Quad mode phone?

According to phonescoop at
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510

This phone is slated for release later this year. No carrier is
designated, but when it does come out, it will force one of the major
CDMA carriers (Sprint or Verizon) to work with Cingular / AT&T.

(Quoted from http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510 )
More info including pictures can be found there.

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The first phone in the world to support voice and data on both CDMA
and GSM networks. Key features include dual color displays, a
megapixel camera with flash, MP3 player, memory card slot,
speakerphone, advanced voice dialing, and e-mail client.

Planned Availability: 2nd Half 2004

This phone has not been released yet. All specifications and features
are preliminary and subject to change.


Specifications Compare vs...

Modes CDMA 800 / CDMA 1900 / GSM 900 / GSM 1800

Weight 4.06 oz (115g)

Dimensions 3.70" x 1.93" x 0.92" (94mm x 49mm x 23mm)

Form Factor Clamshell

Battery Life Talk: 4.17 hours
Standby: 185 hours (7.7 days)

Battery Type LiIon

Display Type: LCD (Color)
Size: 176x220 pixels
262,000 colors / TFT

Platform / OS (N/A)

Phone Book Capacity 500

FCC ID ?

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TechGeek wrote:
> According to phonescoop at
> http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510
>
> This phone is slated for release later this year. No carrier is
> designated, but when it does come out, it will force one of the major
> CDMA carriers (Sprint or Verizon) to work with Cingular / AT&T.
>

Between the BREW support and the GSM support, this looks like a Verizon
phone. Verizon even has a little GSM coverage out there.
-mike

Thank you for the information.

This phone, nor any phone, will ever "force" a major CDMA carrier, or
any carrier, to work with another. It may encourage such cooperation,
but it is unlikely.

On 6 May 2004 07:16:30 -0700, [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:

>According to phonescoop at
>http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510
>
>This phone is slated for release later this year. No carrier is
>designated, but when it does come out, it will force one of the major
>CDMA carriers (Sprint or Verizon) to work with Cingular / AT&T.
>
>(Quoted from http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510 )
>More info including pictures can be found there.
>
>******************************************
>The first phone in the world to support voice and data on both CDMA
>and GSM networks. Key features include dual color displays, a
>megapixel camera with flash, MP3 player, memory card slot,
>speakerphone, advanced voice dialing, and e-mail client.
>
>Planned Availability: 2nd Half 2004
>
>This phone has not been released yet. All specifications and features
>are preliminary and subject to change.
>
>
>Specifications Compare vs...
>
>Modes CDMA 800 / CDMA 1900 / GSM 900 / GSM 1800
>
>Weight 4.06 oz (115g)
>
>Dimensions 3.70" x 1.93" x 0.92" (94mm x 49mm x 23mm)
>
>Form Factor Clamshell
>
>Battery Life Talk: 4.17 hours
>Standby: 185 hours (7.7 days)
>
>Battery Type LiIon
>
>Display Type: LCD (Color)
>Size: 176x220 pixels
>262,000 colors / TFT
>
>Platform / OS (N/A)
>
>Phone Book Capacity 500
>
>FCC ID ?

"TechGeek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> According to phonescoop at
> http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510
>
> This phone is slated for release later this year. No carrier is
> designated, but when it does come out, it will force one of the major
> CDMA carriers (Sprint or Verizon) to work with Cingular / AT&T.
>
Well, Cingular & ATT both use 800 & 1900 freqs. The GSM freqs listed are 900
& 1800, which are used in Europe. Right?

Bob

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:

> http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510

Back last January this was talked about as a phone for Verizon,
as their 45% partner Vodaphone runs GSM in Europe, and they'd like to
have a phone for use on both sides of the Atlantic.

There's no major advantage for a SprintPCS phone to do GSM.

> This phone is slated for release later this year. No carrier is
> designated, but when it does come out, it will force one of the major
> CDMA carriers (Sprint or Verizon) to work with Cingular / AT&T.

It looks like the only frequencies that the phone supports as far as GSM
is concerned are European frequencies. It doesn't look like the phone is
designed as a American GSM roaming phone, but rather to provide world
roaming for users of the American CDMA network.

"Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> TechGeek wrote:
> > According to phonescoop at
> > http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510
> >
> > This phone is slated for release later this year. No carrier is
> > designated, but when it does come out, it will force one of the major
> > CDMA carriers (Sprint or Verizon) to work with Cingular / AT&T.
> >
>
> Between the BREW support and the GSM support, this looks like a Verizon
> phone. Verizon even has a little GSM coverage out there.
> -mike
>
Looks to me like a Verizon phone for overseas roaming. The GSM bands
(900/1800) aren't U.S. bands. It won't force any CDMA company to work with
any GSM company in the U.S.

Mark


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In alt.cellular Mike <[email protected]> wrote:

> Between the BREW support and the GSM support, this looks like a Verizon
> phone. Verizon even has a little GSM coverage out there.

Verizon does not have any GSM coverage.

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TechGeek wrote:
> According to phonescoop at
> http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510
>
> This phone is slated for release later this year. No carrier is
> designated, but when it does come out, it will force one of the major
> CDMA carriers (Sprint or Verizon) to work with Cingular / AT&T.


http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireles...ubles-up_x.htm

In article <[email protected]>,
Mike <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireles...doubles-up_x.h
> tm

Thank you. That is the conformation story to the earlier story I vaguely
remembered.

In article <[email protected]>,
Steven J Sobol <[email protected]> wrote:

> In alt.cellular Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Between the BREW support and the GSM support, this looks like a Verizon
> > phone. Verizon even has a little GSM coverage out there.
>
> Verizon does not have any GSM coverage.

But their 45% share holder Vodaphone does in Europe, and its for them
that this phone is coming forth:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireles...izon-doubles-u
p_x.htm

In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Thank you for the information.
>
>This phone, nor any phone, will ever "force" a major CDMA carrier, or
>any carrier, to work with another. It may encourage such cooperation,
>but it is unlikely.
>
>On 6 May 2004 07:16:30 -0700, [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:
>
>>According to phonescoop at
>>http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510
>>
>>This phone is slated for release later this year. No carrier is
>>designated, but when it does come out, it will force one of the major
>>CDMA carriers (Sprint or Verizon) to work with Cingular / AT&T.
>>
>>(Quoted from http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510 )
>>More info including pictures can be found there.
<< SNIP>>
>>Modes CDMA 800 / CDMA 1900 / GSM 900 / GSM 1800

Note that this phone will NOT allow one to roam on US GSM carriers,
since it has GSM functionality only on the non-US GSM bands.
It is intended ONLY to allow US CDMA users to roam on overseas
GSM systems, rather than having to get a separate GSM phone. It will
not work on GSM systems in the US.

In alt.cellular Robert M. <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Steven J Sobol <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In alt.cellular Mike <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Between the BREW support and the GSM support, this looks like a Verizon
>> > phone. Verizon even has a little GSM coverage out there.
>>
>> Verizon does not have any GSM coverage.
>
> But their 45% share holder Vodaphone does in Europe, and its for them
> that this phone is coming forth:

I know. I was addressing the specific statement made Mike. Verizon definitely
doesn't have native GSM coverage. You are correct that the phone is meant to
be used for European roaming. Presumably Verizon will be pushing their
International Traveler international GSM roaming plan to people that buy the
phone. (No, I haven't read the USA Today article yet.)

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[email protected]lid (CharlesH) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
> Note that this phone will NOT allow one to roam on US GSM carriers,
> since it has GSM functionality only on the non-US GSM bands.
> It is intended ONLY to allow US CDMA users to roam on overseas
> GSM systems, rather than having to get a separate GSM phone. It will
> not work on GSM systems in the US.

Yeah, my brain wasn't quite awake when I posted that this morning.

Thanx for pointing it out.

"Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (TechGeek) wrote:
>
> > http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=510
>
> Back last January this was talked about as a phone for Verizon,
> as their 45% partner Vodaphone runs GSM in Europe, and they'd like to
> have a phone for use on both sides of the Atlantic.
>
> There's no major advantage for a SprintPCS phone to do GSM.

While it could be easier and cheaper for Verizon do to it, there are
still many benefits of Sprint were to carry it.

Sprint has many customers (business and consumer) who travel between
the US and Europe, it could open the door to a whole new level of
international roaming, no need to lease or purchase a seperate phone
etc..

So, now we need a phone that can handle:

CDMA 800 / 1900
GSM 800 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

Six-mode, quad band. I bet the first ones will be big (just look at
the dimentions of that Motorola!).