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- 01-06-2004, 05:44 PM #1KMGuest
Today, the DC City Council enacted a new law that would
make it illegal to use a hand held cell phone while driving,
unless you also use a "hands-free" device. The fine would
be $100 (no points) but if you show up for court and
bring along a "hands-free" device, they will erase
the fine.
My question is: If you look at the photo link below,
would it be legal to use the hands-free phone in this
picture?
http://www.zyworld.com/maryland/handsfree.htm
KM
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- 01-06-2004, 06:11 PM #2The Ghost of General LeeGuest
Re: Is this a legal phone?
On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 18:44:04 -0500, KM <[email protected]> wrote:
>Today, the DC City Council enacted a new law that would
>make it illegal to use a hand held cell phone while driving,
>unless you also use a "hands-free" device. The fine would
>be $100 (no points) but if you show up for court and
>bring along a "hands-free" device, they will erase
>the fine.
>
>My question is: If you look at the photo link below,
>would it be legal to use the hands-free phone in this
>picture?
>
>http://www.zyworld.com/maryland/handsfree.htm
>
I know you probably posted it as a joke, but it does raise an
interesting point. Does the law specify what constitutes a "hands
free" device? Seems if you are able to have both hands on the wheel
while talking, then by definition, you have a "hands free" device. If
using a phone sitting in front of you in speakerphone mode is
acceptable, I'd have to guess that one is, too.
Just for giggles, why don't you send the question and link to the DC
City Attorney. Let us know back what they say.
- 01-06-2004, 07:04 PM #3Dave C.Guest
Re: Is this a legal phone?
"KM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Today, the DC City Council enacted a new law that would
> make it illegal to use a hand held cell phone while driving,
> unless you also use a "hands-free" device. The fine would
> be $100 (no points) but if you show up for court and
> bring along a "hands-free" device, they will erase
> the fine.
>
> My question is: If you look at the photo link below,
> would it be legal to use the hands-free phone in this
> picture?
>
> http://www.zyworld.com/maryland/handsfree.htm
>
> KM
That's not a hands-free phone, it is a hands-free device used with a cell
phone. Looks legitimate to me. I'd say that meets the definition of the
law. If not, then the judge is crooked. It's actually rather inventive.
Looks ridiculous, but keeps the hands free!!! -Dave
- 01-06-2004, 08:47 PM #4Bob the PrinterGuest
Re: Is this a legal phone?
"KM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Today, the DC City Council enacted a new law that would
> make it illegal to use a hand held cell phone while driving,
> unless you also use a "hands-free" device. The fine would
> be $100 (no points) but if you show up for court and
> bring along a "hands-free" device, they will erase
> the fine.
>
> My question is: If you look at the photo link below,
> would it be legal to use the hands-free phone in this
> picture?
>
> http://www.zyworld.com/maryland/handsfree.htm
Sure is! It's hands free isn't it??? :-)
- 01-06-2004, 10:46 PM #5dudeGuest
Re: Is this a legal phone?
I did the same thing, but wrapped my head and phone with an ace bandage.
I had to go up on garage roof to adjust satellite dish and have both
hands free, while listenening to the tone from my receiver. It was cold
out so it kept my ears warm too.
I was joking with my daughter,saying I wonder what the public would
think of my hands free device. It looked like I had a serious head
injury, or had brain surgery!
KM wrote:
> Today, the DC City Council enacted a new law that would
> make it illegal to use a hand held cell phone while driving,
> unless you also use a "hands-free" device. The fine would
> be $100 (no points) but if you show up for court and
> bring along a "hands-free" device, they will erase
> the fine.
>
> My question is: If you look at the photo link below,
> would it be legal to use the hands-free phone in this
> picture?
>
> http://www.zyworld.com/maryland/handsfree.htm
>
> KM
- 01-07-2004, 07:36 AM #6Double UGuest
Re: Is this a legal phone?
Some time around Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:11:03 -0500 (give or take a month), someone who says they are
named The Ghost of General Lee <[email protected]> rambled on about:
>I know you probably posted it as a joke, but it does raise an
>interesting point. Does the law specify what constitutes a "hands
>free" device? Seems if you are able to have both hands on the wheel
>while talking, then by definition, you have a "hands free" device. If
>using a phone sitting in front of you in speakerphone mode is
>acceptable, I'd have to guess that one is, too.
I can't tell you the number of times I have watched people with headsets on driving in their car...
holding the phone with one hand. (Put the phone down)
That picture has been around from the time that phone was popular.
-W
- 01-07-2004, 09:30 AM #7The Ghost of General LeeGuest
Re: Is this a legal phone?
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 08:36:02 -0500, Double U
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Some time around Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:11:03 -0500 (give or take a month), someone who says they are
>named The Ghost of General Lee <[email protected]> rambled on about:
>
>
>>I know you probably posted it as a joke, but it does raise an
>>interesting point. Does the law specify what constitutes a "hands
>>free" device? Seems if you are able to have both hands on the wheel
>>while talking, then by definition, you have a "hands free" device. If
>>using a phone sitting in front of you in speakerphone mode is
>>acceptable, I'd have to guess that one is, too.
>
>I can't tell you the number of times I have watched people with headsets on driving in their car...
>holding the phone with one hand. (Put the phone down)
>
Not as bad as the jackass I was behind about an hour ago. Sitting at
a green light talking on his phone. By the time my horn got his
attention, the light turned red, so I got to sit through another light
cycle watching him yak it up.
- 01-07-2004, 04:13 PM #8JosephGuest
Re: Is this a legal phone?
On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 18:44:04 -0500, KM <[email protected]> wrote:
>Today, the DC City Council enacted a new law that would
>make it illegal to use a hand held cell phone while driving,
>unless you also use a "hands-free" device. The fine would
>be $100 (no points) but if you show up for court and
>bring along a "hands-free" device, they will erase
>the fine.
>
>My question is: If you look at the photo link below,
>would it be legal to use the hands-free phone in this
>picture?
>
>http://www.zyworld.com/maryland/handsfree.htm
Probably it would be legal. Silly, but legal.
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- 01-07-2004, 11:01 PM #9Al KleinGuest
Re: Is this a legal phone?
On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:11:03 -0500, The Ghost of General Lee
<[email protected]> posted to alt.cellular.verizon:
>I know you probably posted it as a joke, but it does raise an
>interesting point. Does the law specify what constitutes a "hands
>free" device? Seems if you are able to have both hands on the wheel
>while talking, then by definition, you have a "hands free" device.
The New York law specifies that the violation is holding the phone up
to your ear to hear it. It doesn't specify "with your hand". (It
does specify that "cell phone" refers to a device connected to the
public switched telephone network, though, eliminating any connection
to two-way radios.)
- 01-08-2004, 06:59 AM #10Dave C.Guest
Re: Is this a legal phone?
"Al Klein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> The New York law specifies that the violation is holding the phone up
> to your ear to hear it. It doesn't specify "with your hand".
Awww, but if you use the rubber band thingie then YOU are not "holding" it,
so it doesn't matter what you are not holding it WITH. I think it's
egal. -Dave
- 01-08-2004, 09:47 AM #11Bozo the ClownGuest
Re: Is this a legal phone?
KM <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Today, the DC City Council enacted a new law that would
> make it illegal to use a hand held cell phone while driving,
> unless you also use a "hands-free" device. The fine would
> be $100 (no points) but if you show up for court and
> bring along a "hands-free" device, they will erase
> the fine.
>
> My question is: If you look at the photo link below,
> would it be legal to use the hands-free phone in this
> picture?
>
> http://www.zyworld.com/maryland/handsfree.htm
>
> KM
Hahahaha! Wasn't someone selling those on eBay a couple of years ago
as hands-free device? I seem to remember the same picture.
- 01-08-2004, 10:55 AM #12Isaiah BeardGuest
Re: Is this a legal phone?
dude wrote:
> I was joking with my daughter,saying I wonder what the public would
> think of my hands free device. It looked like I had a serious head
> injury, or had brain surgery!
On the upside, if you had fallen and hit your head, you'd be all packed
and ready to go the hospital... and you'd still be able to receive
calls, to boot!
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- 01-08-2004, 11:05 AM #13Isaiah BeardGuest
Re: Is this a legal phone?
Al Klein wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:11:03 -0500, The Ghost of General Lee
> <[email protected]> posted to alt.cellular.verizon:
> The New York law specifies that the violation is holding the phone up
> to your ear to hear it. It doesn't specify "with your hand". (It
> does specify that "cell phone" refers to a device connected to the
> public switched telephone network, though, eliminating any connection
> to two-way radios.)
Not necessarily... quite a few two-way radios have "phone patch"
capability, which was a special channel that allows a call to be placed
(sometimes by a dispatcher, but automated systems are common) and
connected to the two-way radio, just the same way the old, old
pre-cellular MTS system worked. It's a clunky interface and limited of
course by the fact that the radio user must "push to talk" while the
person on the phone may still they can have a full-duplex conversation,
but before cell phones really became inexpensive and popular,
construction workers and police detectives used it quite a lot.... in
fact it might still be used by agencies too cheap to get cell phones and
by officers/workers who don't have a cell phone or don't want to use
their personal minutes to make calls.
Even if the phone patch isn't used any longer, I'm sure no one's
bothered to remove that capability. Hence, I imagine most police radios
still fall under the cell phone category according to this law, and they
just don't realize it.
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- 01-08-2004, 12:27 PM #14Peter PanGuest
Re: Is this a legal phone?
"Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> dude wrote:
>
> > I was joking with my daughter,saying I wonder what the public would
> > think of my hands free device. It looked like I had a serious head
> > injury, or had brain surgery!
>
> On the upside, if you had fallen and hit your head, you'd be all packed
> and ready to go the hospital... and you'd still be able to receive
> calls, to boot!
>
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>
Unless you go to a hospital that doesn't allow cell phone use. How do you
turn it off?
- 01-08-2004, 12:53 PM #15The Ghost of General LeeGuest
Re: Is this a legal phone?
On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:05:20 -0500, Isaiah Beard
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Even if the phone patch isn't used any longer, I'm sure no one's
>bothered to remove that capability. Hence, I imagine most police radios
>still fall under the cell phone category according to this law, and they
>just don't realize it.
Even still, I'd bet there's an exemption somewhere in the statute for
law enforcement.
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