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  1. #1
    XFF
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    See http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html

    All regional maps have been brought up to date and should now reflect
    the current cellular licensees for each market. In addition to numerous
    small fixes and corrections, the latest round of updates reflects the
    following major changes:

    08/01/03 FL/GA ATTWS completes acquisition of 10 markets from USCC
    09/23/03 AZ ALLTEL completes acquisition of 1 market from WWCA
    10/16/03 IA Midwest Wireless completes acquisition of 3 markets from
    Cellcom
    01/11/04 MN/WI WWCA completes acquisition of 2 markets from HickoryTech
    02/07/04 LA Cingular completes acquisition of 3 markets from US Unwired
    02/17/04 MD Cingular completes acquisition of 1 market from Dobson
    Cellular Systems
    02/24/04 TX ATTWS completes acquisition of 6 markets from USCC
    03/02/04 OR ATTWS completes acquisition of 1 market from Rural Cellular
    Corporation

    Please feel free to reply with your comments, corrections, and other
    helpful contributions.

    PS: The Cingular/ATTWS acquisition has not yet been completed, and the
    maps will not be updated until the companies have formally merged and
    the affected markets have actually transitioned ownership, so there's no
    need to comment on these pending changes.



    See More: cellular license maps updated




  2. #2
    Robert M.
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    Re: cellular license maps updated

    In article <[email protected]>, XFF <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > See http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html
    >
    > All regional maps have been brought up to date and should now reflect
    > the current cellular licensees for each market. In addition to numerous
    > small fixes and corrections, the latest round of updates reflects the
    > following major changes:
    >
    > 08/01/03 FL/GA ATTWS completes acquisition of 10 markets from USCC
    > 09/23/03 AZ ALLTEL completes acquisition of 1 market from WWCA
    > 10/16/03 IA Midwest Wireless completes acquisition of 3 markets from
    > Cellcom
    > 01/11/04 MN/WI WWCA completes acquisition of 2 markets from HickoryTech
    > 02/07/04 LA Cingular completes acquisition of 3 markets from US Unwired
    > 02/17/04 MD Cingular completes acquisition of 1 market from Dobson
    > Cellular Systems
    > 02/24/04 TX ATTWS completes acquisition of 6 markets from USCC
    > 03/02/04 OR ATTWS completes acquisition of 1 market from Rural Cellular
    > Corporation
    >
    > Please feel free to reply with your comments, corrections, and other
    > helpful contributions.
    >
    > PS: The Cingular/ATTWS acquisition has not yet been completed, and the
    > maps will not be updated until the companies have formally merged and
    > the affected markets have actually transitioned ownership, so there's no
    > need to comment on these pending changes.



    Apparently ATTWs has new all inclusive roaming agreements with Cingular.

    http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040414/nyw030_1.html



  3. #3
    Casey
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    Re: cellular license maps updated

    Robert M. wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>, XFF <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>See http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html
    >>
    >>All regional maps have been brought up to date and should now reflect
    >>the current cellular licensees for each market. In addition to numerous
    >>small fixes and corrections, the latest round of updates reflects the
    >>following major changes:
    >>
    >>08/01/03 FL/GA ATTWS completes acquisition of 10 markets from USCC
    >>09/23/03 AZ ALLTEL completes acquisition of 1 market from WWCA
    >>10/16/03 IA Midwest Wireless completes acquisition of 3 markets from
    >>Cellcom
    >>01/11/04 MN/WI WWCA completes acquisition of 2 markets from HickoryTech
    >>02/07/04 LA Cingular completes acquisition of 3 markets from US Unwired
    >>02/17/04 MD Cingular completes acquisition of 1 market from Dobson
    >>Cellular Systems
    >>02/24/04 TX ATTWS completes acquisition of 6 markets from USCC
    >>03/02/04 OR ATTWS completes acquisition of 1 market from Rural Cellular
    >>Corporation
    >>
    >>Please feel free to reply with your comments, corrections, and other
    >>helpful contributions.
    >>
    >>PS: The Cingular/ATTWS acquisition has not yet been completed, and the
    >>maps will not be updated until the companies have formally merged and
    >>the affected markets have actually transitioned ownership, so there's no
    >>need to comment on these pending changes.

    >
    >
    >
    > Apparently ATTWs has new all inclusive roaming agreements with Cingular.
    >
    > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040414/nyw030_1.html

    What does celluar "A side" & "B side" mean?

    Casey



  4. #4
    Diamond Dave
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    Re: cellular license maps updated

    On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:05:08 GMT, Casey <[email protected]> wrote:

    >What does celluar "A side" & "B side" mean?
    >
    >Casey


    The original 800 MHz cellular band is actually two bands. These are
    labeled "A" and "B". Originally, the "A" side was for cellular
    companies who are non telephone company (non-Bell or non incumbent
    LEC). The "B" side were typically telephone company owned or
    regional/Baby Bell owned.

    The 800 MHz band was originally analog (called AMPS or Advanced Mobile
    Phone Service). These days the 800 MHz band can be AMPS, TDMA, CDMA or
    GSM or any combination.

    In modern times, the original structure has mostly faded away. With
    modern deregulation and acquistions over a period of 20+ years, you'll
    find telco owned cell systems on the A side and non telco on the B
    side.

    The PCS band (1900 Mhz) has up to 6 bands known as PCS "A" through PCS
    "F". The PCS band has no analog, but can be any combination of any
    digital format (TDMA, GSM, CDMA)

    Typically, Verizon is on the cellular "B" side, Cingular and AT&T are
    on the cellular "A" side. Sprint is always in the PCS band as is
    T-Mobile.

    But these days, it really doesn't matter who is where and many phones
    are multi-band compatible. Verizon is in the cellular "A" band in
    several markets. And in other markets, VZW, AT&T and Cingular are in
    the 1900 MHz PCS bands. So the original order of things no longer hold
    true.

    Before anyone asks, Nextel, Nevada Wireless, Telus MIKE and Southern
    LINC (and a couple of others) are a special cases. These use a
    technology called iDEN (similar to TDMA) and are in a special
    frequency band called the SMR (Specialized Mobile Radio) band which is
    just below the 800 MHz cellular bands.

    Dave




  5. #5
    XFF
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    Re: cellular license maps updated

    Casey <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

    > What does celluar "A side" & "B side" mean?


    It refers to how the cellular spectrum is partitioned into two blocks
    to allow for competition between 2 carriers in each market. See
    http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/cel.../bandplan.html for
    details.



  6. #6
    Andrew Shepherd
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    Re: cellular license maps updated

    XFF <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > See http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html
    >
    > All regional maps have been brought up to date and should now reflect
    > the current cellular licensees for each market. In addition to numerous
    > small fixes and corrections, the latest round of updates reflects the
    > following major changes:


    Or, if you should prefer a complete national perspective, the
    nationwide Cellular Block A & Block B maps have now also been posted.

    http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/Natl_Cell_A.html
    http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/Natl_Cell_B.html

    Everyone give XFF a virtual pat on the back!

    Andrew
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    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    http://www.ku.edu/home/cinema/



  7. #7
    Andrew Shepherd
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    Re: cellular license maps updated

    [email protected]pamfree (John S.) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    >
    > Although your statement about real competition is correct, the rest is sheer
    > tripe.
    >
    > The "B" side of cellular was the local wireline company. If more than one
    > wireline company (Southwestern Bell and GTE in Dallas for instance) was in the
    > area they competed to get the lisence or made an agreement so that one or the
    > other got it.
    >
    > As for the "A" side, it was open to any company that wanted to compete for the
    > lisence. Among other things the companies had to show fiscal responsibility
    > enough that they could build the market once they got the lisence.
    >
    > This was for the MSA (Metropolitan Service Areas). When it came to the "B" side
    > RSA's, the wireline companies had to compete in a lottery.
    >
    > For the "A" side any one could compete for the lisence and small companies and
    > large all tried their hand at getting the lisence. A freind of mine won the
    > lottery for Illinois 5 and made millions a few years later when he sold it.


    All of the above only further demonstrates that Cellular is a wholly
    different paradigm than PCS, that Cellular should continue to be
    subject to more stringent oversight than PCS.

    Two decades ago, Cellular licencees were either given their licenses
    gratis or won them for a modest price. Even accounting for economic
    inflation - which was exponentially surpassed by the increase in value
    of the electromagnetic spectrum - Cellular licensees paid nowhere
    near the millions, even billions bid by the PCS licensees in the
    1990s. Why should Cellular get the better spectrum plus a free or
    reduced-price ride? Thus, it is entirely sensible that the merged
    Cingular-AT&TWS should not be allowed to aggregate its overlapping
    Cellular licenses. Any comparisons to similar coincident license
    acquisitions in the PCS band are purely moot.

    > Only occasionally did another regions "Bell" company get the "A" side of a
    > market. I can think of only 2 - Chicago (SID 0001) was/is owned by Southwestern
    > Bell Mobile Systems ( now Cingular) as was Boston and upstate New York.


    In addition to the aforementioned SBC A-side forays into Boston,
    Buffalo, & Chicago outside its RBOC region, the following primary
    examples also come to mind (some of which have experienced relatively
    recent changes in control):

    AirTouch nee PacTel Cellular A-side: Atlanta, Cincinatti, Cleveland,
    Columbus, Dallas, Detroit, Kansas City, Omaha, San Francisco

    BAM A-side: Albuquerque/El Paso, Phoenix/Tucson

    BellSouth A-side: Houston, Indianapolis, Los Angeles

    SBC A-side: Washington, D.C./Baltimore, New Orleans

    Ameritech A-side: St. Louis

    I cannot claim to know the complete histories behind the preceding
    Cellular A-side licenses. Some, if not many, may not have been
    originally awarded to the attributed Baby Bell operating outside its
    RBOC region, rather some may have been absorbed into the Baby Bell via
    later acquisition.

    Some were offset by partnerships. The Dallas, KC, & San Fran A-side
    licenses were held by CMT Partners LP, a partnership between AirTouch
    nee PacTel & AT&TWS nee McCaw Cellular, and San Fran license was an
    A-side *w/in* PacTel's RBOC region. And the Houston & LA A-side
    licenses were again partnerships between AT&TWS nee McCaw & BellSouth.

    Some came via acquisition. The Omaha A-side license I do believe came
    to VZW from AirTouch's purchase of US West's Cellular assets, yet
    again another example of an A-side *inside* the RBOC's territory. In
    1999-2000, SBC also briefly held the Radiofone A-side license in New
    Orleans before it was divested to ALLTEL.


    Andrew
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  8. #8
    Andrew Shepherd
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    Re: cellular license maps updated

    [email protected] (LithiaSpgs) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    >
    > At the time, as I recall, cellular was thought of as being a very risky venture
    > and companies were not chomping at the bit to get into it. The phone company
    > and other large corportaions were hesitant to invest billions of dollars into
    > systems with unknown potentials and they probably would not have done so if
    > they had to pay millions more for licenses to do it. At that time, cell phones
    > were basically "car phones" that were installed in a car and cost LOTS of
    > money. It was thought that only very high end customers would use them. But as
    > the service took off and phones got smaller and smaller (we went from bulky car
    > phones to bag phones to brick phones to flip phones), more and more people
    > signed up- even at 75 cents a minute.


    Nice point.

    I understand & appreciate your perspective.

    But that was then. This is now.

    If Cellular licensees wish to escape greater regulatory scrutiny - as
    Cingular-AT&TWS is attempting to do in seeking a waiver of the RSA
    cross-interest rule - then simpy let them ante up the c. 1995 value of
    their Cellular licenses, just as the PCS licensees did during the
    latter half of the 1990s. The fair market price per POP per MHz per
    county for each of the license areas could be readily determined based
    upon the average results of the various PCS auctions. And we would
    not even require the Cellular licensees to pay a premium for their
    longer wavelength 800/850 MHz spectrum. Heaven knows, the U.S.
    Treasury could certainly use the influx of billions upon billions of
    dollars.

    A decade ago, the FCC created the PCS band to catalyze the industry w/
    increased wireless mobile telephone competition against the incumbent
    Cellular duopolies. And now, crying foul, the Cellular licensees wish
    to level the playing field, so to speak. But the field has never been
    quite level. It has always been tilted - free or reduced-price
    licenses, 800/850 MHz propagation, a 10-year buildout advantage - in
    favor of Cellular.

    So, should the Cellular licensees wish to receive the same relatively
    relaxed level of oversight as PCS, let them pony up to the table the
    true value of their licenses. Otherwise, until that implausible day,
    Cellular bears an abiding indenture to the public service that
    necessitates increased governance & tighter restriction.

    In other words, in its role as a servant of the people,
    Cingular-AT&TWS should have to prove that selected monopoly is the
    undeniable best option toward the greater public good. And good luck
    to that!

    Andrew
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    http://www.ku.edu/home/cinema/



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