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  1. #16
    Larry Mobile
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    Re: Free Wi-Fi Expands in Canada as all McDonald's Offer Network Access

    SMS <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > <http://www.sync-blog.com/sync/2011/0...%99s-restauran
    > ts-getting-free-wi-fi-across-canada.html>
    >
    > Good to see our northern neighbor expanding free Wi-Fi access as well.
    >


    Funny thing about Big Mac Wifi on ATT here is that it does not identify
    itself as ATT to normally free ATT services, like ESPN3 sports online.
    The same Waypoint at our local ChickFilA's just connects to ESPN3 and we
    can watch the games, but you get no connect without username and ID or
    home cable connection at Big Mac Waypoints anywhere in town.

    It's OK, though. The ChickFilA folks are much nicer, have a better
    product keep my tea refilled no matter how many hours I stay! Waypoint
    there is 3 times faster than Mickey D's, too.




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  2. #17
    Larry Mobile
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    Re: Free Wi-Fi Expands in Canada as all McDonald's Offer Network Access

    SMS <[email protected]> wrote in news:4dd431fe$0$1934
    [email protected]:

    > and the wi-fi is very fast.
    >


    Our local Perkin's Pancake Houses here in N Charleston just dumped
    expensive Waypoint when one of the Knology Cable salesmen offered the local
    owner a better deal all around. Now, Perkin's is the fastest free wifi in
    town, 12Mbps down, 3Mbps up! There's no login page nonsense to slow anyone
    down. We have quite a group of "campers" spending hundreds per month
    there, now.

    LTE? Why??



  3. #18
    Travis James
    Guest

    Re: Free Wi-Fi Expands in Canada as all McDonald's Offer NetworkAccess

    On 5/21/11 10:48 AM, jcdill wrote:
    > On 21/05/11 10:38 AM, SMS wrote:
    >> On 5/21/2011 10:17 AM, jcdill wrote:
    >>
    >>> You haven't sent me the info yet. What's the hold up? Some reason you
    >>> can't email it to me?

    >>
    >> It was sent on 5/19/2011 at 6:27 p.m. to [email protected].

    >
    > Because you sent a link with no other info, it was caught by gmail's
    > spam filter.
    >
    > For those who are curious, it's a legitimate cafe serving coffee, tea,
    > breakfast/lunch/dinner sandwiches and pastries, and located in the SF
    > Bay Area. I plan on stopping by the next time I'm in that city.
    >
    > jc
    >

    Yet for some reason there is some taboo about sharing the cafe's name
    here. Why is that?



  4. #19
    Richard B. Gilbert
    Guest

    Re: Free Wi-Fi Expands in Canada as all McDonald's Offer NetworkAccess

    On 5/22/2011 2:45 AM, Travis James wrote:
    > On 5/21/11 10:48 AM, jcdill wrote:
    >> On 21/05/11 10:38 AM, SMS wrote:
    >>> On 5/21/2011 10:17 AM, jcdill wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> You haven't sent me the info yet. What's the hold up? Some reason you
    >>>> can't email it to me?
    >>>
    >>> It was sent on 5/19/2011 at 6:27 p.m. to [email protected].

    >>
    >> Because you sent a link with no other info, it was caught by gmail's
    >> spam filter.
    >>
    >> For those who are curious, it's a legitimate cafe serving coffee, tea,
    >> breakfast/lunch/dinner sandwiches and pastries, and located in the SF
    >> Bay Area. I plan on stopping by the next time I'm in that city.
    >>
    >> jc
    >>

    > Yet for some reason there is some taboo about sharing the cafe's name
    > here. Why is that?


    Perhaps someone is afraid that a few thousand people looking for "free"
    WiFi will spoil the experience!



  5. #20
    jcdill
    Guest

    Re: Free Wi-Fi Expands in Canada as all McDonald's Offer NetworkAccess

    On 21/05/11 11:45 PM, Travis James wrote:

    > Yet for some reason there is some taboo about sharing the cafe's name
    > here. Why is that?


    I haven't been to the cafe yet, so I can't confirm what they put on
    their website. I want to visit first.

    However, it's really not unusual to have a cafe of this type in the SF
    Bay Area welcome groups to hold meetings at their cafe, and to offer
    free wifi. There's a restaurant/Peets combined location next to an
    office park that has 2 very large wooden tables, when I was in there ~2
    weeks ago there was a business meeting being held on one of them.
    There's a coffee shop in San Jose that has week-night meetings held
    almost every night of the week, musician open-mike, the local furry
    group, etc. Do I need to identify all of them for you?

    jc



  6. #21
    George
    Guest

    Re: Free Wi-Fi Expands in Canada as all McDonald's Offer NetworkAccess

    On 5/22/2011 2:45 AM, Travis James wrote:
    > On 5/21/11 10:48 AM, jcdill wrote:
    >> On 21/05/11 10:38 AM, SMS wrote:
    >>> On 5/21/2011 10:17 AM, jcdill wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> You haven't sent me the info yet. What's the hold up? Some reason you
    >>>> can't email it to me?
    >>>
    >>> It was sent on 5/19/2011 at 6:27 p.m. to [email protected].

    >>
    >> Because you sent a link with no other info, it was caught by gmail's
    >> spam filter.
    >>
    >> For those who are curious, it's a legitimate cafe serving coffee, tea,
    >> breakfast/lunch/dinner sandwiches and pastries, and located in the SF
    >> Bay Area. I plan on stopping by the next time I'm in that city.
    >>
    >> jc
    >>

    > Yet for some reason there is some taboo about sharing the cafe's name
    > here. Why is that?


    You have to follow along...

    SMS insisted that WiFi is ubiquitous and that he is so smart no one
    should even question his pronouncements So if WiFi is ubiquitous why is
    SMS touting that the restaurant that can't be named _advertises_ it?

    Isn't that a lot like a restaurant _advertising_ that they have electric
    lights over each table or running water in the bathroom?



  7. #22
    George
    Guest

    Re: Free Wi-Fi Expands in Canada as all McDonald's Offer NetworkAccess

    On 5/22/2011 8:59 AM, Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
    > On 5/22/2011 2:45 AM, Travis James wrote:
    >> On 5/21/11 10:48 AM, jcdill wrote:
    >>> On 21/05/11 10:38 AM, SMS wrote:
    >>>> On 5/21/2011 10:17 AM, jcdill wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> You haven't sent me the info yet. What's the hold up? Some reason you
    >>>>> can't email it to me?
    >>>>
    >>>> It was sent on 5/19/2011 at 6:27 p.m. to [email protected].
    >>>
    >>> Because you sent a link with no other info, it was caught by gmail's
    >>> spam filter.
    >>>
    >>> For those who are curious, it's a legitimate cafe serving coffee, tea,
    >>> breakfast/lunch/dinner sandwiches and pastries, and located in the SF
    >>> Bay Area. I plan on stopping by the next time I'm in that city.
    >>>
    >>> jc
    >>>

    >> Yet for some reason there is some taboo about sharing the cafe's name
    >> here. Why is that?

    >
    > Perhaps someone is afraid that a few thousand people looking for "free"
    > WiFi will spoil the experience!


    But he claims WiFI is ubiquitous. Why would anyone even care about the
    restaurant name that _advertises_ WiFI that can't be mentioned?



  8. #23
    Travis James
    Guest

    Re: Free Wi-Fi Expands in Canada as all McDonald's Offer NetworkAccess

    On 5/22/11 6:21 AM, jcdill wrote:
    > On 21/05/11 11:45 PM, Travis James wrote:
    >
    >> Yet for some reason there is some taboo about sharing the cafe's name
    >> here. Why is that?

    >
    > I haven't been to the cafe yet, so I can't confirm what they put on
    > their website. I want to visit first.
    >
    > However, it's really not unusual to have a cafe of this type in the SF
    > Bay Area welcome groups to hold meetings at their cafe, and to offer
    > free wifi. There's a restaurant/Peets combined location next to an
    > office park that has 2 very large wooden tables, when I was in there ~2
    > weeks ago there was a business meeting being held on one of them.
    > There's a coffee shop in San Jose that has week-night meetings held
    > almost every night of the week, musician open-mike, the local furry
    > group, etc. Do I need to identify all of them for you?


    No. Just the one that SMS mentioned as it was put up to make a point.
    What's the big deal? There aren't armies of people roaming around
    looking for wifi to camp upon. If, for example, it were Coffee Society
    by De Anza College in Cupertino, an example of a place where such a
    thing might occur, I'd just say Coffee Society.

    Funny.



  9. #24
    SMS
    Guest

    Re: Free Wi-Fi Expands in Canada as all McDonald's Offer NetworkAccess

    On 5/22/2011 9:53 PM, Travis James wrote:

    > No. Just the one that SMS mentioned as it was put up to make a point.
    > What's the big deal?


    You're right. No big deal. Here it is:
    <http://www.sunnyvaleartgallery.com/cafe.html>
    <http://www.yelp.com/biz/sunnyvale-art-gallery-cafe-sunnyvale>

    Personally I had no idea what this place was until I went to a
    Toastmasters that meets there.



  10. #25
    crkeehn
    Guest

    Re: Free Wi-Fi Expands in Canada as all McDonald's Offer Network Access


    "George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On 5/22/2011 2:45 AM, Travis James wrote:
    >> On 5/21/11 10:48 AM, jcdill wrote:
    >>> On 21/05/11 10:38 AM, SMS wrote:
    >>>> On 5/21/2011 10:17 AM, jcdill wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> You haven't sent me the info yet. What's the hold up? Some reason you
    >>>>> can't email it to me?
    >>>>
    >>>> It was sent on 5/19/2011 at 6:27 p.m. to [email protected].
    >>>
    >>> Because you sent a link with no other info, it was caught by gmail's
    >>> spam filter.
    >>>
    >>> For those who are curious, it's a legitimate cafe serving coffee, tea,
    >>> breakfast/lunch/dinner sandwiches and pastries, and located in the SF
    >>> Bay Area. I plan on stopping by the next time I'm in that city.
    >>>
    >>> jc
    >>>

    >> Yet for some reason there is some taboo about sharing the cafe's name
    >> here. Why is that?

    >
    > You have to follow along...
    >
    > SMS insisted that WiFi is ubiquitous and that he is so smart no one should
    > even question his pronouncements So if WiFi is ubiquitous why is SMS
    > touting that the restaurant that can't be named _advertises_ it?
    >
    > Isn't that a lot like a restaurant _advertising_ that they have electric
    > lights over each table or running water in the bathroom?


    Given a choice, I think that I would favor a restaurant with running water
    in the bathroom.





  11. #26
    Travis James
    Guest

    Re: Free Wi-Fi Expands in Canada as all McDonald's Offer NetworkAccess

    On 5/22/2011 10:28 PM, SMS wrote:
    > On 5/22/2011 9:53 PM, Travis James wrote:
    >
    >> No. Just the one that SMS mentioned as it was put up to make a point.
    >> What's the big deal?

    >
    > You're right. No big deal. Here it is:
    > <http://www.sunnyvaleartgallery.com/cafe.html>
    > <http://www.yelp.com/biz/sunnyvale-art-gallery-cafe-sunnyvale>
    >
    > Personally I had no idea what this place was until I went to a
    > Toastmasters that meets there.


    Thanks. I'll give them some business when I'm around that area.



  12. #27
    tlvp
    Guest

    Re: Free Wi-Fi Expands in Canada as all McDonald's Offer NetworkAccess

    On Sat, 21 May 2011 22:27:43 -0400, Larry Mobile <[email protected]> wrote:

    > SMS <[email protected]> wrote in news:4dd431fe$0$1934
    > [email protected]:
    >
    >> and the wi-fi is very fast.
    >>

    >
    > Our local Perkin's Pancake Houses here in N Charleston just dumped
    > expensive Waypoint when one of the Knology Cable salesmen offered the local
    > owner a better deal all around. Now, Perkin's is the fastest free wifi in
    > town, 12Mbps down, 3Mbps up! There's no login page nonsense to slow anyone
    > down. We have quite a group of "campers" spending hundreds per month
    > there, now.
    >
    > LTE? Why??


    'Cuz it costs hundreds per month *less* than "hundreds per month", maybe?

    Cheers, -- tlvp
    --
    Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP



  13. #28
    SMS
    Guest

    Re: Free Wi-Fi Expands in Canada as all McDonald's Offer NetworkAccess

    On 5/28/2011 4:02 PM, tlvp wrote:
    > On Sat, 21 May 2011 22:27:43 -0400, Larry Mobile <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> SMS <[email protected]> wrote in news:4dd431fe$0$1934
    >> [email protected]:
    >>
    >>> and the wi-fi is very fast.
    >>>

    >>
    >> Our local Perkin's Pancake Houses here in N Charleston just dumped
    >> expensive Waypoint when one of the Knology Cable salesmen offered the
    >> local
    >> owner a better deal all around. Now, Perkin's is the fastest free wifi in
    >> town, 12Mbps down, 3Mbps up! There's no login page nonsense to slow
    >> anyone
    >> down. We have quite a group of "campers" spending hundreds per month
    >> there, now.
    >>
    >> LTE? Why??

    >
    > 'Cuz it costs hundreds per month *less* than "hundreds per month", maybe?
    >
    > Cheers, -- tlvp


    Presumably that group of people is going to eat somewhere, rather than
    cook at home. Wi-Fi is a requirement for many meet-ups. A place with no
    Wi-Fi or slow Wi-Fi is writing off a lot of business. If an
    establishment always has a line out the door anyway and doesn't need
    people coming in and spending a couple of hours in the restaurant, then
    there's no need to add services that bring in more customers, but often
    that's not the case.



  14. #29
    Justin
    Guest

    Re: Free Wi-Fi Expands in Canada as all McDonald's Offer NetworkAccess

    SMS wrote on [Sat, 28 May 2011 16:18:36 -0700]:
    > On 5/28/2011 4:02 PM, tlvp wrote:
    >> On Sat, 21 May 2011 22:27:43 -0400, Larry Mobile <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> SMS <[email protected]> wrote in news:4dd431fe$0$1934
    >>> [email protected]:
    >>>
    >>>> and the wi-fi is very fast.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> Our local Perkin's Pancake Houses here in N Charleston just dumped
    >>> expensive Waypoint when one of the Knology Cable salesmen offered the
    >>> local
    >>> owner a better deal all around. Now, Perkin's is the fastest free wifi in
    >>> town, 12Mbps down, 3Mbps up! There's no login page nonsense to slow
    >>> anyone
    >>> down. We have quite a group of "campers" spending hundreds per month
    >>> there, now.
    >>>
    >>> LTE? Why??

    >>
    >> 'Cuz it costs hundreds per month *less* than "hundreds per month", maybe?
    >>
    >> Cheers, -- tlvp

    >
    > Presumably that group of people is going to eat somewhere, rather than
    > cook at home. Wi-Fi is a requirement for many meet-ups. A place with no
    > Wi-Fi or slow Wi-Fi is writing off a lot of business. If an
    > establishment always has a line out the door anyway and doesn't need
    > people coming in and spending a couple of hours in the restaurant, then
    > there's no need to add services that bring in more customers, but often
    > that's not the case.


    Plenty of businesses manage to stay a going concern without wifi of any kind.
    Most of them, in fact.



  15. #30
    George
    Guest

    Re: Free Wi-Fi Expands in Canada as all McDonald's Offer NetworkAccess

    On 5/28/2011 7:36 PM, Justin wrote:
    > SMS wrote on [Sat, 28 May 2011 16:18:36 -0700]:
    >> On 5/28/2011 4:02 PM, tlvp wrote:
    >>> On Sat, 21 May 2011 22:27:43 -0400, Larry Mobile<[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> SMS<[email protected]> wrote in news:4dd431fe$0$1934
    >>>> [email protected]:
    >>>>
    >>>>> and the wi-fi is very fast.
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Our local Perkin's Pancake Houses here in N Charleston just dumped
    >>>> expensive Waypoint when one of the Knology Cable salesmen offered the
    >>>> local
    >>>> owner a better deal all around. Now, Perkin's is the fastest free wifi in
    >>>> town, 12Mbps down, 3Mbps up! There's no login page nonsense to slow
    >>>> anyone
    >>>> down. We have quite a group of "campers" spending hundreds per month
    >>>> there, now.
    >>>>
    >>>> LTE? Why??
    >>>
    >>> 'Cuz it costs hundreds per month *less* than "hundreds per month", maybe?
    >>>
    >>> Cheers, -- tlvp

    >>
    >> Presumably that group of people is going to eat somewhere, rather than
    >> cook at home. Wi-Fi is a requirement for many meet-ups. A place with no
    >> Wi-Fi or slow Wi-Fi is writing off a lot of business. If an
    >> establishment always has a line out the door anyway and doesn't need
    >> people coming in and spending a couple of hours in the restaurant, then
    >> there's no need to add services that bring in more customers, but often
    >> that's not the case.

    >
    > Plenty of businesses manage to stay a going concern without wifi of any kind.
    > Most of them, in fact.


    That is the case with businesses I know about. And with the exception of
    SMS I have never heard anyone mention : "Oooh, I am going there because
    of free WiFi" or "Oooh, I am not going there because they don't have
    free WiFi"



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