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  1. #1
    SMS
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    <http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/23/business/media/fcc-seeks-review-of-att-merger-with-t-mobile.html>

    Good news for T-Mobile subscribers. They will get back some of the
    roaming coverage they've been losing since if the deal falls through
    AT&T will have to provide more roaming to T-Mobile.



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    danny burstein
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    Re: FCC joins FTC in Opposing AT&T Acquisition of T-Mobile U.S.A.

    In <[email protected]> SMS <[email protected]> writes:

    ><http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/23/business/media/fcc-seeks-review-of-att-merger-with-t-mobile.html>


    >Good news for T-Mobile subscribers. They will get back some of the
    >roaming coverage they've been losing since if the deal falls through
    >AT&T will have to provide more roaming to T-MobilE.


    hip, hip. I'm often in areas that AT&T recently bought up,
    and the roaming option has been fading away....

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  3. #3
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: FCC joins FTC in Opposing AT&T Acquisition of T-Mobile U.S.A.

    In article <[email protected]>, danny burstein says...
    >
    > In <[email protected]> SMS <[email protected]> writes:
    >
    > ><http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/23/business/media/fcc-seeks-review-of-att-merger-with-t-mobile.html>

    >
    > >Good news for T-Mobile subscribers. They will get back some of the
    > >roaming coverage they've been losing since if the deal falls through
    > >AT&T will have to provide more roaming to T-MobilE.

    >
    > hip, hip. I'm often in areas that AT&T recently bought up,
    > and the roaming option has been fading away....


    Yeah, but ATT's footprint is still probably SIGNIFICANTLY larger than T-
    Mo's.

    If I can get better data coverage as a result of this, I'll be happy.

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    Steve Sobol - Programming/WebDev/IT Support
    [email protected]



  4. #4
    SMS
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    Re: FCC joins FTC in Opposing AT&T Acquisition of T-Mobile U.S.A.

    On 11/22/2011 3:26 PM, danny burstein wrote:
    > In<[email protected]> SMS<[email protected]> writes:
    >
    >> <http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/23/business/media/fcc-seeks-review-of-att-merger-with-t-mobile.html>

    >
    >> Good news for T-Mobile subscribers. They will get back some of the
    >> roaming coverage they've been losing since if the deal falls through
    >> AT&T will have to provide more roaming to T-MobilE.

    >
    > hip, hip. I'm often in areas that AT&T recently bought up,
    > and the roaming option has been fading away....


    That's what happened in my area (SF Bay Area). You could see the
    T-Mobile maps losing coverage in non-urban parts of the Bay Area where
    they did not want to bother putting up towers. Why should AT&T help
    enable a lower cost competitor?

    What they never made public is just how much roaming coverage AT&T is
    required to provide if the deal falls through.

    Meanwhile, AT&T is continuing with its already discredited justification
    for the acquisition, “It is yet another example of a government agency
    acting to prevent billions in new investment and the creation of many
    thousands of new jobs at a time when the U.S. economy desperately needs
    both.” Never mind the fact that a) AT&T is free to invest billions with
    or without acquiring T-Mobile, and b) all the independent analyses show
    that jobs would be lost by the acquisition.





  5. #5
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: FCC joins FTC in Opposing AT&T Acquisition of T-Mobile U.S.A.

    In article <[email protected]>, SMS says...


    > Meanwhile, AT&T is continuing with its already discredited justification
    > for the acquisition, ?It is yet another example of a government agency
    > acting to prevent billions in new investment and the creation of many
    > thousands of new jobs at a time when the U.S. economy desperately needs
    > both.? Never mind the fact that a) AT&T is free to invest billions with
    > or without acquiring T-Mobile, and b) all the independent analyses show
    > that jobs would be lost by the acquisition.


    No one ever accused AT&T's management of being smart, or acting in
    anyone's best interest besides their own.

    Aside from the fact that they took government bailout money, the #1
    reason I'll never buy a GM vehicle is that they hired one of the biggest
    assholes in the world, Ed Whitacre, who used to run AT&T.

    Personally, if I was an AT&T shareholder (thank $DEITY I'm not), I'd be
    hauling management into court about now. Everyone knows their little
    charade is just that, and management is going to cost the shareholders a
    metric buttload of money. They're all greedy, stupid jackasses that need
    to be fired. (Actually, that's how I'd feel if I was a shareholder. I'm
    kinda liking the idea of the idiots shooting themselves in the foot.)

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    [email protected]



  6. #6
    SMS
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    Re: FCC joins FTC in Opposing AT&T Acquisition of T-Mobile U.S.A.

    On 11/22/2011 7:03 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
    > In article<[email protected]>, SMS says...
    >
    >
    >> Meanwhile, AT&T is continuing with its already discredited justification
    >> for the acquisition, ?It is yet another example of a government agency
    >> acting to prevent billions in new investment and the creation of many
    >> thousands of new jobs at a time when the U.S. economy desperately needs
    >> both.? Never mind the fact that a) AT&T is free to invest billions with
    >> or without acquiring T-Mobile, and b) all the independent analyses show
    >> that jobs would be lost by the acquisition.

    >
    > No one ever accused AT&T's management of being smart, or acting in
    > anyone's best interest besides their own.


    But by using such easily discredited arguments they are not being smart.
    It's one thing when you're just doing a public relations campaign where
    you want to sway public opinion and where the public rarely researches
    an issue, and another thing where you know that you will be subjected to
    actual scrutiny by people that know what they are doing.

    > Aside from the fact that they took government bailout money, the #1
    > reason I'll never buy a GM vehicle is that they hired one of the biggest
    > assholes in the world, Ed Whitacre, who used to run AT&T.


    This is one reason I won't:
    <http://bikeportland.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/gmAd_big1.jpg>. Of
    course there are many others as well.

    > Personally, if I was an AT&T shareholder (thank $DEITY I'm not), I'd be
    > hauling management into court about now. Everyone knows their little
    > charade is just that, and management is going to cost the shareholders a
    > metric buttload of money.


    Apparently they really thought that by "donating" money to lots of
    strange organizations, and picking up support for the acquisition from
    those groups, that it would be enough to get the deal approved. If they
    can postpone the whole thing for a while, and Obama loses, they may have
    a chance, though the FTC has been somewhat immune to political influence
    in the past (though not the FCC).



  7. #7
    Steve Sobol
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    Re: FCC joins FTC in Opposing AT&T Acquisition of T-Mobile U.S.A.

    In article <[email protected]>, SMS says...
    >
    > On 11/22/2011 7:03 PM, Steve Sobol wrote:
    > > In article<[email protected]>, SMS says...



    > > No one ever accused AT&T's management of being smart, or acting in
    > > anyone's best interest besides their own.

    >
    > But by using such easily discredited arguments they are not being smart.


    Yes, that was my point.

    > It's one thing when you're just doing a public relations campaign where
    > you want to sway public opinion and where the public rarely researches
    > an issue, and another thing where you know that you will be subjected to
    > actual scrutiny by people that know what they are doing.


    Of course.



    > > Personally, if I was an AT&T shareholder (thank $DEITY I'm not), I'd be
    > > hauling management into court about now. Everyone knows their little
    > > charade is just that, and management is going to cost the shareholders a
    > > metric buttload of money.

    >
    > Apparently they really thought that by "donating" money to lots of
    > strange organizations, and picking up support for the acquisition from
    > those groups, that it would be enough to get the deal approved. If they
    > can postpone the whole thing for a while, and Obama loses, they may have
    > a chance, though the FTC has been somewhat immune to political influence
    > in the past (though not the FCC).



    Those are two big IF's.


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    [email protected]



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