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  1. #1
    DynoSauR
    Guest
    I currently have a GSM Nation plan with 500 minutes for $40 and an
    additional phone for $10 more on the same plan. The problem that has just
    developed is that my inlaws bought a lake house close to Smithville, TN
    which is east of Nashville and my GSM phone has no service in that area.
    There actually is a full scale signal on our Sony T616 GSM only phones
    around Smithville but, it says no network or no coverage and I can't dial
    anything. I think that Verizon probably is the full scale signal I am
    seeing on my phone but, since Cingular probably doesn't share with Verizon I
    have no coverage in that area. My current contract ends in a few months and
    I either need to change plans now or at the end of my contract when I might
    have more leverage with Cingular. I was thinking that since the GAIT
    coverage map covers the area
    http://onlinestore.cingular.com/html...n_GAIT_map.htm I might
    change to that plan with a Nokia 6340i or a Sony T62u phone. Which one of
    those phones is best to use with Cingular's GAIT plans? My current GSM plan
    has good coverage west of Nashville, TN but, their coverage east of
    Nashville could certainly be improved as seen on this map
    http://onlinestore.cingular.com/html...on_GSM_map.htm My other
    alternatives appear to be Sprint or Verizon. Sprint looks to have better
    prices than Verizon and about the same coverage by roaming off Verizon or
    some other cellular providers. Has anyone here negotiated a good deal
    changing from their GSM to a GAIT plan? And which phone is better to use
    with GAIT? Thanks much.



    See More: Which is better 6340i or T62u? I'm going to GAIT or another company.




  2. #2
    Philip Lewis
    Guest

    Re: Which is better 6340i or T62u? I'm going to GAIT or another company.

    I would say you had better hurry if you want GAIT. I think they are about
    to pull the rug on it. You cannot get the phones on Cingular Internet any
    more, but some of the stores still have them. I think the Nokia 6340i is
    the way to go and that they phased out the T62u previously.

    I have the same problem in New England and would be out of luck with a GSM
    plan. That said, CDMA is not everywhere either. Finding a CDMA phone with
    AMPS is getting tougher too.


    "DynoSauR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I currently have a GSM Nation plan with 500 minutes for $40 and an
    > additional phone for $10 more on the same plan. The problem that has just
    > developed is that my inlaws bought a lake house close to Smithville, TN
    > which is east of Nashville and my GSM phone has no service in that area.
    > There actually is a full scale signal on our Sony T616 GSM only phones
    > around Smithville but, it says no network or no coverage and I can't dial
    > anything. I think that Verizon probably is the full scale signal I am
    > seeing on my phone but, since Cingular probably doesn't share with Verizon

    I
    > have no coverage in that area. My current contract ends in a few months

    and
    > I either need to change plans now or at the end of my contract when I

    might
    > have more leverage with Cingular. I was thinking that since the GAIT
    > coverage map covers the area
    > http://onlinestore.cingular.com/html...n_GAIT_map.htm I might
    > change to that plan with a Nokia 6340i or a Sony T62u phone. Which one of
    > those phones is best to use with Cingular's GAIT plans? My current GSM

    plan
    > has good coverage west of Nashville, TN but, their coverage east of
    > Nashville could certainly be improved as seen on this map
    > http://onlinestore.cingular.com/html...on_GSM_map.htm My other
    > alternatives appear to be Sprint or Verizon. Sprint looks to have better
    > prices than Verizon and about the same coverage by roaming off Verizon or
    > some other cellular providers. Has anyone here negotiated a good deal
    > changing from their GSM to a GAIT plan? And which phone is better to use
    > with GAIT? Thanks much.






  3. #3
    Chris Russell
    Guest

    Re: Which is better 6340i or T62u? I'm going to GAIT or another company.

    Verizon does not have ANY GSM service, they are strictly CDMA, so the signal
    you are picking up in Smithville is T-Mobile or ATTWS (the only GSM carriers
    licensed in DeKalb county, TN)-both of which you should be able to roam on.

    To see what carrier has good service there, talk to people in the area, see
    what kind of reception they are getting. Check out any cellular stores to
    get an idea which carriers have service there (in some carrier is not
    represented, their service is probably poor).

    If you like the GSM-only phones that you have, the GAIT phones will be a
    disappointment. I know from personal experience, the 6340i is lousy on
    Cingular 850mhz transition systems (much of the Cingular system-one of the
    reasons I paid the ETF and left Cingular for Sprint PCS Free & Clear America
    this past spring).

    Chris

    "DynoSauR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >I currently have a GSM Nation plan with 500 minutes for $40 and an
    > additional phone for $10 more on the same plan. The problem that has just
    > developed is that my inlaws bought a lake house close to Smithville, TN
    > which is east of Nashville and my GSM phone has no service in that area.
    > There actually is a full scale signal on our Sony T616 GSM only phones
    > around Smithville but, it says no network or no coverage and I can't dial
    > anything. I think that Verizon probably is the full scale signal I am
    > seeing on my phone but, since Cingular probably doesn't share with Verizon
    > I
    > have no coverage in that area. My current contract ends in a few months
    > and
    > I either need to change plans now or at the end of my contract when I
    > might
    > have more leverage with Cingular. I was thinking that since the GAIT
    > coverage map covers the area
    > http://onlinestore.cingular.com/html...n_GAIT_map.htm I might
    > change to that plan with a Nokia 6340i or a Sony T62u phone. Which one of
    > those phones is best to use with Cingular's GAIT plans? My current GSM
    > plan
    > has good coverage west of Nashville, TN but, their coverage east of
    > Nashville could certainly be improved as seen on this map
    > http://onlinestore.cingular.com/html...on_GSM_map.htm My other
    > alternatives appear to be Sprint or Verizon. Sprint looks to have better
    > prices than Verizon and about the same coverage by roaming off Verizon or
    > some other cellular providers. Has anyone here negotiated a good deal
    > changing from their GSM to a GAIT plan? And which phone is better to use
    > with GAIT? Thanks much.






  4. #4
    Cary
    Guest

    Re: Which is better 6340i or T62u? I'm going to GAIT or another company.


    "Philip Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I would say you had better hurry if you want GAIT. I think they are about
    > to pull the rug on it. You cannot get the phones on Cingular Internet any
    > more, but some of the stores still have them. I think the Nokia 6340i is
    > the way to go and that they phased out the T62u previously.
    >
    > I have the same problem in New England and would be out of luck with a GSM
    > plan. That said, CDMA is not everywhere either. Finding a CDMA phone

    with
    > AMPS is getting tougher too.
    >
    >


    Here in the Detroit area Cingular still sells the t62u on its website along
    with a full complement of nation GAIT calling plans. The 6340i, however, is
    no longer listed.
    -- Cary






  5. #5
    Bob Walker
    Guest

    Re: Which is better 6340i or T62u? I'm going to GAIT or another company.


    "DynoSauR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    my inlaws bought a lake house close to Smithville, TN
    > which is east of Nashville and my GSM phone has no service in that area.


    And which phone is better to use
    > with GAIT? Thanks much.


    I have had a T62u for about 18 months & have travelled in some pretty rural
    areas, including places where others were unable to get phone service. I
    have never been without service. I think GAIT is the way to go if you don't
    have to have all the latest whistles and bells. The phones make phone
    calls....whereever!

    Bob





  6. #6
    DynoSauR
    Guest

    Re: Which is better 6340i or T62u? I'm going to GAIT or another company.


    "Bob Walker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "DynoSauR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    > my inlaws bought a lake house close to Smithville, TN
    > > which is east of Nashville and my GSM phone has no service in that area.

    >
    > And which phone is better to use
    > > with GAIT? Thanks much.

    >
    > I have had a T62u for about 18 months & have travelled in some pretty

    rural
    > areas, including places where others were unable to get phone service. I
    > have never been without service. I think GAIT is the way to go if you

    don't
    > have to have all the latest whistles and bells. The phones make phone
    > calls....whereever!
    >
    > Bob


    I've got around 3 months left on my current GSM plan with Cingular and I'll
    call Monday to see if I can get my plan changed to the GAIT plan without
    much trouble. My main concern is whether Cingular will work with me on a
    second phone. I only pay $10 a month for my second phone currently. That's
    just what it cost when I signed up for the $40/500 minute GSM nation plan
    when I first signed up. I see now that they've gone up to $20 for a second
    phone. I would drop back to 1 phone if I had to pay $20 for another phone
    and the GAIT plan I would want has 400 minutes with rollover. I also have
    over 1,000 rollover minutes with my current plan and it'd be nice to get
    them transferred over to the GAIT plan. That GAIT plan only gives 1,000
    night and weekend minutes but, I don't talk that much so that's not really
    an issue especially if with rollover minutes available. I also don't want
    to sign up for a 2 year contract and it would be nice if I could buy used
    GAIT phones and have them activated with no problem or possibly the SIM
    cards in my current Sony T616 phones could be put into the GAIT phones and
    they would work. I don't know but, hopefully I'll know something by Monday.
    Thanks

    Ben





  7. #7
    Rock
    Guest

    Re: Which is better 6340i or T62u? I'm going to GAIT or another company.



    >
    > I've got around 3 months left on my current GSM plan with Cingular and

    I'll
    > call Monday to see if I can get my plan changed to the GAIT plan without
    > much trouble. My main concern is whether Cingular will work with me on a
    > second phone. I only pay $10 a month for my second phone currently.

    That's
    > just what it cost when I signed up for the $40/500 minute GSM nation plan
    > when I first signed up. I see now that they've gone up to $20 for a

    second
    > phone. I would drop back to 1 phone if I had to pay $20 for another phone
    > and the GAIT plan I would want has 400 minutes with rollover. I also have
    > over 1,000 rollover minutes with my current plan and it'd be nice to get
    > them transferred over to the GAIT plan. That GAIT plan only gives 1,000
    > night and weekend minutes but, I don't talk that much so that's not really
    > an issue especially if with rollover minutes available. I also don't want
    > to sign up for a 2 year contract and it would be nice if I could buy used
    > GAIT phones and have them activated with no problem or possibly the SIM
    > cards in my current Sony T616 phones could be put into the GAIT phones and
    > they would work. I don't know but, hopefully I'll know something by

    Monday.
    > Thanks
    >
    > Ben
    >
    >

    I have been using a 6340i for about 1 1/2 years now and have had excellent
    results with it. It has great reception and have been using it from northern
    Michigan to southern Florida with no problems.





  8. #8
    Stanley Reynolds
    Guest

    Re: Which is better 6340i or T62u? I'm going to GAIT or another company.

    The T62u will do GPRS the 6340i will not. I had a 6340i for over a year it
    will get messed up roaming maybe once ever few weeks. The phone either
    turns it's self off or "No Service" display which only clears after turning
    the phone off and back on. The web browser locks up almost ever use. Over
    all the 6340i has been a good phone but then I like Nokia phones.



  9. #9
    DynoSauR
    Guest

    Re: Which is better 6340i or T62u? I'm going to GAIT or another company.

    What are the advantages of GPRS? Practical? I currently have the little
    Sony T616 GSM only phones and they are pretty cute and easy to use. I may
    try to get one of each off Ebay.
    "Stanley Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > The T62u will do GPRS the 6340i will not. I had a 6340i for over a year it
    > will get messed up roaming maybe once ever few weeks. The phone either
    > turns it's self off or "No Service" display which only clears after

    turning
    > the phone off and back on. The web browser locks up almost ever use. Over
    > all the 6340i has been a good phone but then I like Nokia phones.






  10. #10
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: Which is better 6340i or T62u? I'm going to GAIT or another company.

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Sun, 22 Aug 2004 20:39:22
    -0500, "DynoSauR" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >What are the advantages of GPRS? ...


    High-speed data.

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  11. #11
    John Cummings
    Guest

    Re: Which is better 6340i or T62u? I'm going to GAIT or another company.

    "DynoSauR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I currently have a GSM Nation plan with 500 minutes for $40 and an
    > additional phone for $10 more on the same plan. The problem that has just
    > developed is that my inlaws bought a lake house close to Smithville, TN
    > which is east of Nashville and my GSM phone has no service in that area.
    > There actually is a full scale signal on our Sony T616 GSM only phones
    > around Smithville but, it says no network or no coverage and I can't dial
    > anything. I think that Verizon probably is the full scale signal I am
    > seeing on my phone but, since Cingular probably doesn't share with Verizon

    I
    > have no coverage in that area. My current contract ends in a few months

    and
    > I either need to change plans now or at the end of my contract when I

    might
    > have more leverage with Cingular. I was thinking that since the GAIT
    > coverage map covers the area
    > http://onlinestore.cingular.com/html...n_GAIT_map.htm I might
    > change to that plan with a Nokia 6340i or a Sony T62u phone. Which one of
    > those phones is best to use with Cingular's GAIT plans?


    I've used and been satisfied with the Nokia 6340i since December 2001.

    > My current GSM plan
    > has good coverage west of Nashville, TN but, their coverage east of
    > Nashville could certainly be improved as seen on this map
    > http://onlinestore.cingular.com/html...on_GSM_map.htm My other
    > alternatives appear to be Sprint or Verizon. Sprint looks to have better
    > prices than Verizon and about the same coverage by roaming off Verizon or
    > some other cellular providers. Has anyone here negotiated a good deal
    > changing from their GSM to a GAIT plan? And which phone is better to use
    > with GAIT? Thanks much.


    That coverage on the GAIT National plan is from Advantage Cellular System:
    http://www.advantagecell.com/map.htm
    Studying their phone offering shows they are TDMA; they are cellular B-band,
    opposite Verizon.

    As a Nashville market customer, you can get a GAIT phone and plan. It is not
    a (visible) option for a Knoxville market customer.

    John C.





  12. #12
    DynoSauR
    Guest

    Re: Which is better 6340i or T62u? I'm going to GAIT or another company.

    "John Cummings" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > That coverage on the GAIT National plan is from Advantage Cellular System:
    > http://www.advantagecell.com/map.htm
    > Studying their phone offering shows they are TDMA; they are cellular

    B-band,
    > opposite Verizon.
    >
    > As a Nashville market customer, you can get a GAIT phone and plan. It is

    not
    > a (visible) option for a Knoxville market customer.
    >
    > John C.


    Thanks for the info. That enlightened me quite a bit about who Cingular has
    an agreement with up there. I'm pretty familiar with the area up there but,
    haven't paid much attention to the cellular providers around Smithville, TN.
    It's a small town and Center Hill lake is the main attraction around there.
    I did in fact win a Nokia 6340i GAIT phone off Ebay last night for $23
    including shipping and it's in the box and has SIM. I called Cingular today
    and even with me having 3 months left on my contract the lady said it would
    be no problem to swap me over to a GAIT plan and that I just needed to call
    Cingular back once my GAIT phone has arrived for them to set it up. She
    also said my current rollover minutes which are currently over 1,000 could
    be rolled over to the new GAIT plan as long as the GAIT plan was also a
    rollover plan. So I'll get the 400 minute GAIT plan with rollover and 1,000
    minutes for weekends and nights for $45. That plan looks pretty comparable
    to the Sprint Free and Clear with 500 minutes and the $5 Free and Clear
    America option for the same $45 which lets you roam all over with no roaming
    charges. I don't have to sign up for another contract with Cingular so I'll
    ride the GAIT out and see how things go. I do wonder if it is possible to
    be on the Cingular GAIT plan and still Roam on a provider that does not have
    an agreement with Cingular to where I ,might be charged a roaming fee? The
    GAIT map looks to have great coverage all over the U.S. and it's sure been
    nice with the Cingular GSM plan to never have any roaming charges. I hope
    GAIT is the same way.

    Ben
    ke4rzi





  13. #13
    Chris Russell
    Guest

    Re: Which is better 6340i or T62u? I'm going to GAIT or another company.

    If you are on a GAIT Nation plan, Cingular Extend doesn't mean anything rate
    or roaming wise. Any signal you pick up and let's you make a call will use
    plan minutes and not charge anything additional.

    Chris

    "John Cummings" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "DynoSauR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> "John Cummings" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >> > That coverage on the GAIT National plan is from Advantage Cellular

    > System:
    >> > http://www.advantagecell.com/map.htm
    >> > Studying their phone offering shows they are TDMA; they are cellular

    >> B-band,
    >> > opposite Verizon.
    >> >
    >> > As a Nashville market customer, you can get a GAIT phone and plan. It
    >> > is

    >> not
    >> > a (visible) option for a Knoxville market customer.
    >> >
    >> > John C.

    >>
    >> Thanks for the info. That enlightened me quite a bit about who Cingular

    > has
    >> an agreement with up there. I'm pretty familiar with the area up there

    > but,
    >> haven't paid much attention to the cellular providers around Smithville,

    > TN.
    >> It's a small town and Center Hill lake is the main attraction around

    > there.
    >> I did in fact win a Nokia 6340i GAIT phone off Ebay last night for $23
    >> including shipping and it's in the box and has SIM. I called Cingular

    > today
    >> and even with me having 3 months left on my contract the lady said it

    > would
    >> be no problem to swap me over to a GAIT plan and that I just needed to

    > call
    >> Cingular back once my GAIT phone has arrived for them to set it up. She
    >> also said my current rollover minutes which are currently over 1,000
    >> could
    >> be rolled over to the new GAIT plan as long as the GAIT plan was also a
    >> rollover plan. So I'll get the 400 minute GAIT plan with rollover and

    > 1,000
    >> minutes for weekends and nights for $45. That plan looks pretty

    > comparable
    >> to the Sprint Free and Clear with 500 minutes and the $5 Free and Clear
    >> America option for the same $45 which lets you roam all over with no

    > roaming
    >> charges. I don't have to sign up for another contract with Cingular so

    > I'll
    >> ride the GAIT out and see how things go. I do wonder if it is possible
    >> to
    >> be on the Cingular GAIT plan and still Roam on a provider that does not

    > have
    >> an agreement with Cingular to where I ,might be charged a roaming fee?

    > The
    >> GAIT map looks to have great coverage all over the U.S. and it's sure
    >> been
    >> nice with the Cingular GSM plan to never have any roaming charges. I
    >> hope
    >> GAIT is the same way.
    >>
    >> Ben
    >> ke4rzi

    >
    > That's the only questionable part--when "Cingular Extend" is showing, is
    > this call included or $.79/minute? I don't test this enough, I've been
    > willing to take the GAIT National map at face value. I don't travel
    > enough,
    > either. The example of roaming where I make the most calls is Ouchitah
    > Parish, Louisiana. Cingular covers with PCS Monroe and Bastrop, US-167 and
    > I-20. ATTWS covers most of northern Louisiana on cellular. Cingular plans
    > show complete northern coverage, and my 6340i shows "Cingular" in rural
    > areas where ATTWS is alone. If it's available to the local plan, it seems
    > to
    > be included.
    >
    > Since your 6340i includes a SIM, presumably GAIT, you should be able to do
    > it all by phone. Since Cingular has laid off all of their store
    > technicians,
    > there's not much reason to go by in person. Call in by another phone when
    > you're ready, where there's good light (and a magnifier <grin>) to read
    > out
    > IMEI, ESN and the number on the SIM (forgot that acronym!).
    >
    > Getting your phone numbers from your present GSM phone to the 6340i could
    > be
    > by infra-red, if available on your present phone. The 6340i has a good
    > phone
    > memory phonebook, that lets one name have several numbers under it. Or
    > copy
    > from present phone's memory to GAIT SIM, and insert into 6340i, setting to
    > "use SIM memory" for phonebook. Later, copy from SIM to phone, combining
    > as
    > possible under one name, one by one.
    >
    > John C.
    >
    >






  14. #14
    John Cummings
    Guest

    Re: Which is better 6340i or T62u? I'm going to GAIT or another company.

    "DynoSauR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "John Cummings" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > That coverage on the GAIT National plan is from Advantage Cellular

    System:
    > > http://www.advantagecell.com/map.htm
    > > Studying their phone offering shows they are TDMA; they are cellular

    > B-band,
    > > opposite Verizon.
    > >
    > > As a Nashville market customer, you can get a GAIT phone and plan. It is

    > not
    > > a (visible) option for a Knoxville market customer.
    > >
    > > John C.

    >
    > Thanks for the info. That enlightened me quite a bit about who Cingular

    has
    > an agreement with up there. I'm pretty familiar with the area up there

    but,
    > haven't paid much attention to the cellular providers around Smithville,

    TN.
    > It's a small town and Center Hill lake is the main attraction around

    there.
    > I did in fact win a Nokia 6340i GAIT phone off Ebay last night for $23
    > including shipping and it's in the box and has SIM. I called Cingular

    today
    > and even with me having 3 months left on my contract the lady said it

    would
    > be no problem to swap me over to a GAIT plan and that I just needed to

    call
    > Cingular back once my GAIT phone has arrived for them to set it up. She
    > also said my current rollover minutes which are currently over 1,000 could
    > be rolled over to the new GAIT plan as long as the GAIT plan was also a
    > rollover plan. So I'll get the 400 minute GAIT plan with rollover and

    1,000
    > minutes for weekends and nights for $45. That plan looks pretty

    comparable
    > to the Sprint Free and Clear with 500 minutes and the $5 Free and Clear
    > America option for the same $45 which lets you roam all over with no

    roaming
    > charges. I don't have to sign up for another contract with Cingular so

    I'll
    > ride the GAIT out and see how things go. I do wonder if it is possible to
    > be on the Cingular GAIT plan and still Roam on a provider that does not

    have
    > an agreement with Cingular to where I ,might be charged a roaming fee?

    The
    > GAIT map looks to have great coverage all over the U.S. and it's sure been
    > nice with the Cingular GSM plan to never have any roaming charges. I hope
    > GAIT is the same way.
    >
    > Ben
    > ke4rzi


    That's the only questionable part--when "Cingular Extend" is showing, is
    this call included or $.79/minute? I don't test this enough, I've been
    willing to take the GAIT National map at face value. I don't travel enough,
    either. The example of roaming where I make the most calls is Ouchitah
    Parish, Louisiana. Cingular covers with PCS Monroe and Bastrop, US-167 and
    I-20. ATTWS covers most of northern Louisiana on cellular. Cingular plans
    show complete northern coverage, and my 6340i shows "Cingular" in rural
    areas where ATTWS is alone. If it's available to the local plan, it seems to
    be included.

    Since your 6340i includes a SIM, presumably GAIT, you should be able to do
    it all by phone. Since Cingular has laid off all of their store technicians,
    there's not much reason to go by in person. Call in by another phone when
    you're ready, where there's good light (and a magnifier <grin>) to read out
    IMEI, ESN and the number on the SIM (forgot that acronym!).

    Getting your phone numbers from your present GSM phone to the 6340i could be
    by infra-red, if available on your present phone. The 6340i has a good phone
    memory phonebook, that lets one name have several numbers under it. Or copy
    from present phone's memory to GAIT SIM, and insert into 6340i, setting to
    "use SIM memory" for phonebook. Later, copy from SIM to phone, combining as
    possible under one name, one by one.

    John C.





  15. #15
    DynoSauR
    Guest

    Re: Which is better 6340i or T62u? I'm going to GAIT or another company.

    Well we can just forget about this entire thread because when I got up this
    morning I went and looked at the Cingular website like I've been doing for
    the past few days and to my surprise there were "no" GAIT plans listed on
    the website. So when I got home for lunch I called customer service again
    to make sure I could still get my GAIT phone activated when it gets here and
    this time the lady shows no record of any available GAIT plans what so ever.
    So I'm stuck with the new Nokia 6340i until I can get it back on Ebay and I
    guess when my contract runs out in 3 months I'll be swapping to Sprint's
    Free and Clear America plan which appears to have the same or better
    coverage than the GAIT plan did have. This really sucks. I was looking
    forward to getting signed up with a GAIT plan.

    Ben





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