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  1. #31
    nospam
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    Re: AT&T Minimum Texting Plan Price Quadruples in One Year

    In article <[email protected]>, SMS
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > >> And not to pick on Sprint's MVNOs too much, three of those places have
    > >> no T-Mobile coverage, and two have no AT&T coverage. The T-Mobile
    > >> acquisition would be good for coverage since with a combined network,
    > >> only one of those areas would have no coverage at all.

    > >
    > > those are rural areas where people rarely go, which is why there's not
    > > much coverage there.

    >
    > But lots of people go through rural areas. Lots of people go to
    > Yosemite, Kirkwood Ski area, & Glacier National Park, and lots of people
    > drive up the coast through far northwestern California. I chose Hamburg,
    > MN, only because some friends of mine live there (they are on T-Mobile)
    > and they came on a trip up the Pacific Coast with us in July. It was
    > very annoying to be calling them and often having the call go to voice
    > mail because of the lack of T-Mobile coverage.


    there are 300 million people in the usa. how many go to yosemite or
    glacier every year out of those 300 million? it's not enough for at&t
    and t-mobile to care.



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  2. #32
    nospam
    Guest

    Re: AT&T Minimum Texting Plan Price Quadruples in One Year

    In article <[email protected]>, SMS
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > >> And not to pick on Sprint's MVNOs too much, three of those places have
    > >> no T-Mobile coverage, and two have no AT&T coverage. The T-Mobile
    > >> acquisition would be good for coverage since with a combined network,
    > >> only one of those areas would have no coverage at all.

    > >
    > > those are rural areas where people rarely go, which is why there's not
    > > much coverage there.

    >
    > But lots of people go through rural areas. Lots of people go to
    > Yosemite, Kirkwood Ski area, & Glacier National Park, and lots of people
    > drive up the coast through far northwestern California. I chose Hamburg,
    > MN, only because some friends of mine live there (they are on T-Mobile)
    > and they came on a trip up the Pacific Coast with us in July. It was
    > very annoying to be calling them and often having the call go to voice
    > mail because of the lack of T-Mobile coverage.


    there are 300 million people in the usa. how many go to yosemite or
    glacier every year out of those 300 million? it's not enough for at&t
    and t-mobile to care.



  3. #33
    Justin
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    Re: AT&T Minimum Texting Plan Price Quadruples in One Year

    nospam wrote on [Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:12:02 -0400]:
    > In article <[email protected]>, SMS
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> >> And not to pick on Sprint's MVNOs too much, three of those places have
    >> >> no T-Mobile coverage, and two have no AT&T coverage. The T-Mobile
    >> >> acquisition would be good for coverage since with a combined network,
    >> >> only one of those areas would have no coverage at all.
    >> >
    >> > those are rural areas where people rarely go, which is why there's not
    >> > much coverage there.

    >>
    >> But lots of people go through rural areas. Lots of people go to
    >> Yosemite, Kirkwood Ski area, & Glacier National Park, and lots of people
    >> drive up the coast through far northwestern California. I chose Hamburg,
    >> MN, only because some friends of mine live there (they are on T-Mobile)
    >> and they came on a trip up the Pacific Coast with us in July. It was
    >> very annoying to be calling them and often having the call go to voice
    >> mail because of the lack of T-Mobile coverage.

    >
    > there are 300 million people in the usa. how many go to yosemite or
    > glacier every year out of those 300 million? it's not enough for at&t
    > and t-mobile to care.


    Glacier: 2216109 last year
    Yosemite: 3.5 million a year




  4. #34
    Justin
    Guest

    Re: AT&T Minimum Texting Plan Price Quadruples in One Year

    nospam wrote on [Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:12:02 -0400]:
    > In article <[email protected]>, SMS
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> >> And not to pick on Sprint's MVNOs too much, three of those places have
    >> >> no T-Mobile coverage, and two have no AT&T coverage. The T-Mobile
    >> >> acquisition would be good for coverage since with a combined network,
    >> >> only one of those areas would have no coverage at all.
    >> >
    >> > those are rural areas where people rarely go, which is why there's not
    >> > much coverage there.

    >>
    >> But lots of people go through rural areas. Lots of people go to
    >> Yosemite, Kirkwood Ski area, & Glacier National Park, and lots of people
    >> drive up the coast through far northwestern California. I chose Hamburg,
    >> MN, only because some friends of mine live there (they are on T-Mobile)
    >> and they came on a trip up the Pacific Coast with us in July. It was
    >> very annoying to be calling them and often having the call go to voice
    >> mail because of the lack of T-Mobile coverage.

    >
    > there are 300 million people in the usa. how many go to yosemite or
    > glacier every year out of those 300 million? it's not enough for at&t
    > and t-mobile to care.


    Glacier: 2216109 last year
    Yosemite: 3.5 million a year




  5. #35
    nospam
    Guest

    Re: AT&T Minimum Texting Plan Price Quadruples in One Year

    In article <[email protected]>, Justin <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > Glacier: 2216109 last year
    > Yosemite: 3.5 million a year


    so at best, a little more than 1% of the population.



  6. #36
    nospam
    Guest

    Re: AT&T Minimum Texting Plan Price Quadruples in One Year

    In article <[email protected]>, Justin <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > Glacier: 2216109 last year
    > Yosemite: 3.5 million a year


    so at best, a little more than 1% of the population.



  7. #37
    Steve Sobol
    Guest

    Re: AT&T Minimum Texting Plan Price Quadruples in One Year

    In article <[email protected]>, SMS says...

    > And not to pick on Sprint's MVNOs too much, three of those places have
    > no T-Mobile coverage, and two have no AT&T coverage. The T-Mobile
    > acquisition would be good for coverage since with a combined network,
    > only one of those areas would have no coverage at all.



    No, it would *not.*

    Yes, some rural areas would be covered under the merged company that
    weren't previously covered by one carrier or the other.

    The benefit wouldn't be all that great. Certainly not as awesome as AT&T
    wants to claim.

    --
    Steve Sobol - Programming/WebDev/IT Support
    [email protected]



  8. #38
    Steve Sobol
    Guest

    Re: AT&T Minimum Texting Plan Price Quadruples in One Year

    In article <[email protected]>, SMS says...

    > And not to pick on Sprint's MVNOs too much, three of those places have
    > no T-Mobile coverage, and two have no AT&T coverage. The T-Mobile
    > acquisition would be good for coverage since with a combined network,
    > only one of those areas would have no coverage at all.



    No, it would *not.*

    Yes, some rural areas would be covered under the merged company that
    weren't previously covered by one carrier or the other.

    The benefit wouldn't be all that great. Certainly not as awesome as AT&T
    wants to claim.

    --
    Steve Sobol - Programming/WebDev/IT Support
    [email protected]



  9. #39
    Steve Sobol
    Guest

    Re: AT&T Minimum Texting Plan Price Quadruples in One Year

    In article <[email protected]>, Justin says...

    > Glacier: 2216109 last year
    > Yosemite: 3.5 million a year


    The question is whether PagePlus has hired Mr. Scharf yet. He'd make a
    good shill.

    Seriously, Steven, we all know you're happy with PagePlus. We're aware
    that there are areas covered by Verizon that aren't covered by the other
    carriers. But could you do all of us a favor and stop crowing about how
    PagePlus is God's gift to the American cellular consumer? Because it
    isn't. It's not the perfect solution for everyone.



    --
    Steve Sobol - Programming/WebDev/IT Support
    [email protected]



  10. #40
    Steve Sobol
    Guest

    Re: AT&T Minimum Texting Plan Price Quadruples in One Year

    In article <[email protected]>, Justin says...

    > Glacier: 2216109 last year
    > Yosemite: 3.5 million a year


    The question is whether PagePlus has hired Mr. Scharf yet. He'd make a
    good shill.

    Seriously, Steven, we all know you're happy with PagePlus. We're aware
    that there are areas covered by Verizon that aren't covered by the other
    carriers. But could you do all of us a favor and stop crowing about how
    PagePlus is God's gift to the American cellular consumer? Because it
    isn't. It's not the perfect solution for everyone.



    --
    Steve Sobol - Programming/WebDev/IT Support
    [email protected]



  11. #41
    Paul Miner
    Guest

    Re: AT&T Minimum Texting Plan Price Quadruples in One Year

    On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 01:48:33 +0000 (UTC), Justin
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >nospam wrote on [Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:12:02 -0400]:
    >> In article <[email protected]>, SMS
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> >> And not to pick on Sprint's MVNOs too much, three of those places have
    >>> >> no T-Mobile coverage, and two have no AT&T coverage. The T-Mobile
    >>> >> acquisition would be good for coverage since with a combined network,
    >>> >> only one of those areas would have no coverage at all.
    >>> >
    >>> > those are rural areas where people rarely go, which is why there's not
    >>> > much coverage there.
    >>>
    >>> But lots of people go through rural areas. Lots of people go to
    >>> Yosemite, Kirkwood Ski area, & Glacier National Park, and lots of people
    >>> drive up the coast through far northwestern California. I chose Hamburg,
    >>> MN, only because some friends of mine live there (they are on T-Mobile)
    >>> and they came on a trip up the Pacific Coast with us in July. It was
    >>> very annoying to be calling them and often having the call go to voice
    >>> mail because of the lack of T-Mobile coverage.

    >>
    >> there are 300 million people in the usa. how many go to yosemite or
    >> glacier every year out of those 300 million? it's not enough for at&t
    >> and t-mobile to care.

    >
    >Glacier: 2216109 last year
    >Yosemite: 3.5 million a year


    Would it be safe to assume that those are visitor totals?

    If so, how many are US citizens? I know when I go to a National Park
    I'm much more likely to hear people speaking languages other than
    English.

    Second, of the visitors who live in this country, how many are at&t
    customers, or T-Mo customers, or even Sprint customers? A few
    thousand? A hundred thousand? Not nearly enough for the carriers to
    worry about.

    --
    Paul Miner



  12. #42
    Paul Miner
    Guest

    Re: AT&T Minimum Texting Plan Price Quadruples in One Year

    On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 01:48:33 +0000 (UTC), Justin
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >nospam wrote on [Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:12:02 -0400]:
    >> In article <[email protected]>, SMS
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> >> And not to pick on Sprint's MVNOs too much, three of those places have
    >>> >> no T-Mobile coverage, and two have no AT&T coverage. The T-Mobile
    >>> >> acquisition would be good for coverage since with a combined network,
    >>> >> only one of those areas would have no coverage at all.
    >>> >
    >>> > those are rural areas where people rarely go, which is why there's not
    >>> > much coverage there.
    >>>
    >>> But lots of people go through rural areas. Lots of people go to
    >>> Yosemite, Kirkwood Ski area, & Glacier National Park, and lots of people
    >>> drive up the coast through far northwestern California. I chose Hamburg,
    >>> MN, only because some friends of mine live there (they are on T-Mobile)
    >>> and they came on a trip up the Pacific Coast with us in July. It was
    >>> very annoying to be calling them and often having the call go to voice
    >>> mail because of the lack of T-Mobile coverage.

    >>
    >> there are 300 million people in the usa. how many go to yosemite or
    >> glacier every year out of those 300 million? it's not enough for at&t
    >> and t-mobile to care.

    >
    >Glacier: 2216109 last year
    >Yosemite: 3.5 million a year


    Would it be safe to assume that those are visitor totals?

    If so, how many are US citizens? I know when I go to a National Park
    I'm much more likely to hear people speaking languages other than
    English.

    Second, of the visitors who live in this country, how many are at&t
    customers, or T-Mo customers, or even Sprint customers? A few
    thousand? A hundred thousand? Not nearly enough for the carriers to
    worry about.

    --
    Paul Miner



  13. #43
    SMS
    Guest

    Re: AT&T Minimum Texting Plan Price Quadruples in One Year

    On 8/22/2011 6:12 PM, nospam wrote:

    > there are 300 million people in the usa. how many go to yosemite or
    > glacier every year out of those 300 million? it's not enough for at&t
    > and t-mobile to care.


    In 2010, over 280 million people visited national parks. In 2010, over 4
    million people visited Yosemite, and 1.6 million visited Glacier
    National Park.

    It's clearly enough for AT&T to have put in a cell in Yosemite Valley.
    Verizon and Sprint rely on a roaming partner. T-Mobile has no coverage
    at all (other than 911).



  14. #44
    SMS
    Guest

    Re: AT&T Minimum Texting Plan Price Quadruples in One Year

    On 8/22/2011 6:12 PM, nospam wrote:

    > there are 300 million people in the usa. how many go to yosemite or
    > glacier every year out of those 300 million? it's not enough for at&t
    > and t-mobile to care.


    In 2010, over 280 million people visited national parks. In 2010, over 4
    million people visited Yosemite, and 1.6 million visited Glacier
    National Park.

    It's clearly enough for AT&T to have put in a cell in Yosemite Valley.
    Verizon and Sprint rely on a roaming partner. T-Mobile has no coverage
    at all (other than 911).



  15. #45
    Justin
    Guest

    Re: AT&T Minimum Texting Plan Price Quadruples in One Year

    Paul Miner wrote on [Mon, 22 Aug 2011 20:59:47 -0500]:
    > On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 01:48:33 +0000 (UTC), Justin
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>nospam wrote on [Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:12:02 -0400]:
    >>> In article <[email protected]>, SMS
    >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> >> And not to pick on Sprint's MVNOs too much, three of those places have
    >>>> >> no T-Mobile coverage, and two have no AT&T coverage. The T-Mobile
    >>>> >> acquisition would be good for coverage since with a combined network,
    >>>> >> only one of those areas would have no coverage at all.
    >>>> >
    >>>> > those are rural areas where people rarely go, which is why there's not
    >>>> > much coverage there.
    >>>>
    >>>> But lots of people go through rural areas. Lots of people go to
    >>>> Yosemite, Kirkwood Ski area, & Glacier National Park, and lots of people
    >>>> drive up the coast through far northwestern California. I chose Hamburg,
    >>>> MN, only because some friends of mine live there (they are on T-Mobile)
    >>>> and they came on a trip up the Pacific Coast with us in July. It was
    >>>> very annoying to be calling them and often having the call go to voice
    >>>> mail because of the lack of T-Mobile coverage.
    >>>
    >>> there are 300 million people in the usa. how many go to yosemite or
    >>> glacier every year out of those 300 million? it's not enough for at&t
    >>> and t-mobile to care.

    >>
    >>Glacier: 2216109 last year
    >>Yosemite: 3.5 million a year

    >
    > Would it be safe to assume that those are visitor totals?
    >
    > If so, how many are US citizens? I know when I go to a National Park
    > I'm much more likely to hear people speaking languages other than
    > English.
    >
    > Second, of the visitors who live in this country, how many are at&t
    > customers, or T-Mo customers, or even Sprint customers? A few
    > thousand? A hundred thousand? Not nearly enough for the carriers to
    > worry about.


    Why do you have to live in the US to have a cell phone?
    I know when I travel abroad I buy a burner and a local SIM

    EVery time I have been to Glacier, and it's 7 or 8 times as we used to
    have close by relatives, the visitors were very white and mostly american.




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