Quad mode phone? (Perfect for TracFone)

This phone would be ideal for Tracfone to pickup and add to their line up!

Currently the TracFone GSM phone has no roaming charge nationwide, but
their CDMA/TDMA phones deduct twice the local rate per minute when roaming.
The GSM network coverage is not as good as the CDMA/TDMA coverage
nationally, so using this phone would effectively allow the TracFone user to
choose the carrier with the lowest rate when roaming either manually or
through programming.

Using this phone with TracFone, it would have the best coverage around
because TracFone has agreements with nearly all the major carriers already.
Also, the roaming rates would disappear totally. Calls nationally for all
TracFone users using this phone would be at the local rate.

I bet this phone will make prepaid competitive with postpaid, even for power
users. It will definitely come closer to leveling the playing field for
prepaid vs. postpaid plans than anything else to come along since the
industry's converstion to digital.

Might be a good time to buy some stock in Motorola!

Josh III
upstate south carolina
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Thank you for the information.
>
> This phone, nor any phone, will ever "force" a major CDMA carrier, or
> any carrier, to work with another. It may encourage such cooperation,
> but it is unlikely.

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"Josh III" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> This phone would be ideal for Tracfone to pickup and add to their line up!
>
> Currently the TracFone GSM phone has no roaming charge nationwide, but
> their CDMA/TDMA phones deduct twice the local rate per minute when
roaming.
> The GSM network coverage is not as good as the CDMA/TDMA coverage
> nationally, so using this phone would effectively allow the TracFone user
to
> choose the carrier with the lowest rate when roaming either manually or
> through programming.

This phone is GSM 900/1800 MHz, with 800/1900 MHz CDMA. The
GSM won't work in this nation, but Vodaphone might give
TracFone a good deal in the UK. Quad-band, dual-digital;
just four modes.

John C.

Darn! Well if they can put CDMA and GSM in the same phone, they can and
should make one with CDMA and TDMA & GSM.

Oh Well will have to wait another year for that one I guess.


"John Cummings" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> This phone is GSM 900/1800 MHz, with 800/1900 MHz CDMA. The
> GSM won't work in this nation, but Vodaphone might give
> TracFone a good deal in the UK. Quad-band, dual-digital;
> just four modes.
>
> John C.
>
>

Yes, they *could*, Josh, but why would they want to?
TDMA is a dead-end technology.
---JRC---

"Josh III" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
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> Darn! Well if they can put CDMA and GSM in the same phone, they can =
and
> should make one with CDMA and TDMA & GSM.
>=20
> Oh Well will have to wait another year for that one I guess.
>=20
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> "John Cummings" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > This phone is GSM 900/1800 MHz, with 800/1900 MHz CDMA. The
> > GSM won't work in this nation, but Vodaphone might give
> > TracFone a good deal in the UK. Quad-band, dual-digital;
> > just four modes.
> >
> > John C.
>

In alt.cellular Josh III <[email protected]> wrote:

> Using this phone with TracFone, it would have the best coverage around

It would have no coverage. It doesn't run on the US GSM frequencies. It's
meant for roaming in Europe.

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"Josh III" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Darn! Well if they can put CDMA and GSM in the same phone, they can and
> should make one with CDMA and TDMA & GSM.
>
> Oh Well will have to wait another year for that one I guess.
>

And analog.


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Thomas M. Goethe

"John R. Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Yes, they *could*, Josh, but why would they want to?
> TDMA is a dead-end technology.

Not to mention that Josh kind of missed the point about the Motorola.
Verizon didn't commission this phone to allow US users better
coverage, but to allow Verizon customers the ability to roam
internationally. I suppose they'll use this to quash any potential
advantage Cingular AT&T and T-Mo might claim to have by offering
"world phones".

Combo US frequency CDMA/GSM phones aren't really an advantage to any
carrier, since it's not in any carrier's best interest to allow you
roam on "enemy" carriers, regardless of how advantageous it might be
for the consumer! ;-)

The dr offers: a conversation about phones with a VZW supervisor today
talked about new phones being tri-mode. But he clarified that these new
tri-mode phones would "not" include analog, but add the GSM capability. He
called it the new world phone from Verizon. The dr.

What we were talking about was originally tri-mode phones, and how those
folks in the "boonies" not being able to get reception, if their area was
still analog. He (customer service) reminded me that analog is end of life,
and that the new tri-modes include two flavors of digital plus the gsm. The
phones that I had seen included analog, but he was "sure" that the new
phones would be gsm + digital: aka world-phone.

"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In alt.cellular Josh III <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Using this phone with TracFone, it would have the best coverage around
>
> It would have no coverage. It doesn't run on the US GSM frequencies. It's
> meant for roaming in Europe.
>
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"John R. Copeland" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Yes, they *could*, Josh, but why would they want to?
> TDMA is a dead-end technology.
> ---JRC---

TDMA is a dead technology.

As for an 800MHz CDMA / GSM and 1900MHz CDMA / GSM phone, I think it
would be a hit in this country. No matter who carried it, imagine
either Sprint and Cingular or Verizon and Cingular having a roaming
agreement with that handset? That would be a **HUGE** coverage area.

Not only that, doesn't many islands in the Carrebean (Jamaica for
example) use GSM 800 or 1900?) What about South & Central America?

You could have a western hemisphere phone.

In alt.cellular Dr.wireMORE <[email protected]> wrote:
> The dr offers: a conversation about phones with a VZW supervisor today
> talked about new phones being tri-mode. But he clarified that these new
> tri-mode phones would "not" include analog, but add the GSM capability. He
> called it the new world phone from Verizon. The dr.

Yes. I almost posted that it was a world phone, but the world phones up
until now have been European GSM and American GSM. This one would be
European GSM and American CDMA, but I'd say it still qualifies as a world
phone...

> What we were talking about was originally tri-mode phones, and how those
> folks in the "boonies" not being able to get reception, if their area was
> still analog. He (customer service) reminded me that analog is end of life,
> and that the new tri-modes include two flavors of digital plus the gsm. The
> phones that I had seen included analog, but he was "sure" that the new
> phones would be gsm + digital: aka world-phone.

All of them...? I hope not.

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>He (customer service) reminded me that analog is end of life,

"And they stab it with their steely knives, but they just can't kill the
beast."

> and that the new tri-modes include two flavors of digital plus the gsm.
> he was "sure" that the new phones would be gsm + digital:

(Sorry, I can't let that one slip by)
And what exactly is GSM, if GSM is not digital? :-)

In article <[email protected]>,
"N9WOS" <[email protected]> wrote:

> >He (customer service) reminded me that analog is end of life,
>
> "And they stab it with their steely knives, but they just can't kill the
> beast."
>
> > and that the new tri-modes include two flavors of digital plus the gsm.
> > he was "sure" that the new phones would be gsm + digital:
>
> (Sorry, I can't let that one slip by)
> And what exactly is GSM, if GSM is not digital? :-)

It's AT&TWS speak. They call TDMA digital, and GSM "New Technology".

> > (Sorry, I can't let that one slip by)
> > And what exactly is GSM, if GSM is not digital? :-)
>
> It's AT&TWS speak. They call TDMA digital, and GSM "New Technology".

But it was a VZW supervisor that used that "speak".
With CDMA as "Digital" and GSM as "something else"
Now that is psychological warfare if I have ever seen it. :-)

In article <[email protected]>,
"N9WOS" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > > (Sorry, I can't let that one slip by)
> > > And what exactly is GSM, if GSM is not digital? :-)
> >
> > It's AT&TWS speak. They call TDMA digital, and GSM "New Technology".
>
> But it was a VZW supervisor that used that "speak".
> With CDMA as "Digital" and GSM as "something else"
> Now that is psychological warfare if I have ever seen it. :-)

Maybe an EST graduate. You can easily frame the discussion by inventing
your own vocabulary.

"Stuart Friedman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I wonder whether it would also work on the S. Korean CDMA system.

As I've read (here), Verizon will need to
load a special PRL in your phone by cable,
in a service location, to get your phone
ready for Korean roaming. When you return,
the Korean PRL can be overwritten by *228.
I'd say yes.

John C.