPod, then look at the Android phones
> >where such accessories are virtually non-existent.
>
> Because there is no need for them.

if there's no need, why is there such a huge, huge business for ipod
accessories?

> If your thesis were right, then Android would be at a disadvantage,
> instead of taking over the smartphone market.

just because one aspect of android is worse does not mean all aspects
are worse and that it will fail as a platform. how absurd can you get.

On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:08:33 -0800, in
<[email protected]>, SMS
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 11/18/2010 6:58 PM, Justin wrote:
>
>> How many sales are because people want the iPhone for its cool factor or
>> for what it actually is?
>
>The reason I'd opt for an iPhone versus a Droid phone, given the choice,
>would be the whole ecosystem of accessories and applications. Android
>may eventually catch up, but right now there's a _lot_ of apps that are
>not available on Android at all, and others where the Android app is not
>as good as the iPhone app.

Again, not a single example.
You make it very hard to take you seriously.

>The lack of a standardized docking connector
>means that there will not be the types of accessories that are available
>for the iPhone.

Actually needed accessories are readily available.

--
John

"Assumption is the mother of all screw ups."
[Wethern’s Law of Suspended Judgement]

On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:47:12 -0800, in
<[email protected]>, SMS
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 11/18/2010 4:25 PM, nospam wrote:
>> In article<[email protected]>, John Navas
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>> And of course you plug in your phone when you're in the car when it's
>>>> connecting via Bluetooth, just as you plug in your phone when it's
>>>> connected to the AUX jack. The problem with the headphone-out to AUX-in
>>>> approach is that the sound quality is not as good as with Bluetooth or
>>>> with an iPod dock.
>>>
>>> Wrong again(tm): Sound quality is indistinguishable.
>>
>> although he's wrong, so are you. direct wire is better and the
>> difference is noticeable.
>
>You're missing the point. Yes, direct wire from line-out to line-in is
>better than Bluetooth, _if_ the phone is well-designed for noise
>immunity. As Todd pointed out, while the iPhone does a good job with
>direct wire, not all phones are as well designed. The HTC phones are
>particularly bad in terms of noise when using direct wire. Nexus One
>owners complain about it, as do owners of other HTC phones.

Wrong again(tm): HTC phones are fine with a good charger.
My Nexus One has no noise on my car charger.
But of course you lack any real experience with any HTC Android phone,
instead relying on your usual supposition.

>If the phone
>is not well designed, like many of the HTC phones, then you're better
>off with Bluetooth if you're going to charge the phone while it's
>connected to the AUX jack with a wire.
>
><http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=49e06e568fdc8ad0&hl=en>

"I say it on the Internet so it must be true!" That one Internet
anecdote proves nothing other than how rare such reports are.

Any phone, iPhone included, can have noise when there's a fault in the
car's electrical system or if the charger is cheap/faulty.

--
John

"Facts? We ain't got no facts. We don't need no facts. I don't have
to show you any stinking facts!" [with apologies to John Huston]

On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:54:52 -0800, in
<[email protected]>, SMS
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 11/18/2010 8:34 PM, Justin wrote:
>> SMS wrote on [Thu, 18 Nov 2010 19:08:33 -0800]:
>>> On 11/18/2010 6:58 PM, Justin wrote:
>>>
>>>> How many sales are because people want the iPhone for its cool factor or
>>>> for what it actually is?
>>>
>>> The reason I'd opt for an iPhone versus a Droid phone, given the choice,
>>> would be the whole ecosystem of accessories and applications. Android
>>> may eventually catch up, but right now there's a _lot_ of apps that are
>>> not available on Android at all, and others where the Android app is not
>>> as good as the iPhone app. The lack of a standardized docking connector
>>> means that there will not be the types of accessories that are available
>>> for the iPhone.
>>
>> You mean more propietary lock in accessories?
>
>Yes, the iPhone dock connector is proprietary, but a huge industry of
>after-market products has sprung up around it. It's become a de-facto
>standard. Without a standardized dock connector, individual Android
>phones won't have the volumes to entice any after-market manufacturers
>to bother with it. Try buying a car stereo or home stereo with an
>Android dock built in. You can't because they don't exist.

I can't imagine caring.

>Some people simply don't understand how important the "ecosystem" is in
>driving sales for the iPhone/iPod. There are hundred of iPod/iPhone
>accessories, all of which work because of the de-facto standard dock
>connector.

Pure supposition on your part.

>Even though Android phones are now outselling the iPhone, there are so
>many different models, most without any dock connectors at all, and some
>with a proprietary connector, that none will never have the sales
>volumes to warrant products it can dock to. Look at all the great
>accessories available for the iPod, then look at the Android phones
>where such accessories are virtually non-existent.

Because there is no need for them.

If your thesis were right, then Android would be at a disadvantage,
instead of taking over the smartphone market.

>Micro-USB is fine for data transfer and charging, but what's really
>needed is some sort of open standard for a dock that all Android
>manufacturers adhere to.

Nonsense.

--
John

"It is better to sit in silence and appear ignorant,
than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." -Mark Twain
"A little learning is a dangerous thing." -Alexander Pope
"Being ignorant is not so much a shame,
as being unwilling to learn." -Benjamin Franklin

nospam wrote on [Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:41:00 -0500]:
> In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >Even though Android phones are now outselling the iPhone, there are so
>> >many different models, most without any dock connectors at all, and some
>> >with a proprietary connector, that none will never have the sales
>> >volumes to warrant products it can dock to. Look at all the great
>> >accessories available for the iPod, then look at the Android phones
>> >where such accessories are virtually non-existent.
>>
>> Because there is no need for them.
>
> if there's no need, why is there such a huge, huge business for ipod
> accessories?

Because it's the only method of connecting to an ipod maybe.

In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 07:10:11 -0800, in
> <[email protected]>, SMS
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >That's true, my daughter went on a one week canoeing trip this summer.
> >While those with iPhones couldn't make calls because there was only
> >sporadic Verizon coverage and no AT&T coverage, ...
>
> Nonsense.

how is it that you know where his daughter went camping and what kind
of cell service she had?

you're so full of ****.

In article <[email protected]>, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:

> >> Micro USB can power the phone and allow access to media on the phone
> >> Bluetooth also providers music and phone use...
> >
> >It can, but it's not as functional as what's evolved for the iPod.
>
> Wrong again(tm): USB is far more capable than the iPhone connector.

complete utter bull****.