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- 04-17-2004, 08:18 PM #1messengerGuest
As I said, I just bought the phone with Cingular Nation plan and am
getting lots missed calls. I used ATTWireless before and it was
better than this, at least no missed calls in NYC, unless it's a phone
issue with my Moto V400. Anyone know if Cingular allows its users to
switch to ATTWireless?
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- 04-17-2004, 08:27 PM #2VanHagarSucksGuest
Re: Since Cingular bought ATTWireless, can I switch to ATTWireless?
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 02:18:40 GMT, messenger <[email protected]> wrote:
>As I said, I just bought the phone with Cingular Nation plan and am
>getting lots missed calls. I used ATTWireless before and it was
>better than this, at least no missed calls in NYC, unless it's a phone
>issue with my Moto V400. Anyone know if Cingular allows its users to
>switch to ATTWireless?
what would be the point? you would be switching from cingular to
cingular and the issues would still be there, cingular is
incompetent... cingular could screw up a 2 tin can and a string
network.
"If she's not into postmortem skull****ing, she's not worth dating"
- 04-18-2004, 08:11 AM #3Robert M.Guest
Re: Since Cingular bought ATTWireless, can I switch to ATTWireless?
In article <[email protected]>,
messenger <[email protected]> wrote:
> As I said, I just bought the phone with Cingular Nation plan and am
> getting lots missed calls. I used ATTWireless before and it was
> better than this, at least no missed calls in NYC, unless it's a phone
> issue with my Moto V400. Anyone know if Cingular allows its users to
> switch to ATTWireless?
No they don't, the purchase hasn't gone through yet.
- 04-19-2004, 09:49 PM #4Stuart FriedmanGuest
Re: Since Cingular bought ATTWireless, can I switch to ATTWireless?
That's pretty accurate. I'm an ATT customer and my phone switches pretty
freely to Cingular in my home market. It never did this before last week.
Stu
"Anon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "messenger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > As I said, I just bought the phone with Cingular Nation plan and am
> > getting lots missed calls. I used ATTWireless before and it was
> > better than this, at least no missed calls in NYC, unless it's a phone
> > issue with my Moto V400. Anyone know if Cingular allows its users to
> > switch to ATTWireless?
>
> It's got to be a phone issue with your Moto V400. The reasoning is simple
> and logical. On the Cingular Nation plan, you have access to all the SAME
> TOWERS that you did while you were with ATT. Plus you have access to some
> new ones, as well. Switching from ATT to Cingular Nation, your coverage
can
> only improve. If you are not happy with your new service, it must be your
> handset.
>
> In this very ng recently, there was a thread where several ATT customers
> were reporting they had better coverage recently because they suddenly had
> access to some cingular towers that they previously did not have access
to.
> That confused me, as (on Cingular nation) I've always had access to ATT
> towers, and no problem using ATT's network with no roaming charges. I
came
> to learn (from reading the previous thread) that the cooperative agreement
> between ATT and Cingular was rather lopsided, and heavily favored users of
> Cingular handsets. That is, if you were an ATT customer, you couldn't
> access all the Cingular network, but as a Cingular customer you could
access
> the entire ATT network.
>
> Bottom line, your handset is defective. Switching from ATT to cingular,
you
> should notice no difference OR an improvement in coverage. -Dave
>
>
>
- 04-20-2004, 09:01 AM #5MichaelGuest
Re: Since Cingular bought ATTWireless, can I switch to ATTWireless?
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 02:48:37 GMT, "Anon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"messenger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> As I said, I just bought the phone with Cingular Nation plan and am
>> getting lots missed calls. I used ATTWireless before and it was
>> better than this, at least no missed calls in NYC, unless it's a phone
>> issue with my Moto V400. Anyone know if Cingular allows its users to
>> switch to ATTWireless?
>
>It's got to be a phone issue with your Moto V400. The reasoning is simple
>and logical. On the Cingular Nation plan, you have access to all the SAME
>TOWERS that you did while you were with ATT. Plus you have access to some
>new ones, as well. Switching from ATT to Cingular Nation, your coverage can
>only improve. If you are not happy with your new service, it must be your
>handset.
>
>In this very ng recently, there was a thread where several ATT customers
>were reporting they had better coverage recently because they suddenly had
>access to some cingular towers that they previously did not have access to.
>That confused me, as (on Cingular nation) I've always had access to ATT
>towers, and no problem using ATT's network with no roaming charges. I came
>to learn (from reading the previous thread) that the cooperative agreement
>between ATT and Cingular was rather lopsided, and heavily favored users of
>Cingular handsets. That is, if you were an ATT customer, you couldn't
>access all the Cingular network, but as a Cingular customer you could access
>the entire ATT network.
>
>Bottom line, your handset is defective. Switching from ATT to cingular, you
>should notice no difference OR an improvement in coverage. -Dave
>
I travel from Albany to NYC and the phone changes over just fine from
Cingular to AT&T with no problem, coverage in NYC is better, why who
knows, I have been also to Florida, and NewOrleans and not had a
problem only recently have I been getting missed calls, and voice
mail is not working, and I have the V60i which if I want to change my
plan I have to buy a new phone, so I am going to wait for the V600
with blue tooth technology to come in , with in a month or so, and go
from there. The only thing that keeps me there are the roll over
minutes, Verizon in this area, is OK, but I know too many people
that have them but complain equally about the service and the billing
cycle.
- 04-20-2004, 09:37 AM #6Eric RogersGuest
Re: Since Cingular bought ATTWireless, can I switch to ATTWireless?
Cingular has NOT bought ATT yet, they have only announced an agreement
to merge in the future. The deal isn't expected to close until the
end of the year. In the mean time, the two companies are still
independent, and the federal regulators require that they continue
operating separately until the deal is finished.
"Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> messenger <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > As I said, I just bought the phone with Cingular Nation plan and am
> > getting lots missed calls. I used ATTWireless before and it was
> > better than this, at least no missed calls in NYC, unless it's a phone
> > issue with my Moto V400. Anyone know if Cingular allows its users to
> > switch to ATTWireless?
>
> No they don't, the purchase hasn't gone through yet.
- 04-20-2004, 04:56 PM #7John S.Guest
Re: Since Cingular bought ATTWireless, can I switch to ATTWireless?
>Cingular has NOT bought ATT yet, they have only announced an agreement
>to merge in the future.
No, they BOUGHT AT&T WS outright. It is not a merger and it is (for the most
part) a done deal. It does take time to itegrate the two systems even though
they both use the same technologies.
Don't expect to see a Cingular sign on your favorite AT&T store just yet as
they have said that will probably take place the 4th quarter of 2004.
--
John S.
e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net
- 04-20-2004, 05:11 PM #8shawnbGuest
Re: Since Cingular bought ATTWireless, can I switch to ATTWireless?
"John S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >Cingular has NOT bought ATT yet, they have only announced an agreement
> >to merge in the future.
>
> No, they BOUGHT AT&T WS outright. It is not a merger and it is (for the
most
> part) a done deal. It does take time to itegrate the two systems even
though
> they both use the same technologies.
>
> Don't expect to see a Cingular sign on your favorite AT&T store just yet
as
> they have said that will probably take place the 4th quarter of 2004.
>
> --
> John S.
> e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net
And just for the record, Cingular didn't buy anything. SBC and BellSouth
did.
- 04-20-2004, 06:14 PM #9Paw-PawGuest
Re: Since Cingular bought ATTWireless, can I switch to ATTWireless?
"shawnb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "John S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > >Cingular has NOT bought ATT yet, they have only announced an agreement
> > >to merge in the future.
> >
> > No, they BOUGHT AT&T WS outright. It is not a merger and it is (for the
> most
> > part) a done deal. It does take time to itegrate the two systems even
> though
> > they both use the same technologies.
> >
> > Don't expect to see a Cingular sign on your favorite AT&T store just yet
> as
> > they have said that will probably take place the 4th quarter of 2004.
> >
> > --
> > John S.
> > e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net
>
> And just for the record, Cingular didn't buy anything. SBC and BellSouth
> did.
Interesting.
Who is Cingular?
- 04-21-2004, 03:36 AM #10John S.Guest
Re: Since Cingular bought ATTWireless, can I switch to ATTWireless?
>And just for the record, Cingular didn't buy anything. SBC and BellSouth
>did.
>
:-) Whatever
--
John S.
e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net
- 04-21-2004, 07:19 PM #11MichaelGuest
Re: Since Cingular bought ATTWireless, can I switch to ATTWireless?
On 20 Apr 2004 08:37:11 -0700, [email protected] (Eric Rogers)
wrote:
>Cingular has NOT bought ATT yet, they have only announced an agreement
>to merge in the future. The deal isn't expected to close until the
>end of the year. In the mean time, the two companies are still
>independent, and the federal regulators require that they continue
>operating separately until the deal is finished.
No YOUR WRONG
as of the 1st of the 4th qtr they belong to Cingular, and thats a
FACT JACK or eric
THey are dealing with all the at&t customers that are going to have to
switch over and the billing systems and a contract that says to at&t
customers either you except this new package or you move on.
AND THAT IS / ARE THE FACTS
>"Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> messenger <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > As I said, I just bought the phone with Cingular Nation plan and am
>> > getting lots missed calls. I used ATTWireless before and it was
>> > better than this, at least no missed calls in NYC, unless it's a phone
>> > issue with my Moto V400. Anyone know if Cingular allows its users to
>> > switch to ATTWireless?
>>
>> No they don't, the purchase hasn't gone through yet.
- 04-22-2004, 01:20 AM #12XFFGuest
Re: Since Cingular bought ATTWireless, can I switch to ATTWireless?
Michael <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 20 Apr 2004 08:37:11 -0700, [email protected] (Eric Rogers) wrote:
>
> >Cingular has NOT bought ATT yet, they have only announced an agreement
> >to merge in the future. The deal isn't expected to close until the
> >end of the year. In the mean time, the two companies are still
> >independent, and the federal regulators require that they continue
> >operating separately until the deal is finished.
>
> No YOUR WRONG
> as of the 1st of the 4th qtr they belong to Cingular, and thats a
> FACT JACK or eric
>
> THey are dealing with all the at&t customers that are going to have to
> switch over and the billing systems and a contract that says to at&t
> customers either you except this new package or you move on.
>
> AND THAT IS / ARE THE FACTS
Sorry, but you are absolutely wrong. You might want to re-read the
official press release from 02/17/04
(http://www.attwireless.com/press/rel...s/021704.jhtml).
It says "The acquisition, which is subject to the approvals of AT&T
Wireless shareholders and federal regulatory authorities, and to other
customary closing conditions, is expected to be completed as soon as
late 2004."
In other words, until such approval is received, the acquisition is
not complete and both companies will (and must) continue to operate as
independently controlled, owned, and traded entities.
There are some indications that make it appear as though both
companies are already working towards unified operations. For
instance, AWS' new GSM Nation plans with no roaming charges are very
very similar to Cingular's, not only in coverage area, but also in the
number of anytime minutes per price point, etc. AWS also just
completed its overlay of GSM 850 nationwide, which Cingular is
expected to complete by July.
Nonetheless, both companies are legally separate entities and must
operate as such. The FCC and DoJ also will have a word to say before
the merger becomes final.
- 04-22-2004, 05:19 AM #13Jack MacGuest
Re: Since Cingular bought ATTWireless, can I switch to ATTWireless?
On 22 Apr 2004 00:20:49 -0700, [email protected] (XFF) wrote:
>Michael <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>> On 20 Apr 2004 08:37:11 -0700, [email protected] (Eric Rogers) wrote:
>>
>> >Cingular has NOT bought ATT yet, they have only announced an agreement
>> >to merge in the future. The deal isn't expected to close until the
>> >end of the year. In the mean time, the two companies are still
>> >independent, and the federal regulators require that they continue
>> >operating separately until the deal is finished.
>>
>> No YOUR WRONG
>> as of the 1st of the 4th qtr they belong to Cingular, and thats a
>> FACT JACK or eric
>>
>> THey are dealing with all the at&t customers that are going to have to
>> switch over and the billing systems and a contract that says to at&t
>> customers either you except this new package or you move on.
>>
>> AND THAT IS / ARE THE FACTS
>
>Sorry, but you are absolutely wrong. You might want to re-read the
>official press release from 02/17/04
>(http://www.attwireless.com/press/rel...s/021704.jhtml).
>
>It says "The acquisition, which is subject to the approvals of AT&T
>Wireless shareholders and federal regulatory authorities, and to other
>customary closing conditions, is expected to be completed as soon as
>late 2004."
>
>In other words, until such approval is received, the acquisition is
>not complete and both companies will (and must) continue to operate as
>independently controlled, owned, and traded entities.
>
>There are some indications that make it appear as though both
>companies are already working towards unified operations. For
>instance, AWS' new GSM Nation plans with no roaming charges are very
>very similar to Cingular's, not only in coverage area, but also in the
>number of anytime minutes per price point, etc. AWS also just
>completed its overlay of GSM 850 nationwide, which Cingular is
>expected to complete by July.
>
>Nonetheless, both companies are legally separate entities and must
>operate as such. The FCC and DoJ also will have a word to say before
>the merger becomes final.
Just goes to show that you can't believe everything you read on
these Newsgroups. Even when they are stated so strongly as
"AND THAT IS / ARE THE FACTS"!
The AT&T stockholders don't meet until May 19th in Austin, TX.
Jack Mac
- 04-22-2004, 07:45 AM #14JosephGuest
Re: Since Cingular bought ATTWireless, can I switch to ATTWireless?
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:19:49 -0400, Michael
<[email protected]> wrote:
>No YOUR WRONG
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- 04-26-2004, 07:48 PM #15MichaelGuest
Re: Since Cingular bought ATTWireless, can I switch to ATTWireless?
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 07:19:54 -0400, Jack Mac <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 22 Apr 2004 00:20:49 -0700, [email protected] (XFF) wrote:
>
>>Michael <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>>
>>> On 20 Apr 2004 08:37:11 -0700, [email protected] (Eric Rogers) wrote:
>>>
>>> >Cingular has NOT bought ATT yet, they have only announced an agreement
>>> >to merge in the future. The deal isn't expected to close until the
>>> >end of the year. In the mean time, the two companies are still
>>> >independent, and the federal regulators require that they continue
>>> >operating separately until the deal is finished.
>>>
>>> No YOUR WRONG
>>> as of the 1st of the 4th qtr they belong to Cingular, and thats a
>>> FACT JACK or eric
>>>
>>> THey are dealing with all the at&t customers that are going to have to
>>> switch over and the billing systems and a contract that says to at&t
>>> customers either you except this new package or you move on.
>>>
>>> AND THAT IS / ARE THE FACTS
>>
>>Sorry, but you are absolutely wrong. You might want to re-read the
>>official press release from 02/17/04
>>(http://www.attwireless.com/press/rel...s/021704.jhtml).
>>
>>It says "The acquisition, which is subject to the approvals of AT&T
>>Wireless shareholders and federal regulatory authorities, and to other
>>customary closing conditions, is expected to be completed as soon as
>>late 2004."
>>
>>In other words, until such approval is received, the acquisition is
>>not complete and both companies will (and must) continue to operate as
>>independently controlled, owned, and traded entities.
>>
>>There are some indications that make it appear as though both
>>companies are already working towards unified operations. For
>>instance, AWS' new GSM Nation plans with no roaming charges are very
>>very similar to Cingular's, not only in coverage area, but also in the
>>number of anytime minutes per price point, etc. AWS also just
>>completed its overlay of GSM 850 nationwide, which Cingular is
>>expected to complete by July.
>>
>>Nonetheless, both companies are legally separate entities and must
>>operate as such. The FCC and DoJ also will have a word to say before
>>the merger becomes final.
>
>Just goes to show that you can't believe everything you read on
>these Newsgroups. Even when they are stated so strongly as
>"AND THAT IS / ARE THE FACTS"!
>The AT&T stockholders don't meet until May 19th in Austin, TX.
>
>Jack Mac
>
Yea and the local AT&T wireless stores in my area have already closed
2 brand new stores only open for less than 2 months because of the
this, AND I am wrong , sorry the writing is on the wall
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