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  1. #1
    Boris Dynin
    Guest
    I received the phone from Cingular. Manual says that it takes 4 hours to
    charge. However, I was charging it for ~12 hours and it didn't finish yet!
    Desktop is supposed to show icons for different groups of functionality.
    However, in that phone desktop was showing some strange circles instead of
    icons (as in the manual).
    The phone has + and - buttons on the side. Manual seems to imply those
    control sound volume.
    However, I wasn't able to make sound any louder using those buttons (and I
    could barely hear person on other side).
    In addition, buttons functionality is heavily overloaded (there're so many
    different shotcuts using joystick, for example).

    After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular.
    I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I don't
    understand why they sell such crap as SE T616.

    Boris





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  2. #2
    Jason Cothran
    Guest

    Re: My experience with SE T616


    "Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    | I received the phone from Cingular. Manual says that it takes 4 hours to
    | charge. However, I was charging it for ~12 hours and it didn't finish yet!

    The phone still says charging even after charging is complete. You have to
    simply look at the meter, or if you are charging with the phone off, when
    the red light on the joystick goes off.


    | Desktop is supposed to show icons for different groups of functionality.
    | However, in that phone desktop was showing some strange circles instead of
    | icons (as in the manual).

    The desktop isn't the front screen with all the circles. It is the screen
    accessed by pressing the joystick button from the wallpaper page. Pretty
    simple and explained clearly in the manual. The funny "circles" is the
    default cingular theme installed which is easily changed from within the
    theme menu from the desktop.


    | The phone has + and - buttons on the side. Manual seems to imply those
    | control sound volume.
    | However, I wasn't able to make sound any louder using those buttons (and I
    | could barely hear person on other side).

    The phone doesn't get extremely loud, but yes the buttons on the side do
    control the volume, but while in call only.


    | In addition, buttons functionality is heavily overloaded (there're so many
    | different shotcuts using joystick, for example).


    Unless you want a phone with 8 million buttons, thats what you get when you
    buy a high quality phone with tons of features. By the way, the joystick has
    only four shortcuts incorporated .... one for each direction.


    |
    | After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular.
    | I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I
    don't
    | understand why they sell such crap as SE T616.

    The lack of understanding of such a high tech piece of equipment would lead
    anyone to think that <wink>. I hope you bought a featureless phone this time
    :-P

    | Boris
    |
    |





  3. #3
    aa
    Guest

    Re: My experience with SE T616

    I agree with Jason 100%. I have the same t616 and I couldn't
    be happier with its performance and easy to use.

    Boris, I think you might keep using regular phones.(No disrespect)

    Regards,

    Aa

    --------------------------------------------------------
    "Jason Cothran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > | I received the phone from Cingular. Manual says that it takes 4 hours to
    > | charge. However, I was charging it for ~12 hours and it didn't finish

    yet!
    >
    > The phone still says charging even after charging is complete. You have to
    > simply look at the meter, or if you are charging with the phone off, when
    > the red light on the joystick goes off.
    >
    >
    > | Desktop is supposed to show icons for different groups of functionality.
    > | However, in that phone desktop was showing some strange circles instead

    of
    > | icons (as in the manual).
    >
    > The desktop isn't the front screen with all the circles. It is the screen
    > accessed by pressing the joystick button from the wallpaper page. Pretty
    > simple and explained clearly in the manual. The funny "circles" is the
    > default cingular theme installed which is easily changed from within the
    > theme menu from the desktop.
    >
    >
    > | The phone has + and - buttons on the side. Manual seems to imply those
    > | control sound volume.
    > | However, I wasn't able to make sound any louder using those buttons (and

    I
    > | could barely hear person on other side).
    >
    > The phone doesn't get extremely loud, but yes the buttons on the side do
    > control the volume, but while in call only.
    >
    >
    > | In addition, buttons functionality is heavily overloaded (there're so

    many
    > | different shotcuts using joystick, for example).
    >
    >
    > Unless you want a phone with 8 million buttons, thats what you get when

    you
    > buy a high quality phone with tons of features. By the way, the joystick

    has
    > only four shortcuts incorporated .... one for each direction.
    >
    >
    > |
    > | After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular.
    > | I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I
    > don't
    > | understand why they sell such crap as SE T616.
    >
    > The lack of understanding of such a high tech piece of equipment would

    lead
    > anyone to think that <wink>. I hope you bought a featureless phone this

    time
    > :-P
    >
    > | Boris
    > |
    > |
    >
    >






  4. #4
    Boris Dynin
    Guest

    Re: My experience with SE T616

    Thanks,

    After some research I decided to go with Nokia 3595. This seems much better
    phone the SE T616 (if not overloaded with crappy features that most people
    will never need).

    Boris

    "aa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I agree with Jason 100%. I have the same t616 and I couldn't
    > be happier with its performance and easy to use.
    >
    > Boris, I think you might keep using regular phones.(No disrespect)
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Aa
    >
    > --------------------------------------------------------
    > "Jason Cothran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > "Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > | I received the phone from Cingular. Manual says that it takes 4 hours

    to
    > > | charge. However, I was charging it for ~12 hours and it didn't finish

    > yet!
    > >
    > > The phone still says charging even after charging is complete. You have

    to
    > > simply look at the meter, or if you are charging with the phone off,

    when
    > > the red light on the joystick goes off.
    > >
    > >
    > > | Desktop is supposed to show icons for different groups of

    functionality.
    > > | However, in that phone desktop was showing some strange circles

    instead
    > of
    > > | icons (as in the manual).
    > >
    > > The desktop isn't the front screen with all the circles. It is the

    screen
    > > accessed by pressing the joystick button from the wallpaper page. Pretty
    > > simple and explained clearly in the manual. The funny "circles" is the
    > > default cingular theme installed which is easily changed from within the
    > > theme menu from the desktop.
    > >
    > >
    > > | The phone has + and - buttons on the side. Manual seems to imply

    those
    > > | control sound volume.
    > > | However, I wasn't able to make sound any louder using those buttons

    (and
    > I
    > > | could barely hear person on other side).
    > >
    > > The phone doesn't get extremely loud, but yes the buttons on the side do
    > > control the volume, but while in call only.
    > >
    > >
    > > | In addition, buttons functionality is heavily overloaded (there're so

    > many
    > > | different shotcuts using joystick, for example).
    > >
    > >
    > > Unless you want a phone with 8 million buttons, thats what you get when

    > you
    > > buy a high quality phone with tons of features. By the way, the joystick

    > has
    > > only four shortcuts incorporated .... one for each direction.
    > >
    > >
    > > |
    > > | After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular.
    > > | I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I
    > > don't
    > > | understand why they sell such crap as SE T616.
    > >
    > > The lack of understanding of such a high tech piece of equipment would

    > lead
    > > anyone to think that <wink>. I hope you bought a featureless phone this

    > time
    > > :-P
    > >
    > > | Boris
    > > |
    > > |
    > >
    > >

    >
    >






  5. #5
    Jason Cothran
    Guest

    Re: My experience with SE T616


    "Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    | Thanks,
    |
    | After some research I decided to go with Nokia 3595. This seems much
    better
    | phone the SE T616 (if not overloaded with crappy features that most people
    | will never need).
    |

    If all you need is the phone and not any other features, then th 3595 should
    suffice, even though it isn't quite as good at even being just a phone. As
    far as being a better phone, I whole heartedly disagree, as do most
    professional reviews, but of course those are just opinions based on facts
    of phone performance (rf, clarity, dropped calls, etc.).





  6. #6
    Steven M. Scharf
    Guest

    Re: My experience with SE T616

    "Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    > After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular.
    > I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I

    don't
    > understand why they sell such crap as SE T616.


    SE phones have never been great. Consumer Reports had the SE T616 in last
    place in their phone ratings, and gave special mention to the problems with
    the SE T62u.

    BTW, Consumer Reports rated Cingular as the worst carrier in the area, as
    did last year's Consumer Checkbook article (actually I think they had Nextel
    below Cingular). You have a low standard for decency.





  7. #7
    Boris Dynin
    Guest

    Re: My experience with SE T616

    http://reviews.cnet.com/Nokia_3595/4...?tag=pdtl-list

    "Solid call quality...strong battery life" is what I need. As I said, my SE
    T616 had LESS than solid call quality: I could barely hear person on other
    side during calls (and volume control buttons were of no use either).

    Boris


    "Jason Cothran" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > | Thanks,
    > |
    > | After some research I decided to go with Nokia 3595. This seems much
    > better
    > | phone the SE T616 (if not overloaded with crappy features that most

    people
    > | will never need).
    > |
    >
    > If all you need is the phone and not any other features, then th 3595

    should
    > suffice, even though it isn't quite as good at even being just a phone. As
    > far as being a better phone, I whole heartedly disagree, as do most
    > professional reviews, but of course those are just opinions based on facts
    > of phone performance (rf, clarity, dropped calls, etc.).
    >
    >






  8. #8
    Boris Dynin
    Guest

    Re: My experience with SE T616

    "Steven M. Scharf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]...
    > "Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    > > After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular.
    > > I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I

    > don't
    > > understand why they sell such crap as SE T616.

    >
    > SE phones have never been great. Consumer Reports had the SE T616 in last
    > place in their phone ratings, and gave special mention to the problems

    with
    > the SE T62u.
    >
    > BTW, Consumer Reports rated Cingular as the worst carrier in the area, as
    > did last year's Consumer Checkbook article (actually I think they had

    Nextel
    > below Cingular). You have a low standard for decency.

    Besides Cingular I user Sprint Wireless in SF Bay Area. But it was worse
    actually. For example, at lake Tahoe my Sprint phone didn't work. Also, I
    had awful customer service experience with Sprint. 1st several months after
    service started they didn't charge me at all, but afterwards they started
    sending bills >1 time a month to compensate for that. So, I never knew if
    they were double-charging me or not. They also used to send me letters
    stating smthg like: We sent you a bill earlier, but please don't pay it
    because it was an error.

    Boris





  9. #9
    Boris Dynin
    Guest

    Re: My experience with SE T616

    Correction: it was MCI - not Sprint.
    I subscribed over the phone using newspaper ad. It turned out some kind of
    joint venture between Sprint and MCI. Later, MCI customer service would tell
    me that my provider is Sprint, and Sprint C.R. - that it's MCI. I wasn't
    charged at all during 1st 6 mo. or so of service. But eventually, I started
    receiving bills from MCI.

    Boris
    "Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "Steven M. Scharf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news[email protected]...
    > > "Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > > After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular.
    > > > I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I

    > > don't
    > > > understand why they sell such crap as SE T616.

    > >
    > > SE phones have never been great. Consumer Reports had the SE T616 in

    last
    > > place in their phone ratings, and gave special mention to the problems

    > with
    > > the SE T62u.
    > >
    > > BTW, Consumer Reports rated Cingular as the worst carrier in the area,

    as
    > > did last year's Consumer Checkbook article (actually I think they had

    > Nextel
    > > below Cingular). You have a low standard for decency.

    > Besides Cingular I user Sprint Wireless in SF Bay Area. But it was worse
    > actually. For example, at lake Tahoe my Sprint phone didn't work. Also, I
    > had awful customer service experience with Sprint. 1st several months

    after
    > service started they didn't charge me at all, but afterwards they started
    > sending bills >1 time a month to compensate for that. So, I never knew if
    > they were double-charging me or not. They also used to send me letters
    > stating smthg like: We sent you a bill earlier, but please don't pay it
    > because it was an error.
    >
    > Boris
    >
    >






  10. #10
    Mike S.
    Guest

    Re: My experience with SE T616


    In article <[email protected]>,
    Jason Cothran <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >"Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >| Thanks,
    >|
    >| After some research I decided to go with Nokia 3595. This seems much
    >better
    >| phone the SE T616 (if not overloaded with crappy features that most people
    >| will never need).
    >|
    >
    >If all you need is the phone and not any other features, then th 3595 should
    >suffice, even though it isn't quite as good at even being just a phone. As
    >far as being a better phone, I whole heartedly disagree, as do most
    >professional reviews, but of course those are just opinions based on facts
    >of phone performance (rf, clarity, dropped calls, etc.).



    The 3595 has very hot RF performance, LOUD (if somewhat shrill) audio, a
    LOUD ringer, and excellent battery life. Most reviews/reviewers/postings
    on these features are in agreement. Its color screen sucks - poor
    implementation, dim, poor contrast, poor resolution. If all you need is
    the phone, it fits the bill extremely well and at low cost.






  11. #11
    Steven Scharf
    Guest

    Re: My experience with SE T616

    "Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

    > Besides Cingular I user Sprint Wireless in SF Bay Area. But it was worse
    > actually. For example, at lake Tahoe my Sprint phone didn't work.


    You should have been able to roam onto Verizon, or onto AMPS up there,
    if you has a tri-band phone.

    > Also, I had awful customer service experience with Sprint.


    Yes, they are famous for their customer service.



  12. #12
    Boris Dynin
    Guest

    Re: My experience with SE T616

    "Steven Scharf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "Boris Dynin" <[email protected]> wrote in message

    news:<[email protected]>...
    >
    > > Besides Cingular I user Sprint Wireless in SF Bay Area. But it was worse
    > > actually. For example, at lake Tahoe my Sprint phone didn't work.

    >
    > You should have been able to roam onto Verizon, or onto AMPS up there,
    > if you has a tri-band phone.

    My current phone: Nokia which's ~1.5 years old - works fine at Lake Tahoe
    area (via Cingular).
    But I doubt that it's a GSM phone; it's probably TDMA.

    Boris





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