Is this a legal phone?

"KM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Today, the DC City Council enacted a new law that would
> make it illegal to use a hand held cell phone while driving,
> unless you also use a "hands-free" device. The fine would
> be $100 (no points) but if you show up for court and
> bring along a "hands-free" device, they will erase
> the fine.
>
> My question is: If you look at the photo link below,
> would it be legal to use the hands-free phone in this
> picture?
>
> http://www.zyworld.com/maryland/handsfree.htm
>
> KM

Most of the attention distraction comes from the dialing of the
numbers and not the actual talking. How would you dial the numbers
and then reattach the telephone to your ear while driving at highway
speed? I do not think that that telephone has voice dialing.

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Earl F. Parrish

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> Most of the attention distraction comes from the dialing of the
> numbers and not the actual talking. How would you dial the numbers
> and then reattach the telephone to your ear while driving at highway
> speed? I do not think that that telephone has voice dialing.
>
> --
> Earl F. Parrish
>

It doesn't, but it has one-touch dialing which could be activated without
removing the phone from your head. -Dave

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 20:11:27 -0500, "Dave C."
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> Most of the attention distraction comes from the dialing of the
>> numbers and not the actual talking. How would you dial the numbers
>> and then reattach the telephone to your ear while driving at highway
>> speed? I do not think that that telephone has voice dialing.
>>
>> --
>> Earl F. Parrish
>>
>
>It doesn't, but it has one-touch dialing which could be activated without
>removing the phone from your head. -Dave
>

Or auto answer set to on for incoming calls. A person can control
when they make a call. Having the phone strapped to your head with AA
on would take care of the incoming calls that are beyond your control.

On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:05:20 -0500, Isaiah Beard
<[email protected]> posted to alt.cellular.verizon:

>Al Klein wrote:
>> On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:11:03 -0500, The Ghost of General Lee
>> <[email protected]> posted to alt.cellular.verizon:

>> The New York law specifies that the violation is holding the phone up
>> to your ear to hear it. It doesn't specify "with your hand". (It
>> does specify that "cell phone" refers to a device connected to the
>> public switched telephone network, though, eliminating any connection
>> to two-way radios.)

>Not necessarily... quite a few two-way radios have "phone patch"
>capability, which was a special channel that allows a call to be placed
>(sometimes by a dispatcher, but automated systems are common) and
>connected to the two-way radio, just the same way the old, old
>pre-cellular MTS system worked.

I know what a patch is - and, according to NY law, if you hold the
radio to your ear while connected to a patch you're in violation.

> It's a clunky interface and limited of
>course by the fact that the radio user must "push to talk" while the
>person on the phone may still they can have a full-duplex conversation

Unless one has radios on 2 bands, and the patch is running through 2
repeaters.

>Even if the phone patch isn't used any longer, I'm sure no one's
>bothered to remove that capability. Hence, I imagine most police radios
>still fall under the cell phone category according to this law, and they
>just don't realize it.

They do WHEN the phone is actually connected to the PSTN - which is
almost never done any more, except in amateur radio.

"Bozo the Clown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> KM <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Today, the DC City Council enacted a new law that would
> > make it illegal to use a hand held cell phone while driving,
> > unless you also use a "hands-free" device. The fine would
> > be $100 (no points) but if you show up for court and
> > bring along a "hands-free" device, they will erase
> > the fine.
> >
> > My question is: If you look at the photo link below,
> > would it be legal to use the hands-free phone in this
> > picture?
> >
> > http://www.zyworld.com/maryland/handsfree.htm
> >
> > KM
>
> Hahahaha! Wasn't someone selling those on eBay a couple of years ago
> as hands-free device? I seem to remember the same picture.

Yeah, they had a nice plastic bag/header package too. It said something
like "Available colors: tan, desert sand, and flesh-tone."


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"Earl F. Parrish" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "KM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Today, the DC City Council enacted a new law that would
> > make it illegal to use a hand held cell phone while driving,
> > unless you also use a "hands-free" device. The fine would
> > be $100 (no points) but if you show up for court and
> > bring along a "hands-free" device, they will erase
> > the fine.
> >
> > My question is: If you look at the photo link below,
> > would it be legal to use the hands-free phone in this
> > picture?
> >
> > http://www.zyworld.com/maryland/handsfree.htm
> >
> > KM
>
> Most of the attention distraction comes from the dialing of the
> numbers and not the actual talking. How would you dial the numbers
> and then reattach the telephone to your ear while driving at highway
> speed? I do not think that that telephone has voice dialing.

Maybe he dials out before starting up the car.


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>They do WHEN the phone is actually connected to the PSTN - which is
>almost never done any more, except in amateur radio.

Not true, look at the millions of Nextel customers who also make calls.

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On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:26:44 GMT, "Earl F. Parrish"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Most of the attention distraction comes from the dialing of the
>numbers and not the actual talking. How would you dial the numbers
>and then reattach the telephone to your ear while driving at highway
>speed? I do not think that that telephone has voice dialing.

Evidently you haven't read a whole lot of articles related to hands
free versus holding the phone. It's not just the holding of the
phone, but the distraction of the call which is a good part of the
problem.

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>
> Evidently you haven't read a whole lot of articles related to hands
> free versus holding the phone. It's not just the holding of the
> phone, but the distraction of the call which is a good part of the
> problem.
>
>

Yup, I've said many times that if talking on a cell phone while driving is a
problem, then the practice should be outlawed completely. Specifying that
you must use a hands-free kit solves nothing, as the problem is the
conversation takes your mind off the road. -Dave