Getting ready to change from Sprint - looking at cingular

>
> Fine, but Sprint with its roaming agreements covers 97% of the area of
> the U.S., a GSM phone with no analog is closer to 20% (or is that a high
> number?).

I travel the U.S. extensively. In my experience, my GSM handsets have
worked in 100% of the area I've needed them to. -Dave

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>Yes, Cingular is the only company that I'm aware of that is "True" nation,
>Doesn't matter who's towers your using, as long as your in the US you will
>not receive a roaming charge

The AT&T Digital One Rate has no roaming charges either.

They were the first!

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In article <[email protected]>, "Dave C." <[email protected]>
wrote:

> >
> > Fine, but Sprint with its roaming agreements covers 97% of the area of
> > the U.S., a GSM phone with no analog is closer to 20% (or is that a high
> > number?).
>
> I travel the U.S. extensively. In my experience, my GSM handsets have
> worked in 100% of the area I've needed them to. -Dave

Not what I said. What percentage of the land area of the 48 states is
covered by GSM? If you look at the maps its a spider web.

You obviously dont go to rural areas.

In article <[email protected]>, "Dave C." <[email protected]>
wrote:

> >
> > No GSM phone fits her requirements, since she needs to have true
> > National Coverage, and without analog capability, she'd have a lifeless
> > phone too often.
>
> Do you actually travel nationally? I do. I can't imagine someone saying
> GSM won't work for someone who needs national coverage. I've GOT national
> coverage on Cingular nation GSM, and it works great.

If you stay in the big cities and on most Interstates.

Try driving from new Orleans to Los Angeles, and then tell me about
coverage.

In article <[email protected]>,
ME <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Røbert M." <[email protected]> wrote in news:rmarkoff-
> [email protected]:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > No GSM phone fits her requirements, since she needs to have true
> > National Coverage, and without analog capability, she'd have a lifeless
> > phone too often.
> >
>
>
> Robert - people have probably asked this before, but I am curious. You seem
> to post negative comments to many news groups about cell phones, but only
> seem to favor Sprint. You dont' do so in a way that would actually
> encourage people to try Sprint. You do it instead by bashing everything
> else, which I think only pisses people off. So if you are tryint to sell
> Sprint, I think you need to change your tactics. If you are just trolling
> for fun, you are doinga good job.
>
> Do you work for or sell Sprint service? I'm just curious.

My only relationship with SprintPCS is that I am currently a customer,
I have previously been a customer of GTE, Primco, Aerial and Cingular,
and almost AT&T.

I try to be a curmudgeon as all Cellular Carriers deserve it. They
treat their customers as a piece of cash flow once they are in contract,
which is why they are all rated half a step above Cable TV, and below
all other businesses. I regard all cellular carriers as highly unethical
in the way they treat customers, and I resent the supporters of any
given carrier misrepresenting the services. GSM coverage is a case in
point. Its a spider web. Please name a GSM phone that has analog
capability.

In article <[email protected]>, "Dave C." <[email protected]>
wrote:

> > But if you have a GSM phone it likely doesn't have analog, so you only
> > have coverage along the spiderweb (with swiss cheese holes) of GSM
> > coverage, and no coverage in analog areas where she might currently roam.
> > I know of no currently sold Cingular GSM phone that has analog
> > capability. You'd need a TDMA phone from Cingular for that, and TDMA is
> > "going away". For truly national coverage that leaves only CDMA
> > carriers. Sprint, Alltell and Verizon.
> >
>
> I travel extensively. Don't let this guy scare you away from GSM. If you
> don't have analog, you won't miss it. GSM coverage is great. -Dave

If you get away from big cities or major interstates, you will miss it.

Don't let this Cingular apologist mislead you. Look at the maps. GSM
coverage looks like a Spider web.

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected]pamfree (John S.) wrote:

> >Yes, Cingular is the only company that I'm aware of that is "True" nation,
> >Doesn't matter who's towers your using, as long as your in the US you will
> >not receive a roaming charge
>
> The AT&T Digital One Rate has no roaming charges either.
>
> They were the first!

A TDMA plan, for phones with TDMA and analog capability.

>
> Not what I said. What percentage of the land area of the 48 states is
> covered by GSM? If you look at the maps its a spider web.
>
> You obviously dont go to rural areas.

I go to more rural areas than I care to. -Dave

>
> If you stay in the big cities and on most Interstates.
>
> Try driving from new Orleans to Los Angeles, and then tell me about
> coverage.

Serious question . . . have you ever even HAD a Cingular GSM handset? No
service is perfect, but the garbage you are spouting is hilarious to someone
who has travelled extensively with one. I suspect you have a bias against
Cingular for some reason that has nothing to do with quality of
ervice. -Dave

In article <[email protected]>,
"Røbert M." <[email protected]> wrote:

> Don't let this Cingular apologist mislead you. Look at the maps. GSM
> coverage looks like a Spider web.

https://www.attwireless.com/global/m...ip=98052&map=Y
&zipInput=Y&mapDisplay=nationalgsm/gprs

I wouldn't call that a spiderweb.

And it will only get better....

>
> If you get away from big cities or major interstates, you will miss it.
>
> Don't let this Cingular apologist mislead you. Look at the maps. GSM
> coverage looks like a Spider web.

How could I be an apologist when there is nothing to apologize for? I've
tried every major carrier out there except Sprint. Cingular Nation GSM
isn't perfect, but it's a pretty darn good deal . . . especially for someone
who travels a lot . . . and no, you don't need to stay near big cities or
major interstates to find a signal, either. I don't care about any coverage
map. I've got personal experience to draw on. If you get a signal, do you
give a rat's ass if your area isn't on the map? For that matter, if you
don't get a signal, will it make you feel better to see your area on the
map? Cingular GSM has great coverage. Now why are you trying so hard to
trash Cingular? Why? -Dave (a Cingular customer)

In article <[email protected]>,
"Røbert M." <[email protected]> wrote:

> Try driving from new Orleans to Los Angeles, and then tell me about
> coverage.

Ah, the beauty of choice. If that's what you do, get the cell phone
that works for you.

But what if that's not what you do? Then why would you care?

You seem to think anyone who wants to do so much as boil a pot of water
should invest in Emeril's kitchen, otherwise don't even think about even
the pot of water. Well, that's not how the world works.

I avoided GSM until now, because for my purposes it finally became
workable. For your purposes, you'll have to wait and use non-GSM cell
phone service. Fine and dandy.

But because YOU have to wait, does that mean EVERYONE has to wait?

https://www.attwireless.com/global/m...ip=98052&map=Y
&zipInput=Y&mapDisplay=nationalgsm/gprs

Not a spiderweb at all. Sure, when you hit out west, where virtually no
one lives, those will be the last places to get GSM. I can live with
that.

If you consider how many people are touched by GSM right now, it's
pretty amazing.

Again, don't ridicule me for not having dual infrared air-circulating
ovens and a 6 top range with 25K btu output each and 3 dishwashers and
an industrial icemaker when all I want to do is cook a simple meal for
my family.

I'm one of those tens of millions who actually work and live in
metropolitan areas, who are touched by plenty of GSM coverage wherever I
travel. Whee-o. It's nice to live in the 2000s. What are the 80s
like, Robert?

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:49:37 GMT, "Robert M." <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>As an existing SprintPCS customer, you should be able to get 750 minutes
>for $40/month from SprintPCS' Retention group if you have a good payment
>history.
>
>Google alt.cellular.sprintpcs for the Retention FAQ

More minutes don't help if you can't get a signal.

Deb

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 05:26:25 -0500, "Jack D. Russell, Sr."
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>That's strange. My T720 (GSM) is the exact opposite. Not slow, great
>signal almost everywhere, and the alarm clock (as well as reminders)
>works great. I have 3 of them and they all perform well. I'd agree
>with the poster that said it fits her requirements.

How is the ringer and speaker volume? I've read some reports that it
is not very loud.


Deb

Hello

We have to back this user up.... Cingular has to many holes. We travel
all over and cingular was real poor on there GSM. Sprint or Verizon
for now is the way to go. Or a old TDMA phone with Analog, Give it a
few years

From Steve
Fleet ops

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 20:44:08 -0400, "Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote:

>>
>> If you get away from big cities or major interstates, you will miss it.
>>
>> Don't let this Cingular apologist mislead you. Look at the maps. GSM
>> coverage looks like a Spider web.
>
>How could I be an apologist when there is nothing to apologize for? I've
>tried every major carrier out there except Sprint. Cingular Nation GSM
>isn't perfect, but it's a pretty darn good deal . . . especially for someone
>who travels a lot . . . and no, you don't need to stay near big cities or
>major interstates to find a signal, either. I don't care about any coverage
>map. I've got personal experience to draw on. If you get a signal, do you
>give a rat's ass if your area isn't on the map? For that matter, if you
>don't get a signal, will it make you feel better to see your area on the
>map? Cingular GSM has great coverage. Now why are you trying so hard to
>trash Cingular? Why? -Dave (a Cingular customer)
>

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