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- 01-15-2004, 05:51 PM #1Boris DyninGuest
I received the phone from Cingular. Manual says that it takes 4 hours to
charge. However, I was charging it for ~12 hours and it didn't finish yet!
Desktop is supposed to show icons for different groups of functionality.
However, in that phone desktop was showing some strange circles instead of
icons (as in the manual).
The phone has + and - buttons on the side. Manual seems to imply those
control sound volume.
However, I wasn't able to make sound any louder using those buttons (and I
could barely hear person on other side).
In addition, buttons functionality is heavily overloaded (there're so many
different shotcuts using joystick, for example).
After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular.
I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I don't
understand why they sell such crap as SE T616.
Boris
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- 01-16-2004, 08:38 AM #2Jason CothranGuest
Re: My experience with SE T616
"Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
| I received the phone from Cingular. Manual says that it takes 4 hours to
| charge. However, I was charging it for ~12 hours and it didn't finish yet!
The phone still says charging even after charging is complete. You have to
simply look at the meter, or if you are charging with the phone off, when
the red light on the joystick goes off.
| Desktop is supposed to show icons for different groups of functionality.
| However, in that phone desktop was showing some strange circles instead of
| icons (as in the manual).
The desktop isn't the front screen with all the circles. It is the screen
accessed by pressing the joystick button from the wallpaper page. Pretty
simple and explained clearly in the manual. The funny "circles" is the
default cingular theme installed which is easily changed from within the
theme menu from the desktop.
| The phone has + and - buttons on the side. Manual seems to imply those
| control sound volume.
| However, I wasn't able to make sound any louder using those buttons (and I
| could barely hear person on other side).
The phone doesn't get extremely loud, but yes the buttons on the side do
control the volume, but while in call only.
| In addition, buttons functionality is heavily overloaded (there're so many
| different shotcuts using joystick, for example).
Unless you want a phone with 8 million buttons, thats what you get when you
buy a high quality phone with tons of features. By the way, the joystick has
only four shortcuts incorporated .... one for each direction.
|
| After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular.
| I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I
don't
| understand why they sell such crap as SE T616.
The lack of understanding of such a high tech piece of equipment would lead
anyone to think that <wink>. I hope you bought a featureless phone this time
:-P
| Boris
|
|
- 01-16-2004, 01:46 PM #3aaGuest
Re: My experience with SE T616
I agree with Jason 100%. I have the same t616 and I couldn't
be happier with its performance and easy to use.
Boris, I think you might keep using regular phones.(No disrespect)
Regards,
Aa
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"Jason Cothran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> | I received the phone from Cingular. Manual says that it takes 4 hours to
> | charge. However, I was charging it for ~12 hours and it didn't finish
yet!
>
> The phone still says charging even after charging is complete. You have to
> simply look at the meter, or if you are charging with the phone off, when
> the red light on the joystick goes off.
>
>
> | Desktop is supposed to show icons for different groups of functionality.
> | However, in that phone desktop was showing some strange circles instead
of
> | icons (as in the manual).
>
> The desktop isn't the front screen with all the circles. It is the screen
> accessed by pressing the joystick button from the wallpaper page. Pretty
> simple and explained clearly in the manual. The funny "circles" is the
> default cingular theme installed which is easily changed from within the
> theme menu from the desktop.
>
>
> | The phone has + and - buttons on the side. Manual seems to imply those
> | control sound volume.
> | However, I wasn't able to make sound any louder using those buttons (and
I
> | could barely hear person on other side).
>
> The phone doesn't get extremely loud, but yes the buttons on the side do
> control the volume, but while in call only.
>
>
> | In addition, buttons functionality is heavily overloaded (there're so
many
> | different shotcuts using joystick, for example).
>
>
> Unless you want a phone with 8 million buttons, thats what you get when
you
> buy a high quality phone with tons of features. By the way, the joystick
has
> only four shortcuts incorporated .... one for each direction.
>
>
> |
> | After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular.
> | I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I
> don't
> | understand why they sell such crap as SE T616.
>
> The lack of understanding of such a high tech piece of equipment would
lead
> anyone to think that <wink>. I hope you bought a featureless phone this
time
> :-P
>
> | Boris
> |
> |
>
>
- 01-16-2004, 03:23 PM #4Boris DyninGuest
Re: My experience with SE T616
Thanks,
After some research I decided to go with Nokia 3595. This seems much better
phone the SE T616 (if not overloaded with crappy features that most people
will never need).
Boris
"aa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I agree with Jason 100%. I have the same t616 and I couldn't
> be happier with its performance and easy to use.
>
> Boris, I think you might keep using regular phones.(No disrespect)
>
> Regards,
>
> Aa
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> "Jason Cothran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > | I received the phone from Cingular. Manual says that it takes 4 hours
to
> > | charge. However, I was charging it for ~12 hours and it didn't finish
> yet!
> >
> > The phone still says charging even after charging is complete. You have
to
> > simply look at the meter, or if you are charging with the phone off,
when
> > the red light on the joystick goes off.
> >
> >
> > | Desktop is supposed to show icons for different groups of
functionality.
> > | However, in that phone desktop was showing some strange circles
instead
> of
> > | icons (as in the manual).
> >
> > The desktop isn't the front screen with all the circles. It is the
screen
> > accessed by pressing the joystick button from the wallpaper page. Pretty
> > simple and explained clearly in the manual. The funny "circles" is the
> > default cingular theme installed which is easily changed from within the
> > theme menu from the desktop.
> >
> >
> > | The phone has + and - buttons on the side. Manual seems to imply
those
> > | control sound volume.
> > | However, I wasn't able to make sound any louder using those buttons
(and
> I
> > | could barely hear person on other side).
> >
> > The phone doesn't get extremely loud, but yes the buttons on the side do
> > control the volume, but while in call only.
> >
> >
> > | In addition, buttons functionality is heavily overloaded (there're so
> many
> > | different shotcuts using joystick, for example).
> >
> >
> > Unless you want a phone with 8 million buttons, thats what you get when
> you
> > buy a high quality phone with tons of features. By the way, the joystick
> has
> > only four shortcuts incorporated .... one for each direction.
> >
> >
> > |
> > | After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular.
> > | I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I
> > don't
> > | understand why they sell such crap as SE T616.
> >
> > The lack of understanding of such a high tech piece of equipment would
> lead
> > anyone to think that <wink>. I hope you bought a featureless phone this
> time
> > :-P
> >
> > | Boris
> > |
> > |
> >
> >
>
>
- 01-17-2004, 08:46 AM #5Jason CothranGuest
Re: My experience with SE T616
"Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
| Thanks,
|
| After some research I decided to go with Nokia 3595. This seems much
better
| phone the SE T616 (if not overloaded with crappy features that most people
| will never need).
|
If all you need is the phone and not any other features, then th 3595 should
suffice, even though it isn't quite as good at even being just a phone. As
far as being a better phone, I whole heartedly disagree, as do most
professional reviews, but of course those are just opinions based on facts
of phone performance (rf, clarity, dropped calls, etc.).
- 01-17-2004, 10:28 AM #6Steven M. ScharfGuest
Re: My experience with SE T616
"Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular.
> I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I
don't
> understand why they sell such crap as SE T616.
SE phones have never been great. Consumer Reports had the SE T616 in last
place in their phone ratings, and gave special mention to the problems with
the SE T62u.
BTW, Consumer Reports rated Cingular as the worst carrier in the area, as
did last year's Consumer Checkbook article (actually I think they had Nextel
below Cingular). You have a low standard for decency.
- 01-17-2004, 02:45 PM #7Boris DyninGuest
Re: My experience with SE T616
http://reviews.cnet.com/Nokia_3595/4...?tag=pdtl-list
"Solid call quality...strong battery life" is what I need. As I said, my SE
T616 had LESS than solid call quality: I could barely hear person on other
side during calls (and volume control buttons were of no use either).
Boris
"Jason Cothran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> | Thanks,
> |
> | After some research I decided to go with Nokia 3595. This seems much
> better
> | phone the SE T616 (if not overloaded with crappy features that most
people
> | will never need).
> |
>
> If all you need is the phone and not any other features, then th 3595
should
> suffice, even though it isn't quite as good at even being just a phone. As
> far as being a better phone, I whole heartedly disagree, as do most
> professional reviews, but of course those are just opinions based on facts
> of phone performance (rf, clarity, dropped calls, etc.).
>
>
- 01-17-2004, 03:31 PM #8Boris DyninGuest
Re: My experience with SE T616
"Steven M. Scharf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> "Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular.
> > I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I
> don't
> > understand why they sell such crap as SE T616.
>
> SE phones have never been great. Consumer Reports had the SE T616 in last
> place in their phone ratings, and gave special mention to the problems
with
> the SE T62u.
>
> BTW, Consumer Reports rated Cingular as the worst carrier in the area, as
> did last year's Consumer Checkbook article (actually I think they had
Nextel
> below Cingular). You have a low standard for decency.
Besides Cingular I user Sprint Wireless in SF Bay Area. But it was worse
actually. For example, at lake Tahoe my Sprint phone didn't work. Also, I
had awful customer service experience with Sprint. 1st several months after
service started they didn't charge me at all, but afterwards they started
sending bills >1 time a month to compensate for that. So, I never knew if
they were double-charging me or not. They also used to send me letters
stating smthg like: We sent you a bill earlier, but please don't pay it
because it was an error.
Boris
- 01-17-2004, 03:54 PM #9Boris DyninGuest
Re: My experience with SE T616
Correction: it was MCI - not Sprint.
I subscribed over the phone using newspaper ad. It turned out some kind of
joint venture between Sprint and MCI. Later, MCI customer service would tell
me that my provider is Sprint, and Sprint C.R. - that it's MCI. I wasn't
charged at all during 1st 6 mo. or so of service. But eventually, I started
receiving bills from MCI.
Boris
"Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Steven M. Scharf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
> > "Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> > > After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular.
> > > I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I
> > don't
> > > understand why they sell such crap as SE T616.
> >
> > SE phones have never been great. Consumer Reports had the SE T616 in
last
> > place in their phone ratings, and gave special mention to the problems
> with
> > the SE T62u.
> >
> > BTW, Consumer Reports rated Cingular as the worst carrier in the area,
as
> > did last year's Consumer Checkbook article (actually I think they had
> Nextel
> > below Cingular). You have a low standard for decency.
> Besides Cingular I user Sprint Wireless in SF Bay Area. But it was worse
> actually. For example, at lake Tahoe my Sprint phone didn't work. Also, I
> had awful customer service experience with Sprint. 1st several months
after
> service started they didn't charge me at all, but afterwards they started
> sending bills >1 time a month to compensate for that. So, I never knew if
> they were double-charging me or not. They also used to send me letters
> stating smthg like: We sent you a bill earlier, but please don't pay it
> because it was an error.
>
> Boris
>
>
- 01-18-2004, 09:44 AM #10Mike S.Guest
Re: My experience with SE T616
In article <[email protected]>,
Jason Cothran <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>| Thanks,
>|
>| After some research I decided to go with Nokia 3595. This seems much
>better
>| phone the SE T616 (if not overloaded with crappy features that most people
>| will never need).
>|
>
>If all you need is the phone and not any other features, then th 3595 should
>suffice, even though it isn't quite as good at even being just a phone. As
>far as being a better phone, I whole heartedly disagree, as do most
>professional reviews, but of course those are just opinions based on facts
>of phone performance (rf, clarity, dropped calls, etc.).
The 3595 has very hot RF performance, LOUD (if somewhat shrill) audio, a
LOUD ringer, and excellent battery life. Most reviews/reviewers/postings
on these features are in agreement. Its color screen sucks - poor
implementation, dim, poor contrast, poor resolution. If all you need is
the phone, it fits the bill extremely well and at low cost.
- 01-19-2004, 10:11 AM #11Steven ScharfGuest
Re: My experience with SE T616
"Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Besides Cingular I user Sprint Wireless in SF Bay Area. But it was worse
> actually. For example, at lake Tahoe my Sprint phone didn't work.
You should have been able to roam onto Verizon, or onto AMPS up there,
if you has a tri-band phone.
> Also, I had awful customer service experience with Sprint.
Yes, they are famous for their customer service.
- 01-19-2004, 07:55 PM #12Boris DyninGuest
Re: My experience with SE T616
"Steven Scharf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
>
> > Besides Cingular I user Sprint Wireless in SF Bay Area. But it was worse
> > actually. For example, at lake Tahoe my Sprint phone didn't work.
>
> You should have been able to roam onto Verizon, or onto AMPS up there,
> if you has a tri-band phone.
My current phone: Nokia which's ~1.5 years old - works fine at Lake Tahoe
area (via Cingular).
But I doubt that it's a GSM phone; it's probably TDMA.
Boris
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