Cops want you to junk your cellphone, buy a new one with Big Brother inside

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 00:51:58 GMT, John F <[email protected]> wrote:

> Whatever it is you're quoting means nothing to me.
>
> "Mark Allread" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...

>> [John Stuart Mill] - On Liberty

It's obvious that a top-poster wouldn't know the works of John Stuart Mill.

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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:01:44 -0500, Mark Allread <[email protected]>
chose to add this to the great equation of life, the universe, and
everything:

>On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 16:51:57 GMT, John Navas <[email protected]>
>wrote:

>> To some; not to others. It does however make it reasonable, since the
>> public good outweighs the small incremental cost.
>
>Spoken like a true fascist. Mill's second danger to liberty:
>
>"Like other tyrannies, the tyranny of the majority was at first, and is still
>vulgarly, held in dread, chiefly as operating through the acts of the public
>authorities. But reflecting persons perceived that when society is itself the
>tyrant — society collectively over the separate individuals who compose it —
>its means of tyrannizing are not restricted to the acts which it may do by the
>hands of its political functionaries. Society can and does execute its own
>mandates; and if it issues wrong mandates instead of right, or any mandates at
>all in things with which it ought not to meddle, it practices a social tyranny
>more formidable than many kinds of political oppression, since, though not
>usually upheld by such extreme penalties, it leaves fewer means of escape,
>penetrating much more deeply into the details of life, and enslaving the soul
>itself. Protection, therefore, against the tyranny of the magistrate is not
>enough; there needs protection also against the tyranny of the prevailing
>opinion and feeling, against the tendency of society to impose, by other means
>than civil penalties, its own ideas and practices as rules of conduct on those
>who dissent from them; to fetter the development and, if possible, prevent the
>formation of any individuality not in harmony with its ways, and compel all
>characters to fashion themselves upon the model of its own. There is a limit
>to the legitimate interference of collective opinion with individual independence;
>and to find that limit, and maintain it against encroachment, is as indispensable
>to a good condition of human affairs as protection against political despotism."
>
>— On Liberty, The Library of Liberal Arts edition, p.7.

Thank you for making a wonderful argument against the activities of the
Department of Homeland Security and also against the Marriage Amendment.

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Oh, but they are so perfect for holding those Listerine pocket strips!

"Frank S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Like watch pockets in my jeans
>
> Yeah, I hate that!!!
>
> LOL!
>
> -Frank
>
>

Witty comeback.

"Mark Allread" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 00:51:58 GMT, John F <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Whatever it is you're quoting means nothing to me.
> >
> > "Mark Allread" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news[email protected]...
>
> >> [John Stuart Mill] - On Liberty
>
> It's obvious that a top-poster wouldn't know the works of John Stuart
Mill.
>
> --
> Mark

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:35:20 -0800, Jesse McGrew wrote:

> Whenever any technology is shown on CSI, you can be 99% sure it doesn't
> really work that way in real life. I don't know why they even bother
> using computers and science jargon on there... it's not a show about
> police officers, it's a show about wizards in uniform, using their magic
> powers to solve crimes.
>
> Jesse

Yea, and like the real CSI's have the time and resources to chase every
unsolved crime.

> | You can turn it off, but you were still forced to buy something you didn't
> | ask for.
>
> Like watch pockets in my jeans or the spare tire in my car. Likely never
> use either but it's part of the package. As to government requirements
> check your car, have seat belts, anti polution gear, air bags? same
> difference.

True, but it doesn't make it right.

Jesse McGrew <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> HiTechMan wrote:
> >
> >
> > Steven J Sobol wrote:
> >
> >> In alt.cellular John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> >>>
> >>> In <[email protected]> on Sat, 21
> >>> Feb 2004
> >>> 21:31:29 GMT, "Ron Marraccini" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Look what's happening to certain people who have been speaking out
> >>>> against
> >>>> government policy lately ie Iraq, etc etc.; careers ruined, baggage
> >>>> searches
> >>>> at every airport, etc. etc.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Which people (by name)?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I don't know about careers being ruined, but Dubya does like to corral
> >> protesters into areas where they won't be heard by too many people...
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/3cptb
> >>
> >
> >
> > In the Klinton tradition..
> >
> [snip]
>
> Who is this "Klinton"? Was he some kind of celebrity in the right-wing
> wacko alternate universe?

I don't know, just like I don't know who the "Bushies" or "Dubya" is.
From what I remember, the Presidents since the 80's went: Reagan,
Bush, Clinton, Bush.

> > Which people (by name)?
>
>
> I don't know about careers being ruined, but Dubya does like to corral
> protesters into areas where they won't be heard by too many people...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3cptb

Gee, nice balance article, where only one side of the story is told.
I also love the fact that the article quotes other newspaper stories,
instead of actual sources. That's quite a trick.