Cingular or Verizon,

In article <[email protected]>,
"Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote:

> That's the way it should be, considering they are
> the same company. Yeah, I know the deal isn't finalized yet, but that's a
> mere formality.

They wish. It'll be 6 months minimum, and who knows what requirements
the FTC or the FCC may have.

I guess you don't remember Staples buying Office Depot. That mere
formality never happened.

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"Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I guess you don't remember Staples buying Office Depot. That mere
> formality never happened.

And I guess you don't remember that the main reason that sale didn't go
through was they were #1 and #2 in thier business area with no close third
place to offer fair competition. AFAIK, Cingular and AT&T are not the only
dominate players in thier business. You still have Verizon, Nextel, Alltel,
and Sprint off the top of my head as players in the market.

"Dan Graves" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yep, my plan is 49.99 and my wife's is 19.99, yet my bill each month
> is OVER $100. (usually around $115) And neither one of us goes over
> our package minutes.
>
> Irritating.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:27:10 -0400, "HC" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >I've been with Cingular for almost a year and it strikes me as sort of
odd,
> >how my plan is 39.99, but my bill is always over $50. It would also
depend
> >on your area, I'm in the DC area with Cingular GSM and it sort of sucks,
> >lots of dropped calls, erratic signal, etc. They should have completed
the
> >GSM network before selling service to it. But that just my 2 cents.
> >
> >"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> Either one is always going to give you the shaft, either with
> >> billing, contracts, or some other misc bs.
> >>
Yep, with Cingular in Arkansas, mine 39.99, wife 19.99, 1.29 information
call this month. Total bill $75.62.

bamp

In article <[email protected]>,
"Duncan703" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > I guess you don't remember Staples buying Office Depot. That mere
> > formality never happened.
>
> And I guess you don't remember that the main reason that sale didn't go
> through was they were #1 and #2 in thier business area with no close third
> place to offer fair competition.

Not true at all. There's Office Max, and also, pick any product they
sell, say "staples". The number one retailer for staples is:



Drum Roll:

With 9% of the market (not quite a monopoly) : Walmart

"Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Duncan703" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> > > I guess you don't remember Staples buying Office Depot. That mere
> > > formality never happened.
> >
> > And I guess you don't remember that the main reason that sale didn't go
> > through was they were #1 and #2 in thier business area with no close
third
> > place to offer fair competition.
>
> Not true at all. There's Office Max, and also, pick any product they
> sell, say "staples". The number one retailer for staples is:
>
>
>
> Drum Roll:
>
> With 9% of the market (not quite a monopoly) : Walmart

But that does not make them the number one office supply retailer. Bad
analogy.

Don't blame cingular....it's uncle Sam look at the bill. Taxes, 911
surcharges ,etc.

"bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Dan Graves" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Yep, my plan is 49.99 and my wife's is 19.99, yet my bill each month
> > is OVER $100. (usually around $115) And neither one of us goes over
> > our package minutes.
> >
> > Irritating.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:27:10 -0400, "HC" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I've been with Cingular for almost a year and it strikes me as sort of
> odd,
> > >how my plan is 39.99, but my bill is always over $50. It would also
> depend
> > >on your area, I'm in the DC area with Cingular GSM and it sort of
sucks,
> > >lots of dropped calls, erratic signal, etc. They should have completed
> the
> > >GSM network before selling service to it. But that just my 2 cents.
> > >
> > >"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >news:[email protected]...
> > >> Either one is always going to give you the shaft, either with
> > >> billing, contracts, or some other misc bs.
> > >>
> Yep, with Cingular in Arkansas, mine 39.99, wife 19.99, 1.29 information
> call this month. Total bill $75.62.
>
> bamp
>
>

Not only is it not silly but your analogy is moronic.

Using your analogy, if they use same equipment why not go with ATT with
1,150 minutes for $39.95?

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What do you have hiding in your shed?"Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> > > Apples or oranges?
> > >
> > > Neither. Apples
> > >
> > >
> > I believe he said RED apples.
> >
>
> As opposed to RED apples? Cingular customers have always (AFAIK) roamed
> freely and easily on the ATT network. Recently, that same coverage was
> offered to ATT customers. That is, ATT customers now roam freely and
easily
> on the Cingular network. That's the way it should be, considering they
are
> the same company. Yeah, I know the deal isn't finalized yet, but that's a
> mere formality. If you sign up with ATT now, you will be using the
cingular
> network NOW, and you will be a cingular customer before your contract
> expires. So it's silly to answer (cingular or verizon?) with (neither.
> Cingular) -Dave
>
>

"Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Duncan703" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> > > I guess you don't remember Staples buying Office Depot. That mere
> > > formality never happened.
> >
> > And I guess you don't remember that the main reason that sale didn't go
> > through was they were #1 and #2 in thier business area with no close
third
> > place to offer fair competition.
>
> Not true at all. There's Office Max, and also, pick any product they
> sell, say "staples". The number one retailer for staples is:
>
>
>
> Drum Roll:
>
> With 9% of the market (not quite a monopoly) : Walmart

Perhaps you should reread what I posted and not what you wanted to see
there. I said "they were" not "are". Things have changed since that deal was
to be done.

I can't even think of why you are comparing them to Walmart in any logical
way other than to obfuscate the issue. It's the office supply store business
that we're discussing. Not a particular item for sale.

"Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > > Apples or oranges?
> > >
> > > Neither. Apples
> > >
> > >
> > I believe he said RED apples.
> >
>
> As opposed to RED apples? Cingular customers have always (AFAIK) roamed
> freely and easily on the ATT network. Recently, that same coverage was
> offered to ATT customers. That is, ATT customers now roam freely and
easily
> on the Cingular network. That's the way it should be, considering they
are
> the same company. Yeah, I know the deal isn't finalized yet, but that's a
> mere formality. If you sign up with ATT now, you will be using the
cingular
> network NOW, and you will be a cingular customer before your contract
> expires. So it's silly to answer (cingular or verizon?) with (neither.
> Cingular) -Dave
>
>
That was my point, but I obscured it in subtlety.

In article <[email protected]>,
"Duncan703" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Perhaps you should reread what I posted and not what you wanted to see
> there. I said "they were" not "are". Things have changed since that deal was
> to be done.

The main thing is the industry favoring government now in place.

It was quite controversial when the Feds refused to allow Office Depot
and Staples to merge for far weaker reasons than might be presented in
the Cingular-AT&TWS case now.

I repeat it has hardly a mere formality that the buyout is going through
with Cingular. Likely maybe, a mere formality not so.

> > Not true at all. There's Office Max, and also, pick any product they
> > sell, say "staples". The number one retailer for staples is:
> >
> >
> >
> > Drum Roll:
> >
> > With 9% of the market (not quite a monopoly) : Walmart
>
> But that does not make them the number one office supply retailer. Bad
> analogy.
>
>

Not bad at all. I buy office supplies at walmart as often as I buy office
supplies at staples. Selection and prices are roughly equal, so it doesn't
make that much difference to me. I can't remember the last time I bought
office supplies somewhere other than walmart or staples, but I know I've
spent roughly 50% of my office supply money at BOTH places. -Dave

> Not only is it not silly but your analogy is moronic.
>
> Using your analogy, if they use same equipment why not go with ATT with
> 1,150 minutes for $39.95?
>

That doesn't sound like such a bad deal, actually. Just as long as you go
into the contract realizing that you are actually signing with cingular, and
have no problem with that. We are cingular customers, but cingular isn't
offered in all areas. ATT is generally offered in areas that cingular is
NOT. So if you are looking for GSM service today, just sign up with
ATT/Cingular or Cingular, whatever is offered where you live. -Dave

In my 10 years of cell usage, I (now this is my own personal opinion) have
found them to be all the same really. Very and signals, rude customer
service. I started with I think Airtouch was it in LA.

Knowing what I know now I should have signed with ATT and get rolled into
Cingular.

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"Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Not only is it not silly but your analogy is moronic.
> >
> > Using your analogy, if they use same equipment why not go with ATT with
> > 1,150 minutes for $39.95?
> >
>
> That doesn't sound like such a bad deal, actually. Just as long as you go
> into the contract realizing that you are actually signing with cingular,
and
> have no problem with that. We are cingular customers, but cingular isn't
> offered in all areas. ATT is generally offered in areas that cingular is
> NOT. So if you are looking for GSM service today, just sign up with
> ATT/Cingular or Cingular, whatever is offered where you live. -Dave
>
>

Where did you see AT&T 1150 min for $39.95?
In Southern California, it's $39.99 for 700 min

"iBuyMinis.Us" <[email protected](remove)> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Not only is it not silly but your analogy is moronic.
>
> Using your analogy, if they use same equipment why not go with ATT with
> 1,150 minutes for $39.95?
>
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> What do you have hiding in your shed?"Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote in
> message news:[email protected]...
> > > > Apples or oranges?
> > > >
> > > > Neither. Apples
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I believe he said RED apples.
> > >
> >
> > As opposed to RED apples? Cingular customers have always (AFAIK) roamed
> > freely and easily on the ATT network. Recently, that same coverage was
> > offered to ATT customers. That is, ATT customers now roam freely and
> easily
> > on the Cingular network. That's the way it should be, considering they
> are
> > the same company. Yeah, I know the deal isn't finalized yet, but that's
a
> > mere formality. If you sign up with ATT now, you will be using the
> cingular
> > network NOW, and you will be a cingular customer before your contract
> > expires. So it's silly to answer (cingular or verizon?) with (neither.
> > Cingular) -Dave
> >
> >
>
>

"Richie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Where did you see AT&T 1150 min for $39.95?
> In Southern California, it's $39.99 for 700 min

I've got 1000 min for $39.99 with Cingular in Arkansas!

bamp

>
> "iBuyMinis.Us" <[email protected](remove)> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Not only is it not silly but your analogy is moronic.
> >
> > Using your analogy, if they use same equipment why not go with ATT with
> > 1,150 minutes for $39.95?
> >
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> > What do you have hiding in your shed?"Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote in
> > message news:[email protected]...
> > > > > Apples or oranges?
> > > > >
> > > > > Neither. Apples
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I believe he said RED apples.
> > > >
> > >
> > > As opposed to RED apples? Cingular customers have always (AFAIK)
roamed
> > > freely and easily on the ATT network. Recently, that same coverage
was
> > > offered to ATT customers. That is, ATT customers now roam freely and
> > easily
> > > on the Cingular network. That's the way it should be, considering
they
> > are
> > > the same company. Yeah, I know the deal isn't finalized yet, but
that's
> a
> > > mere formality. If you sign up with ATT now, you will be using the
> > cingular
> > > network NOW, and you will be a cingular customer before your contract
> > > expires. So it's silly to answer (cingular or verizon?) with
(neither.
> > > Cingular) -Dave
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>