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- 02-10-2011, 11:04 AM #1SMSGuest
<http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
"Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped calls.
Mossberg wrote in his review, "I can say that, at least in the areas
where I was using it, the Verizon model did much, much better with voice
calls. In numerous tries over nine days, I had only three dropped calls
on the Verizon unit, and those were all to one person who was using an
AT&T iPhone in an especially bad area for AT&T: San Francisco.""
I talked to someone who got their Verizon iPhone delivered on Monday,
and who was previously an AT&T iPhone customer. Same kind of
report--better coverage and no dropped calls. He also had a "be careful"
story, he drove from SF to LA with his AT&T iPhone on the $15 200MB plan
and did not realize that the GPS app was running the whole time. By the
time he reached L.A. he was getting messages about going over his data
limit.
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- 02-10-2011, 01:22 PM #2nospamGuest
Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over
In article <[email protected]>, SMS
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I talked to someone who got their Verizon iPhone delivered on Monday,
> and who was previously an AT&T iPhone customer. Same kind of
> report--better coverage and no dropped calls. He also had a "be careful"
> story, he drove from SF to LA with his AT&T iPhone on the $15 200MB plan
> and did not realize that the GPS app was running the whole time. By the
> time he reached L.A. he was getting messages about going over his data
> limit.
he needs a better gps app, one that has maps stored on the device.
- 02-10-2011, 01:26 PM #3Steve SobolGuest
Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> <http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
>
> "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
> for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
> reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped calls.
This was never an issue for me.
--
Steve Sobol - Programming/Web Dev/IT Support
Apple Valley, CA
[email protected]
- 02-10-2011, 01:53 PM #4SalgudGuest
Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:04:40 -0800, SMS wrote:
> <http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
>
> "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
> for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
> reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped calls.
>
> Mossberg wrote in his review, "I can say that, at least in the areas
> where I was using it, the Verizon model did much, much better with voice
> calls. In numerous tries over nine days, I had only three dropped calls
> on the Verizon unit, and those were all to one person who was using an
> AT&T iPhone in an especially bad area for AT&T: San Francisco.""
>
Not exactly a surprise. It's why millions of Vz customers have been waiting
for, and why millions of AT&T customers will switch in the next couple of
years.
> I talked to someone who got their Verizon iPhone delivered on Monday,
> and who was previously an AT&T iPhone customer. Same kind of
> report--better coverage and no dropped calls. He also had a "be careful"
> story, he drove from SF to LA with his AT&T iPhone on the $15 200MB plan
> and did not realize that the GPS app was running the whole time. By the
> time he reached L.A. he was getting messages about going over his data
> limit.
I think that anyone who buys an iPhone and chooses the 200MB plan should
have the smarts to basically turn off everything but the phone and turn
them back on as needed, then remember to turn them off again when done.
- 02-10-2011, 02:18 PM #5Your NameGuest
Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over
"Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> >
> >
<http://www.informationweek.com/news/...wArticle.jhtml
?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
> >
> > "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
> > for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
> > reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped
calls.
>
> This was never an issue for me.
It's only an issue for some people in some areas ... it simply depends on
the companies coverage, geographical features, buildings, etc., etc. The
design of the mobile phone you're using is only part of a large jigsaw
puzzle of reasons, but unfortunately it's usually the part that the
know-nothing morons and the anti-{insert maker or network} idiots fixate on.
- 02-10-2011, 04:52 PM #6Richard B. GilbertGuest
Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over
On 2/10/2011 2:26 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> <http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
>>
>> "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
>> for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
>> reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped calls.
>
> This was never an issue for me.
>
>
>
Nor for me! I've been a VZW customer for about thirteen years now. I
don't recall *ever* having a called "dropped".
It could be that I simply don't use the phone often enough or for long
enough to encounter the problem.
- 02-10-2011, 04:57 PM #7Steve SobolGuest
Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>
> "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> > >
> > >
> <http://www.informationweek.com/news/...wArticle.jhtml
> ?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
> > >
> > > "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
> > > for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
> > > reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped
> calls.
> >
> > This was never an issue for me.
>
> It's only an issue for some people in some areas
who used AT&T. Which I didn't.
--
Steve Sobol - Programming/Web Dev/IT Support
Apple Valley, CA
[email protected]
- 02-10-2011, 06:25 PM #8NewsGuest
Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over
On 2/10/2011 7:08 PM, HumBug! wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:52:09 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 2/10/2011 2:26 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
>>> In article<[email protected]>,
>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
>>>>
>>>> "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
>>>> for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
>>>> reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped calls.
>>>
>>> This was never an issue for me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Nor for me! I've been a VZW customer for about thirteen years now. I
>> don't recall *ever* having a called "dropped".
>
> Idiot! That's compared to the iPhone on ATT!!!
I can't recall an AT&T call being dropped -- from my Ericssons, HPs or HTCs.
- 02-10-2011, 06:26 PM #9JKConeyGuest
Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over
"SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> <http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
>
> "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
> for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
> reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped calls.
>
> Mossberg wrote in his review, "I can say that, at least in the areas where
> I was using it, the Verizon model did much, much better with voice calls.
> In numerous tries over nine days, I had only three dropped calls on the
> Verizon unit, and those were all to one person who was using an AT&T
> iPhone in an especially bad area for AT&T: San Francisco.""
>
> I talked to someone who got their Verizon iPhone delivered on Monday, and
> who was previously an AT&T iPhone customer. Same kind of report--better
> coverage and no dropped calls. He also had a "be careful" story, he drove
> from SF to LA with his AT&T iPhone on the $15 200MB plan and did not
> realize that the GPS app was running the whole time. By the time he
> reached L.A. he was getting messages about going over his data limit.
I think I've had 3 dropped calls on AT&T in 2 years? I turn off 3G
when I use my GPS apps.
--
www.myconeyislandmemories.com
- 02-10-2011, 11:06 PM #10FredGuest
Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over
SMS <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> <http://www.informationweek.com/news/...es/showArticle.
> jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
>
> "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have
> suspected for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed
> Baig all reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer
> dropped calls.
>
> Mossberg wrote in his review, "I can say that, at least in the areas
> where I was using it, the Verizon model did much, much better with
> voice calls. In numerous tries over nine days, I had only three
> dropped calls on the Verizon unit, and those were all to one person
> who was using an AT&T iPhone in an especially bad area for AT&T: San
> Francisco.""
>
> I talked to someone who got their Verizon iPhone delivered on Monday,
> and who was previously an AT&T iPhone customer. Same kind of
> report--better coverage and no dropped calls. He also had a "be
> careful" story, he drove from SF to LA with his AT&T iPhone on the $15
> 200MB plan and did not realize that the GPS app was running the whole
> time. By the time he reached L.A. he was getting messages about going
> over his data limit.
>
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._releases_ios_
4_2_6_with_bug_fixes_for_verizon_iphone_4.html
Evidently not.....
- 02-11-2011, 01:56 AM #11Junior Member
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Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over
"Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> <http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
>>
>> "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have
>> suspected
>> for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
>> reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped
>> calls.
>
> This was never an issue for me.
>
>
>
> --
> Steve Sobol - Programming/Web Dev/IT Support
> Apple Valley, CA
> [email protected]
I use my iPhone w/AT&T in Redwood City, Madison & Waterloo WI &
Washington DC on a fairly regular basis. "Dropped calls" have been
almost non-existent the past two years. They used to happen from
time-to-time, nearly always on one corner on my drive from work to home.
But even those could be dealt with by disabling 3G. Apparently, the
places I live and/or travel to are now well-served by AT&T (and there's
been no need to disable 3G).
But I think the 3G thing is relevant too. The iPhone, for whatever
technical reason, uses 3G in some manner while you're calling, if you
have it enabled. And if there's an issue with 3G, either due to local
saturation or coverage changes as you drive, you may have an issue. As
mentioned above, the solution in such cases is to disable 3G. And then,
while you're making the call, you've essentially downgraded your AT&T
iPhone to a Verizon version, where you can't simultaneously access data
while using the phone as a phone.
In the end, use what works best for you. If you've got Verizon already,
and it works where you need it to, why would you change, especially if
you've held out this long for an iPhone? And if you've got AT&T and it
makes calls where you need it to and doesn't drop them, great! The cool
thing now is that people in areas where AT&T apparently truly sucks can
now get an iPhone with a carrier that might do a better job in that
area. Cooler yet will be when Verizon comes up with a way to allow you
to access data at the same time you're talking with someone. And for
those that think that just doesn't come up very often, let me tell you
about my 27 minute phone call to United Airlines to make a reservation
last night... if I couldn't have been doing something else
semi-productive at the same time, I'd have gone nuts!
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
- 02-11-2011, 09:25 AM #12SalgudGuest
Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 09:18:02 +1300, Your Name wrote:
> "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] says...
>>>
>>>
> <http://www.informationweek.com/news/...wArticle.jhtml
> ?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
>>>
>>> "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
>>> for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
>>> reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped
> calls.
>>
>> This was never an issue for me.
>
> It's only an issue for some people in some areas ... it simply depends on
> the companies coverage, geographical features, buildings, etc., etc. The
> design of the mobile phone you're using is only part of a large jigsaw
> puzzle of reasons, but unfortunately it's usually the part that the
> know-nothing morons and the anti-{insert maker or network} idiots fixate on.
It's the part that gets fixated on because it's the final link in the chain
of communication, and no matter how good the rest of the chain is, if the
phone sucks, you have problems. Just like the speakers in a stereo system.
- 02-11-2011, 09:34 AM #13SalgudGuest
Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:26:49 -0500, JKConey wrote:
> "SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> <http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
>>
>> "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
>> for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
>> reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped calls.
>>
>> Mossberg wrote in his review, "I can say that, at least in the areas where
>> I was using it, the Verizon model did much, much better with voice calls.
>> In numerous tries over nine days, I had only three dropped calls on the
>> Verizon unit, and those were all to one person who was using an AT&T
>> iPhone in an especially bad area for AT&T: San Francisco.""
>>
>> I talked to someone who got their Verizon iPhone delivered on Monday, and
>> who was previously an AT&T iPhone customer. Same kind of report--better
>> coverage and no dropped calls. He also had a "be careful" story, he drove
>> from SF to LA with his AT&T iPhone on the $15 200MB plan and did not
>> realize that the GPS app was running the whole time. By the time he
>> reached L.A. he was getting messages about going over his data limit.
>
>
> I think I've had 3 dropped calls on AT&T in 2 years? I turn off 3G
> when I use my GPS apps.
In Denver, even downtown where I work, it's not unusual to get the same
call dropped 3 times in 5 minutes. Where I live, in West Denver, sometimes
I can make calls at all for a while. Strangely, it was better with my
iPhone 3GS than with the Samsung I have now. But any phone I use there
drops calls regularly.
- 02-12-2011, 09:39 AM #14M-MGuest
Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over
In article <[email protected]>,
Justin <[email protected]> wrote:
> Isn't the Verizon $15 plan for only 150MB? Hmmm
Verizon no longer offers a $15 data plan. Only unlimited for $30. They
may offer a tiered plan in the future, I was told by a VZ rep.
I thought I would only need the $15 plan but running Pandora to my car's
stereo uses 1 MB every 2 minutes. And the GPS uses a lot of data.
So in 4 days I've used 160 MB! And I don't do Facebook. I will gladly
stick with unlimited.
--
m-m
http://www.mhmyers.com
- 02-12-2011, 09:48 AM #15JustinGuest
Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over
M-M wrote on [Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:39:43 -0500]:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Justin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Isn't the Verizon $15 plan for only 150MB? Hmmm
>
>
> Verizon no longer offers a $15 data plan. Only unlimited for $30. They
> may offer a tiered plan in the future, I was told by a VZ rep.
Wow, that didn't last long
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