NEWS: Consumer advocates ring alarm over robocalls to cellphones

Per Justin:
>
>credit card services has nothing to do with the issuers of credit cards

I've tried to lean on them several times - to extract information
about who and where they are.

They, of course, want to know all sorts of things about me; but
as soon as the realize I'm trying to learn about them they hang
up.

If these guys were making calls threatening politicians or
big-league corporate people there's no doubt in my mind that
they'd be in jail within weeks - but stealing minutes from
thousands and thousands of little people seems tb pretty much
immune from consequences even though it is in violation of the
law.
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(PeteCresswell) wrote on [Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:20:38 -0500]:
> Per Justin:
>>
>>credit card services has nothing to do with the issuers of credit cards
>
> I've tried to lean on them several times - to extract information
> about who and where they are.
>
> They, of course, want to know all sorts of things about me; but
> as soon as the realize I'm trying to learn about them they hang
> up.
>
> If these guys were making calls threatening politicians or
> big-league corporate people there's no doubt in my mind that
> they'd be in jail within weeks - but stealing minutes from
> thousands and thousands of little people seems tb pretty much
> immune from consequences even though it is in violation of the
> law.

I think we may find they are stealning more than just minutes

I have never got past the FOAD stage with them, but I wonder if they
need your CC number and then charge a hefty fee to the unsuspecting.

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> New legislation expands automated dialing to mobile phones
> November 10, 2011|By Gregory Karp, Chicago Tribune reporter
>
> Consumer advocates, including the Illinois and Indiana attorneys
> general, are sounding the alarm over proposed federal legislation that
> would allow companies to place robotic calls - using automated dialers
> to call and play recorded messages - to consumers' wireless mobile
> phones.
>
> "It would open the floodgates to telemarketers and debt collectors to
> call at all hours of the day," said Illinois Attorney General Lisa
> Madigan.
>
> MORE:
> <http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-11-10/business/ct-biz-1110-robocall-20111110_1_cellphones-robocalls-debt-collectors>
> or <http://goo.gl/OTwl5>

It's been discussed previously in this forum.

"HR 3035 IH
112th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 3035
To amend the Communications Act of 1934 to permit informational calls to
mobile telephone numbers, and for other purposes."

It's the "and for other purposes" that concerns me. Based on a list
(partial) of supporters of this legislation, who's best interest do you
think it is in???
American Bankers Association
ACA International
Air Transport Association
Consumer Bankers Association
Coalition of Higher Education Assistance Organizations
Edison Electric Institute
Education Finance Council
Financial Services Roundtable
Housing Policy Council
Mortgage Bankers Association
National Association of College and University Business Officers (NACUBO)
National Council of Higher Education Loan Program
Student Loan Servicing Alliance
Student Loan Servicing Alliance Private Loan Committee
The Clearing House
U.S. Chamber of Commerce"


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On 11/15/2011 10:45 AM, John Navas wrote:
> New legislation expands automated dialing to mobile phones
> November 10, 2011|By Gregory Karp, Chicago Tribune reporter
>
> Consumer advocates, including the Illinois and Indiana attorneys
> general, are sounding the alarm over proposed federal legislation that
> would allow companies to place robotic calls — using automated dialers
> to call and play recorded messages — to consumers' wireless mobile
> phones.
>
> "It would open the floodgates to telemarketers and debt collectors to
> call at all hours of the day," said Illinois Attorney General Lisa
> Madigan.
>
> MORE:
> <http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-11-10/business/ct-biz-1110-robocall-20111110_1_cellphones-robocalls-debt-collectors>
> or<http://goo.gl/OTwl5>

I dunno about you, but I've been getting them already... legal or no.
Too many to be worth my time to try to officially complain - or just
screw with the callers. I just don't answer the phone anymore unless
the caller appears in my address book... if it's someone important
they'll leave a message.

nate

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On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 20:41:33 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:08:30 -0800, "stevev" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> New legislation expands automated dialing to mobile phones
>>> November 10, 2011|By Gregory Karp, Chicago Tribune reporter
>>>
>>> Consumer advocates, including the Illinois and Indiana attorneys
>>> general, are sounding the alarm over proposed federal legislation that
>>> would allow companies to place robotic calls - using automated dialers
>>> to call and play recorded messages - to consumers' wireless mobile
>>> phones.
>>>
>>> "It would open the floodgates to telemarketers and debt collectors to
>>> call at all hours of the day," said Illinois Attorney General Lisa
>>> Madigan.
>>>
>>> MORE:
>>> <http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-11-10/business/ct-biz-1110-robocall-20111110_1_cellphones-robocalls-debt-collectors>
>>> or <http://goo.gl/OTwl5>
>>
>>Hilarious. In one room legislators are forming a new consumer protection
>>agency, and next door a different group of leigislators and/or bureauocrats
>>are tearing it down. Too funny.
>>
>>
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>
>
> Funny isn't teh word that comes to my mind. I wish all of them could
> be taken out and shot. This shouldn't even be an item for discussion.
> NO ONE but an idiot or someone who stands to make money from it would
> think it's a good idea to let any commercial, non-profit or other
> business entity call mobile phones uninvited.

It might be a different story if, as in many
other parts of the world, incoming calls were
*not* chargeable to the recipient :-) . Until
then, though, ... .

Cheers, -- tlvp
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