Sprint to get the iPhone

Luigi Vercotti wrote on [Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:26:41 -0400]:
> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 06:23:00 +0000 (UTC), Justin
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Luigi Vercotti wrote on [Sat, 09 Jul 2011 22:36:14 -0400]:
>
>>> This Droid X is weird..need a case, I've dropped it twice, need to
>>> turn
>
>>monoprice.com has cases for a couple bucks
>
> I ordered this Trident case:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Trident-KKN-DX...0223894&sr=1-7

That's a nice one

>>> off so much, upload .mp3 ring tones, blah blah blah. Weighs a ton.
>
>>weighs a ton? seriously? It's light
>
> Compared to my old LG Dare it isn't. I'm used to the size,
> just dropping it is scary. Surfed the net for the 1st time yesterday
> on it and was surprised at the picture. Just got to learn how
> to use my own .mp3 files for ring tones, etc. Too many useless
> apps built in. But I'm starting to like it..great camera..

using your own MP3s is pretty easy, just copy them to the sdcard
under /sdcard/media/audio/ringtones
They should then show up when assigning ringtones

> <also someone said>:
>
>>>>The fine print for sure. But IMO anybody that can even come close to
>>>>using 5GB on a phone must not have much or a life...
>
> 5G a month? GAWDESS, should I ever use more then that, shoot me..

It's not hard to use 2GB

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"SMS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Fourth, while unlimited data sounds wonderful in theory, the reality is
> that very few uses use even 2GB a month and in fact more than half use
> less than 200MB.

But someone's usage could change drastically if or when they start using
something like iheartradio to listen to radio stations on their cell phone.
http://iheartradio.com/main.html

Case in point: Now that I've started streaming radio stations to my cell I'm
at 2.7 gig of data with 7 days left on my billing cycle and I hardly ever
saw over 500k a month before.

So does anybody think Sprint would let me buy an iPhone and keep my
grandfathered unlimited data plan?

TIA

"Paul Miner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:42:11 -0400, Luigi Vercotti <gentry.con> wrote:
>
>>I also doubt if anyone using over 5gig a month has a real life
>>in the 1st place. Wait till cabl/DSL/T's Internet providers
>>start on this game plan. Sign up for unlimited when ya can?
>
> Most cable Internet providers implemented data caps years ago.

But try to find one that enforces them. Case in point: Once our cable
company added a 50Mbps speed they pretty much gave up on their cap knowing
how easy it would be to hit it.

Roger 2008 wrote on [Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:09:52 -0500]:
>
> "Paul Miner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:42:11 -0400, Luigi Vercotti <gentry.con> wrote:
>>
>>>I also doubt if anyone using over 5gig a month has a real life
>>>in the 1st place. Wait till cabl/DSL/T's Internet providers
>>>start on this game plan. Sign up for unlimited when ya can?
>>
>> Most cable Internet providers implemented data caps years ago.
>
> But try to find one that enforces them. Case in point: Once our cable
> company added a 50Mbps speed they pretty much gave up on their cap knowing
> how easy it would be to hit it.

Comcast enforces it, AT&T just started caps a month or so ago, I bet
they will enforce it.

"AJL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> The fine print for sure. But IMO anybody that can even come close to
> using 5GB on a phone must not have much or a life...

5GB was the old cap. AT&T caps at just 2GB now and someone might be able to
hit that by just watching one or two hi-def movies.

On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:54:20 -0500, "Roger 2008" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"AJL" <[email protected]> wrote in message

>>IMO anybody that can even come close to
>> using 5GB on a phone must not have much or a life...

>5GB was the old cap. AT&T caps at just 2GB now and someone might be able to
>hit that by just watching one or two hi-def movies.

Ok I will revise my above quoted statement: IMO anybody that can even
come close to using 5GB on a phone must not have much or a life *and*
anybody that watches movies on a phone screen must not have much or a
life...

"AJL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:54:20 -0500, "Roger 2008" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>"AJL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>>>IMO anybody that can even come close to
>>> using 5GB on a phone must not have much or a life...
>
>>5GB was the old cap. AT&T caps at just 2GB now and someone might be able
>>to
>>hit that by just watching one or two hi-def movies.
>
> Ok I will revise my above quoted statement: IMO anybody that can even
> come close to using 5GB on a phone must not have much or a life *and*
> anybody that watches movies on a phone screen must not have much or a
> life...

What do you have against truck drivers that are stuck away from home during
a 34 hour break?

On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:23:34 -0500, "Roger 2008" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"AJL" <[email protected]> wrote in message

>>IMO anybody that can even
>> come close to using 5GB on a phone must not have much or a life *and*
>> anybody that watches movies on a phone screen must not have much or a
>> life...
>
>What do you have against truck drivers that are stuck away from home during
>a 34 hour break?

If he/she stays in the cab the whole 34 hours then that probably fits
the description of having no life. Most truckers I know would
definitely find some entertainment and it wouldn't be on their
phone...

"AJL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:23:34 -0500, "Roger 2008" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>"AJL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
>>>IMO anybody that can even
>>> come close to using 5GB on a phone must not have much or a life *and*
>>> anybody that watches movies on a phone screen must not have much or a
>>> life...
>>
>>What do you have against truck drivers that are stuck away from home
>>during
>>a 34 hour break?
>
> If he/she stays in the cab the whole 34 hours then that probably fits
> the description of having no life. Most truckers I know would
> definitely find some entertainment and it wouldn't be on their
> phone...

Let's back up a bit to where I stated "might be able to hit that by just
watching one or two hi-def movies."

I use a Slingplayer Pro HD to watch HD movies in HD to do that I have to
have it set up for at least 1280x720 or 1440x540.

A phone certainly can not be used to display those resolution so forget
about watching hi-def movies on your phone because it can not be done.

But a phone can still be used as a modem to watch hi-def movies on a laptop
especially with 3G or 4G. Now is that so bad?

On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:20:18 -0500, "Roger 2008" <[email protected]>
wrote:

"AJL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:54:20 -0500, "Roger 2008" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>"AJL" <[email protected]> wrote in message

OK, it's a slow day, lets analyze this little misunderstanding.

>>>IMO anybody that can even come close to
>>> using 5GB on a phone must not have much or a life...

This was my original post you first answered. You notice that I said
someone using 5GB on a **phone** didn't have a life.

>>5GB was the old cap. AT&T caps at just 2GB now and someone might be able
>>to hit that by just watching one or two hi-def movies.

This is your answer to *my* post that was about a ***phone***.

> Ok I will revise my above quoted statement: IMO anybody that can even
> come close to using 5GB on a phone must not have much or a life *and*
> anybody that watches movies on a phone screen must not have much or a
> life...

>>What do you have against truck drivers that are stuck away from home during
>>a 34 hour break?

So the picture I got was a stuck trucker glued to a movie on a
*phone*.

>>
>> If he/she stays in the cab the whole 34 hours then that probably fits
>> the description of having no life. Most truckers I know would
>> definitely find some entertainment and it wouldn't be on their
>> phone...
>
>Let's back up a bit to where I stated "might be able to hit that by just
>watching one or two hi-def movies."

Let's back up to where I said (and meant) *phone* in several quotes
above. See them now?

>I use a Slingplayer Pro HD to watch HD movies in HD to do that I have to
>have it set up for at least 1280x720 or 1440x540.
>
>A phone certainly can not be used to display those resolution so forget
>about watching hi-def movies on your phone because it can not be done.

Actually you can watch HD on a phone. But it would be a terrible waste
of bandwidth and not make much sense, but who knows why truckers do
what they do...

http://www.reelseo.com/iphone-1080p-hd-video/

>But a phone can still be used as a modem to watch hi-def movies on a laptop
>especially with 3G or 4G. Now is that so bad?

Of course, but that's tethering and has nothing to do with watching
movies on a *phone*.

Bottom line, next time you want to comment on exceeding the cap by
tethering don't use someone's ***phone*** quote...

Roger 2008 wrote on [Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:20:18 -0500]:
>
> "AJL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:23:34 -0500, "Roger 2008" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"AJL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>>>>IMO anybody that can even
>>>> come close to using 5GB on a phone must not have much or a life *and*
>>>> anybody that watches movies on a phone screen must not have much or a
>>>> life...
>>>
>>>What do you have against truck drivers that are stuck away from home
>>>during
>>>a 34 hour break?
>>
>> If he/she stays in the cab the whole 34 hours then that probably fits
>> the description of having no life. Most truckers I know would
>> definitely find some entertainment and it wouldn't be on their
>> phone...
>
> Let's back up a bit to where I stated "might be able to hit that by just
> watching one or two hi-def movies."
>
> I use a Slingplayer Pro HD to watch HD movies in HD to do that I have to
> have it set up for at least 1280x720 or 1440x540.
>
> A phone certainly can not be used to display those resolution so forget
> about watching hi-def movies on your phone because it can not be done.
>
> But a phone can still be used as a modem to watch hi-def movies on a laptop
> especially with 3G or 4G. Now is that so bad?

Tethered connections have always had a 5GB cap on VZW

"AJL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:20:18 -0500, "Roger 2008" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> "AJL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:54:20 -0500, "Roger 2008" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"AJL" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> OK, it's a slow day, lets analyze this little misunderstanding.
>
>>>>IMO anybody that can even come close to
>>>> using 5GB on a phone must not have much or a life...
>
> This was my original post you first answered. You notice that I said
> someone using 5GB on a **phone** didn't have a life.
>
>>>5GB was the old cap. AT&T caps at just 2GB now and someone might be able
>>>to hit that by just watching one or two hi-def movies.
>
> This is your answer to *my* post that was about a ***phone***.
>
>> Ok I will revise my above quoted statement: IMO anybody that can even
>> come close to using 5GB on a phone must not have much or a life *and*
>> anybody that watches movies on a phone screen must not have much or a
>> life...
>
>>>What do you have against truck drivers that are stuck away from home
>>>during
>>>a 34 hour break?
>
> So the picture I got was a stuck trucker glued to a movie on a
> *phone*.
>
>>>
>>> If he/she stays in the cab the whole 34 hours then that probably fits
>>> the description of having no life. Most truckers I know would
>>> definitely find some entertainment and it wouldn't be on their
>>> phone...
>>
>>Let's back up a bit to where I stated "might be able to hit that by just
>>watching one or two hi-def movies."
>
> Let's back up to where I said (and meant) *phone* in several quotes
> above. See them now?
>
>>I use a Slingplayer Pro HD to watch HD movies in HD to do that I have to
>>have it set up for at least 1280x720 or 1440x540.
>>
>>A phone certainly can not be used to display those resolution so forget
>>about watching hi-def movies on your phone because it can not be done.
>
> Actually you can watch HD on a phone. But it would be a terrible waste
> of bandwidth and not make much sense, but who knows why truckers do
> what they do...
>
> http://www.reelseo.com/iphone-1080p-hd-video/
>
>>But a phone can still be used as a modem to watch hi-def movies on a
>>laptop
>>especially with 3G or 4G. Now is that so bad?
>
> Of course, but that's tethering and has nothing to do with watching
> movies on a *phone*.
>
> Bottom line, next time you want to comment on exceeding the cap by
> tethering don't use someone's ***phone*** quote...

So it boils down to what your definition of use is.

On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 15:20:23 +0000 (UTC), Justin
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Roger 2008 wrote on [Sun, 17 Jul 2011 10:09:52 -0500]:
>>
>> "Paul Miner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 15:42:11 -0400, Luigi Vercotti <gentry.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I also doubt if anyone using over 5gig a month has a real life
>>>>in the 1st place. Wait till cabl/DSL/T's Internet providers
>>>>start on this game plan. Sign up for unlimited when ya can?
>>>
>>> Most cable Internet providers implemented data caps years ago.
>>
>> But try to find one that enforces them. Case in point: Once our cable
>> company added a 50Mbps speed they pretty much gave up on their cap knowing
>> how easy it would be to hit it.
>
>Comcast enforces it, AT&T just started caps a month or so ago, I bet
>they will enforce it.

Agreed. I skim dslreports.com now and then and haven't noticed
anything about cable ISP's that don't enforce their caps. I can
confirm that Comcast does, and from what I've read the rest of the
cable ISPs do, too.

--
Paul Miner

On 7/17/2011 11:20 AM, Roger 2008 wrote:

> But a phone can still be used as a modem to watch hi-def movies on a laptop
> especially with 3G or 4G. Now is that so bad?

Laptop or tethered data has never been unlimited except for a brief time
on Broadband2Go from Virgin (unlimited is no longer available). Not that
that has stopped people from tethering their phones using third party
applications and not paying for tethering at all.

The truck driver anecdote that someone posted is cute, but a truck
driver at a truck stop or hotel would be using wi-fi if they really
wanted to stream movies onto a laptop (I stayed at seven different
hotels in July and every one had wi-fi included at no extra cost (Red
Lion (x2), La Quinta, Wyndham (x2), Best Western, and Choice)).

The exception here is phones with 1080p HDMI ports (HTC EVO 4G, LG
Optimus, etc). Since the video is streamed directly from the phone's
HDMI port, rather than being tethered, connecting the HDMI port directly
to a TV with an HDMI input would yield unlimited movies to a large
screen at no extra cost (on Sprint). Presumably the next iPhone will
also add 1080p HDMI support, though the 720p support on the iPhone4
really is good enough for screens that aren't huge. If too many people
start doing this then Sprint would have to limit data as well.

DSL, cable, and wireless carriers are not pleased with all the content
providers that piggy-backed onto unlimited data, sucking up revenue that
they expected to be receiving by selling the content. That's why you're
seeing data caps even on DSL and cable; the idea of Netflix supplanting
pay per view sold to you by Comcast or AT&T while using up precious
capacity is terrifying to the carriers. It's why Redbox probably has a
viable business for quite a few more years, and why Blockbuster may
survive as part of Dish. Video-on-Demand is still going down the street
to the Redbox kiosk for many people.

SMS wrote on [Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:17:26 -0700]:
> On 7/17/2011 11:20 AM, Roger 2008 wrote:
>
>> But a phone can still be used as a modem to watch hi-def movies on a laptop
>> especially with 3G or 4G. Now is that so bad?
>
> Laptop or tethered data has never been unlimited except for a brief time
> on Broadband2Go from Virgin (unlimited is no longer available). Not that
> that has stopped people from tethering their phones using third party
> applications and not paying for tethering at all.
>
> The truck driver anecdote that someone posted is cute, but a truck
> driver at a truck stop or hotel would be using wi-fi if they really
> wanted to stream movies onto a laptop (I stayed at seven different
> hotels in July and every one had wi-fi included at no extra cost (Red
> Lion (x2), La Quinta, Wyndham (x2), Best Western, and Choice)).

Bull!

hotel wifi is rarely up to the task of streaming.

Also, have you ever seen what is called a rest stop? I have never seen
one with wifi.