Cingular or Verizon,

Either one is always going to give you the shaft, either with
billing, contracts, or some other misc bs.

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In article <[email protected]>,
Michael <[email protected]> wrote:

> Either one is always going to give you the shaft, either with
> billing, contracts, or some other misc bs.

The carriers ALL make their money from charges for excess use, so pick
your plan carefully.

RE/
>
>The carriers ALL make their money from charges for excess use, so pick
>your plan carefully.

I posted this in alt.cellular yesteday.
Appears relevant to the statement above:

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Seems like one way to look at it is that the providers are selling airtime
minutes.

Given that, it seems like they incur some setup overhead for each phone, but
once the phone's set up the incremental cost is zero - unless the extra page on
the bill is considered.

So one would think that there would be a niche for selling a plan to somebody
who would pay a few bucks extra to have, say, three phones on one plan for the
same monthly rate as one - but have a restricted number of "free" minutes. That
way whoever holds those two extra phones (wife, children?) would be potential
sales generators to the extent that they would tend to use them and the account
would get charged for the minutes.

Sounds logical to Yours Truly - but I'm guessing there is a fallacy in it
somewhere since Cingular used to have such a plan and has shut it down in favor
of plans that charge extra per month for each additional phone.

Where have I gone wrong?
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I've been with Cingular for almost a year and it strikes me as sort of odd,
how my plan is 39.99, but my bill is always over $50. It would also depend
on your area, I'm in the DC area with Cingular GSM and it sort of sucks,
lots of dropped calls, erratic signal, etc. They should have completed the
GSM network before selling service to it. But that just my 2 cents.

"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Either one is always going to give you the shaft, either with
> billing, contracts, or some other misc bs.
>
>

In article <[email protected]>,
"(Pete Cresswell)" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Where have I gone wrong?

Their desire to charge for what they can charge for.

In article <[email protected]>,
"HC" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've been with Cingular for almost a year and it strikes me as sort of odd,
> how my plan is 39.99, but my bill is always over $50.

Yup, I got $45 in recurring charges at SprintPCS, and my bill is over
$57 with taxes and fees and recovery costs.

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:27:10 -0400, "HC" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I've been with Cingular for almost a year and it strikes me as sort of odd,
>how my plan is 39.99, but my bill is always over $50. It would also depend
>on your area, I'm in the DC area with Cingular GSM and it sort of sucks,
>lots of dropped calls, erratic signal, etc. They should have completed the
>GSM network before selling service to it. But that just my 2 cents.
>
>"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Either one is always going to give you the shaft, either with
>> billing, contracts, or some other misc bs.
>>
>>
>
I agree with that, totally, AT&T wireless said in there store
tonight it would be 18 months before anything was final

Yep, my plan is 49.99 and my wife's is 19.99, yet my bill each month
is OVER $100. (usually around $115) And neither one of us goes over
our package minutes.

Irritating.

Dan



On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:27:10 -0400, "HC" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I've been with Cingular for almost a year and it strikes me as sort of odd,
>how my plan is 39.99, but my bill is always over $50. It would also depend
>on your area, I'm in the DC area with Cingular GSM and it sort of sucks,
>lots of dropped calls, erratic signal, etc. They should have completed the
>GSM network before selling service to it. But that just my 2 cents.
>
>"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Either one is always going to give you the shaft, either with
>> billing, contracts, or some other misc bs.
>>
>>
>

"Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> > I've been with Cingular for almost a year and it strikes me as sort of odd,
> > how my plan is 39.99, but my bill is always over $50.
>
> Yup, I got $45 in recurring charges at SprintPCS, and my bill is over
> $57 with taxes and fees and recovery costs.

I'm in Denver. My T-Mobile bill's recurring charges this month
wereare $45.03- ($39.99 plan + $4.99 WAP + 5-cents for one text
message) and my total bill was $49.96.

A taxes really that much higher where you guys live? Prior to this,
in Kansas City last year, my cellphone taxes were about the same- my
$65/month two-phone Cingular bill was just under $72.

RE/
>A taxes really that much higher where you guys live?

On my March bill (Cingular, Philadelphia PA), there was

"Regulatory cost recovery fee" $3.00
FED universal SVC charge", 1.19
"State GR surcharge" 2.48
"Federal excise tax" 1.53
"State Sales tax" 3.11

All over-and-above the stated $45/month.
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PeteCresswell

"Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> I'm in Denver. My T-Mobile bill's recurring charges this month
> wereare $45.03- ($39.99 plan + $4.99 WAP + 5-cents for one text
> message) and my total bill was $49.96.
>
> A taxes really that much higher where you guys live?

Interesting..... on a corporate discount plan with Nextel, my wife's phone
incurs more in taxes and fees than that on a cheaper rate plan in Colorado
Springs. $29.95 becomes almost $37.00.

Neither. ATT.

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"(Pete Cresswell)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> RE/
> >A taxes really that much higher where you guys live?
>
> On my March bill (Cingular, Philadelphia PA), there was
>
> "Regulatory cost recovery fee" $3.00
> FED universal SVC charge", 1.19
> "State GR surcharge" 2.48
> "Federal excise tax" 1.53
> "State Sales tax" 3.11
>
> All over-and-above the stated $45/month.
> --
> PeteCresswell

"iBuyMinis.Us" <[email protected](remove)> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Neither. ATT.
>

Apples or oranges?

Neither. Apples

"Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "iBuyMinis.Us" <[email protected](remove)> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Neither. ATT.
> >
>
> Apples or oranges?
>
> Neither. Apples
>
>
I believe he said RED apples.

> > Apples or oranges?
> >
> > Neither. Apples
> >
> >
> I believe he said RED apples.
>

As opposed to RED apples? Cingular customers have always (AFAIK) roamed
freely and easily on the ATT network. Recently, that same coverage was
offered to ATT customers. That is, ATT customers now roam freely and easily
on the Cingular network. That's the way it should be, considering they are
the same company. Yeah, I know the deal isn't finalized yet, but that's a
mere formality. If you sign up with ATT now, you will be using the cingular
network NOW, and you will be a cingular customer before your contract
expires. So it's silly to answer (cingular or verizon?) with (neither.
Cingular) -Dave