Self Charging phones?

On 12/5/10 PDT 9:57 AM, Steve Sobol wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 02:58:25 -0500 Wes Groleau<[email protected]> wrote:

>> About a year ago, someone asked me if he could put a generator
>> in a hybrid car to keep the battery charged, so that he would
>> never need to buy gasoline. :-)
>>
>> No, he isn't stupid, he's just young. One little hint about
>> conversion losses and he figured out that it wouldn't work.
>
> Also, wouldn't he need to put gas (or diesel fuel) into the generator at some point?

No! It'd run off a small nuclear generator. Maybe a fuel cell, though I
really don't know how it's replenished.

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Wes Groleau <[email protected]> wrote in news:idfgn3$obl$1
@news.eternal-september.org:

> One little hint about
> conversion losses and he figured out that it wouldn't work.
>

.....well, at least without gas it won't....(c;]

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"Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 02:58:25 -0500
> Wes Groleau <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > About a year ago, someone asked me if he could put a generator
> > in a hybrid car to keep the battery charged, so that he would
> > never need to buy gasoline. :-)
> >
> > No, he isn't stupid, he's just young. One little hint about
> > conversion losses and he figured out that it wouldn't work.
>
> Also, wouldn't he need to put gas (or diesel fuel) into the generator at
some point?

I'm guessing he meant it would re-generate electricity from things like the
wheels going around, braking, etc. ... just like all normal cars do to
recharge their batteries already.

On 12/5/2010 12:57 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 02:58:25 -0500
> Wes Groleau<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>> About a year ago, someone asked me if he could put a generator
>> in a hybrid car to keep the battery charged, so that he would
>> never need to buy gasoline. :-)
>>
>> No, he isn't stupid, he's just young. One little hint about
>> conversion losses and he figured out that it wouldn't work.
>
> Also, wouldn't he need to put gas (or diesel fuel) into the generator at some point?
>

That would be just asking for a fire!!!

Fuel should go in the fuel tank!

I know that you meant well but what you said. . . .

On 12/5/2010 3:03 PM, Your Name wrote:
> "Steve Sobol"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 02:58:25 -0500
>> Wes Groleau<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> About a year ago, someone asked me if he could put a generator
>>> in a hybrid car to keep the battery charged, so that he would
>>> never need to buy gasoline. :-)
>>>
>>> No, he isn't stupid, he's just young. One little hint about
>>> conversion losses and he figured out that it wouldn't work.
>>
>> Also, wouldn't he need to put gas (or diesel fuel) into the generator at
> some point?
>
> I'm guessing he meant it would re-generate electricity from things like the
> wheels going around, braking, etc. ... just like all normal cars do to
> recharge their batteries already.
>

"Normal" (gasoline powered) cars do not generate electricity by braking.
The energy appears as heat which is radiated by fins on the brake drum
or disk. An alternator is used to generate electricity for
charging the battery, operating lights, fans, radio, etc.

Electric cars can use dynamic braking (generates electricity) and I'm
sure that the designers have used it to the maximum possible extent.

Richard B. Gilbert wrote:

> That would be just asking for a fire!!!
>
> Fuel should go in the fuel tank!


How much will Apple sell the adaptor for ? You will need an adaptor to
fit the standard gas station gasoline/petrol nozzles into your iPhone !

Gas stations would have to adapt to a changing customer base, having to
cater to so many teenage girls wanting to refuel their iPhone and
probably start selling lipstick next to 10W30 oil cans :-)

In article <[email protected]>,
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> On 12/5/2010 3:03 PM, Your Name wrote:
> > "Steve Sobol"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 02:58:25 -0500
> >> Wes Groleau<[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> About a year ago, someone asked me if he could put a generator
> >>> in a hybrid car to keep the battery charged, so that he would
> >>> never need to buy gasoline. :-)
> >>>
> >>> No, he isn't stupid, he's just young. One little hint about
> >>> conversion losses and he figured out that it wouldn't work.
> >>
> >> Also, wouldn't he need to put gas (or diesel fuel) into the generator at
> > some point?
> >
> > I'm guessing he meant it would re-generate electricity from things like the
> > wheels going around, braking, etc. ... just like all normal cars do to
> > recharge their batteries already.
>
> "Normal" (gasoline powered) cars do not generate electricity by braking.
<snip>

That was one example of a method to (re)generate electricity. I didn't
mean normal cars actually use all of those methods. :-\

JF Mezei <[email protected]> wrote in news:4cfc1bd0$0$2262
[email protected]:

> How much will Apple sell the adaptor for ? You will need an adaptor to
> fit the standard gas station gasoline/petrol nozzles into your iPhone !
>

$99 for iPhone, $129 for iPad, $299 for Macpro

It'll be only one way, too. Once you load gas onto your iphone, you can't
take it back out over the adapter.

On 12-05-2010 12:57, Steve Sobol wrote:
> Wes Groleau<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> About a year ago, someone asked me if he could put a generator
>> in a hybrid car to keep the battery charged, so that he would
>> never need to buy gasoline. :-)
>>
>> No, he isn't stupid, he's just young. One little hint about
>> conversion losses and he figured out that it wouldn't work.
>
> Also, wouldn't he need to put gas (or diesel fuel) into the generator at some point?

A generator does not use fossil fuel. It may be driven by something
that does.

In this case, the generator was to be driven by a belt or gear from the
car's motor.


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Wes Groleau

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