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  1. #1
    SMS
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    <http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>

    "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
    for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
    reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped calls.

    Mossberg wrote in his review, "I can say that, at least in the areas
    where I was using it, the Verizon model did much, much better with voice
    calls. In numerous tries over nine days, I had only three dropped calls
    on the Verizon unit, and those were all to one person who was using an
    AT&T iPhone in an especially bad area for AT&T: San Francisco.""

    I talked to someone who got their Verizon iPhone delivered on Monday,
    and who was previously an AT&T iPhone customer. Same kind of
    report--better coverage and no dropped calls. He also had a "be careful"
    story, he drove from SF to LA with his AT&T iPhone on the $15 200MB plan
    and did not realize that the GPS app was running the whole time. By the
    time he reached L.A. he was getting messages about going over his data
    limit.



    See More: Our Long National Nightmare is Over




  2. #2
    nospam
    Guest

    Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over

    In article <[email protected]>, SMS
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > I talked to someone who got their Verizon iPhone delivered on Monday,
    > and who was previously an AT&T iPhone customer. Same kind of
    > report--better coverage and no dropped calls. He also had a "be careful"
    > story, he drove from SF to LA with his AT&T iPhone on the $15 200MB plan
    > and did not realize that the GPS app was running the whole time. By the
    > time he reached L.A. he was getting messages about going over his data
    > limit.


    he needs a better gps app, one that has maps stored on the device.



  3. #3
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    >
    > <http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
    >
    > "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
    > for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
    > reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped calls.


    This was never an issue for me.



    --
    Steve Sobol - Programming/Web Dev/IT Support
    Apple Valley, CA
    [email protected]



  4. #4
    Salgud
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    Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over

    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:04:40 -0800, SMS wrote:

    > <http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
    >
    > "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
    > for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
    > reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped calls.
    >
    > Mossberg wrote in his review, "I can say that, at least in the areas
    > where I was using it, the Verizon model did much, much better with voice
    > calls. In numerous tries over nine days, I had only three dropped calls
    > on the Verizon unit, and those were all to one person who was using an
    > AT&T iPhone in an especially bad area for AT&T: San Francisco.""
    >

    Not exactly a surprise. It's why millions of Vz customers have been waiting
    for, and why millions of AT&T customers will switch in the next couple of
    years.

    > I talked to someone who got their Verizon iPhone delivered on Monday,
    > and who was previously an AT&T iPhone customer. Same kind of
    > report--better coverage and no dropped calls. He also had a "be careful"
    > story, he drove from SF to LA with his AT&T iPhone on the $15 200MB plan
    > and did not realize that the GPS app was running the whole time. By the
    > time he reached L.A. he was getting messages about going over his data
    > limit.

    I think that anyone who buys an iPhone and chooses the 200MB plan should
    have the smarts to basically turn off everything but the phone and turn
    them back on as needed, then remember to turn them off again when done.



  5. #5
    Your Name
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    Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over


    "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] says...
    > >
    > >

    <http://www.informationweek.com/news/...wArticle.jhtml
    ?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
    > >
    > > "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
    > > for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
    > > reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped

    calls.
    >
    > This was never an issue for me.


    It's only an issue for some people in some areas ... it simply depends on
    the companies coverage, geographical features, buildings, etc., etc. The
    design of the mobile phone you're using is only part of a large jigsaw
    puzzle of reasons, but unfortunately it's usually the part that the
    know-nothing morons and the anti-{insert maker or network} idiots fixate on.






  6. #6
    Richard B. Gilbert
    Guest

    Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over

    On 2/10/2011 2:26 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
    > In article<[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] says...
    >>
    >> <http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
    >>
    >> "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
    >> for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
    >> reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped calls.

    >
    > This was never an issue for me.
    >
    >
    >


    Nor for me! I've been a VZW customer for about thirteen years now. I
    don't recall *ever* having a called "dropped".

    It could be that I simply don't use the phone often enough or for long
    enough to encounter the problem.




  7. #7
    Steve Sobol
    Guest

    Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
    >
    > "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > In article <[email protected]>,
    > > [email protected] says...
    > > >
    > > >

    > <http://www.informationweek.com/news/...wArticle.jhtml
    > ?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
    > > >
    > > > "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
    > > > for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
    > > > reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped

    > calls.
    > >
    > > This was never an issue for me.

    >
    > It's only an issue for some people in some areas


    who used AT&T. Which I didn't.




    --
    Steve Sobol - Programming/Web Dev/IT Support
    Apple Valley, CA
    [email protected]



  8. #8
    News
    Guest

    Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over

    On 2/10/2011 7:08 PM, HumBug! wrote:
    > On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:52:09 -0500, "Richard B. Gilbert"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> On 2/10/2011 2:26 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
    >>> In article<[email protected]>,
    >>> [email protected] says...
    >>>>
    >>>> <http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
    >>>>
    >>>> "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
    >>>> for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
    >>>> reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped calls.
    >>>
    >>> This was never an issue for me.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> Nor for me! I've been a VZW customer for about thirteen years now. I
    >> don't recall *ever* having a called "dropped".

    >
    > Idiot! That's compared to the iPhone on ATT!!!



    I can't recall an AT&T call being dropped -- from my Ericssons, HPs or HTCs.



  9. #9
    JKConey
    Guest

    Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over


    "SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > <http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
    >
    > "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
    > for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
    > reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped calls.
    >
    > Mossberg wrote in his review, "I can say that, at least in the areas where
    > I was using it, the Verizon model did much, much better with voice calls.
    > In numerous tries over nine days, I had only three dropped calls on the
    > Verizon unit, and those were all to one person who was using an AT&T
    > iPhone in an especially bad area for AT&T: San Francisco.""
    >
    > I talked to someone who got their Verizon iPhone delivered on Monday, and
    > who was previously an AT&T iPhone customer. Same kind of report--better
    > coverage and no dropped calls. He also had a "be careful" story, he drove
    > from SF to LA with his AT&T iPhone on the $15 200MB plan and did not
    > realize that the GPS app was running the whole time. By the time he
    > reached L.A. he was getting messages about going over his data limit.



    I think I've had 3 dropped calls on AT&T in 2 years? I turn off 3G
    when I use my GPS apps.


    --

    www.myconeyislandmemories.com




  10. #10
    Fred
    Guest

    Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over

    SMS <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > <http://www.informationweek.com/news/...es/showArticle.
    > jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
    >
    > "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have
    > suspected for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed
    > Baig all reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer
    > dropped calls.
    >
    > Mossberg wrote in his review, "I can say that, at least in the areas
    > where I was using it, the Verizon model did much, much better with
    > voice calls. In numerous tries over nine days, I had only three
    > dropped calls on the Verizon unit, and those were all to one person
    > who was using an AT&T iPhone in an especially bad area for AT&T: San
    > Francisco.""
    >
    > I talked to someone who got their Verizon iPhone delivered on Monday,
    > and who was previously an AT&T iPhone customer. Same kind of
    > report--better coverage and no dropped calls. He also had a "be
    > careful" story, he drove from SF to LA with his AT&T iPhone on the $15
    > 200MB plan and did not realize that the GPS app was running the whole
    > time. By the time he reached L.A. he was getting messages about going
    > over his data limit.
    >


    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._releases_ios_
    4_2_6_with_bug_fixes_for_verizon_iphone_4.html

    Evidently not.....




  11. #11
    MikeJacoubowsk
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    Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over

    "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] says...
    >>
    >> <http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
    >>
    >> "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have
    >> suspected
    >> for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
    >> reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped
    >> calls.

    >
    > This was never an issue for me.
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Steve Sobol - Programming/Web Dev/IT Support
    > Apple Valley, CA
    > [email protected]


    I use my iPhone w/AT&T in Redwood City, Madison & Waterloo WI &
    Washington DC on a fairly regular basis. "Dropped calls" have been
    almost non-existent the past two years. They used to happen from
    time-to-time, nearly always on one corner on my drive from work to home.
    But even those could be dealt with by disabling 3G. Apparently, the
    places I live and/or travel to are now well-served by AT&T (and there's
    been no need to disable 3G).

    But I think the 3G thing is relevant too. The iPhone, for whatever
    technical reason, uses 3G in some manner while you're calling, if you
    have it enabled. And if there's an issue with 3G, either due to local
    saturation or coverage changes as you drive, you may have an issue. As
    mentioned above, the solution in such cases is to disable 3G. And then,
    while you're making the call, you've essentially downgraded your AT&T
    iPhone to a Verizon version, where you can't simultaneously access data
    while using the phone as a phone.

    In the end, use what works best for you. If you've got Verizon already,
    and it works where you need it to, why would you change, especially if
    you've held out this long for an iPhone? And if you've got AT&T and it
    makes calls where you need it to and doesn't drop them, great! The cool
    thing now is that people in areas where AT&T apparently truly sucks can
    now get an iPhone with a carrier that might do a better job in that
    area. Cooler yet will be when Verizon comes up with a way to allow you
    to access data at the same time you're talking with someone. And for
    those that think that just doesn't come up very often, let me tell you
    about my 27 minute phone call to United Airlines to make a reservation
    last night... if I couldn't have been doing something else
    semi-productive at the same time, I'd have gone nuts!

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com





  12. #12
    Salgud
    Guest

    Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over

    On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 09:18:02 +1300, Your Name wrote:

    > "Steve Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> In article <[email protected]>,
    >> [email protected] says...
    >>>
    >>>

    > <http://www.informationweek.com/news/...wArticle.jhtml
    > ?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
    >>>
    >>> "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
    >>> for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
    >>> reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped

    > calls.
    >>
    >> This was never an issue for me.

    >
    > It's only an issue for some people in some areas ... it simply depends on
    > the companies coverage, geographical features, buildings, etc., etc. The
    > design of the mobile phone you're using is only part of a large jigsaw
    > puzzle of reasons, but unfortunately it's usually the part that the
    > know-nothing morons and the anti-{insert maker or network} idiots fixate on.


    It's the part that gets fixated on because it's the final link in the chain
    of communication, and no matter how good the rest of the chain is, if the
    phone sucks, you have problems. Just like the speakers in a stereo system.



  13. #13
    Salgud
    Guest

    Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over

    On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:26:49 -0500, JKConey wrote:

    > "SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> <http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=229214505&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All>
    >>
    >> "Early reviews of the Verizon iPhone 4 confirm what most have suspected
    >> for years. Tech pundits Walter Mossberg, David Pogue, and Ed Baig all
    >> reported similar experiences with the Verizon iPhone: fewer dropped calls.
    >>
    >> Mossberg wrote in his review, "I can say that, at least in the areas where
    >> I was using it, the Verizon model did much, much better with voice calls.
    >> In numerous tries over nine days, I had only three dropped calls on the
    >> Verizon unit, and those were all to one person who was using an AT&T
    >> iPhone in an especially bad area for AT&T: San Francisco.""
    >>
    >> I talked to someone who got their Verizon iPhone delivered on Monday, and
    >> who was previously an AT&T iPhone customer. Same kind of report--better
    >> coverage and no dropped calls. He also had a "be careful" story, he drove
    >> from SF to LA with his AT&T iPhone on the $15 200MB plan and did not
    >> realize that the GPS app was running the whole time. By the time he
    >> reached L.A. he was getting messages about going over his data limit.

    >
    >
    > I think I've had 3 dropped calls on AT&T in 2 years? I turn off 3G
    > when I use my GPS apps.


    In Denver, even downtown where I work, it's not unusual to get the same
    call dropped 3 times in 5 minutes. Where I live, in West Denver, sometimes
    I can make calls at all for a while. Strangely, it was better with my
    iPhone 3GS than with the Samsung I have now. But any phone I use there
    drops calls regularly.



  14. #14
    M-M
    Guest

    Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over

    In article <[email protected]>,
    Justin <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Isn't the Verizon $15 plan for only 150MB? Hmmm



    Verizon no longer offers a $15 data plan. Only unlimited for $30. They
    may offer a tiered plan in the future, I was told by a VZ rep.

    I thought I would only need the $15 plan but running Pandora to my car's
    stereo uses 1 MB every 2 minutes. And the GPS uses a lot of data.

    So in 4 days I've used 160 MB! And I don't do Facebook. I will gladly
    stick with unlimited.

    --
    m-m
    http://www.mhmyers.com



  15. #15
    Justin
    Guest

    Re: Our Long National Nightmare is Over

    M-M wrote on [Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:39:43 -0500]:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > Justin <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Isn't the Verizon $15 plan for only 150MB? Hmmm

    >
    >
    > Verizon no longer offers a $15 data plan. Only unlimited for $30. They
    > may offer a tiered plan in the future, I was told by a VZ rep.


    Wow, that didn't last long




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