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- 09-12-2004, 02:39 PM #1ALGuest
If this is true, why not follow current technology and trending, and make
capable of both bands, simple, easy, and no coverage problems no matter
where they end up, whether Florida, Georgia or any place else in the US.
I hope Cinguilar is not that stupid to order something so limited.
AL
"John S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > The guy there said that Cingular's
> >network in Florida is both 850 and 1900 MHz GSM, so my phone will
> >be fine.
>
> But, but, but...... Where it is 800 it is JUST 800 and where it is 1900 it
is
> JUST 1900. Yes, in Florida there are both spectrums but no where that I
know of
> is it both in the same market.
>
> I just finished 3 COWS to go to Florida for disaster relief. We did 2 at
800
> and 1 at 1900 because there was uncertainty where the COWS might be needed
> after the storm passed.
>
> --
> John S.
> e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net
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- 09-12-2004, 05:23 PM #2N9WOSGuest
Re: Cell phone bands (GSM 1900?) at Disney World
"AL" <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eu21d.6154$%O5.5893@trnddc07...
> If this is true, why not follow current technology and trending, and make
> capable of both bands, simple, easy, and no coverage problems no matter
> where they end up, whether Florida, Georgia or any place else in the US.
>
> I hope Cinguilar is not that stupid to order something so limited.
Up to this point, cingular only has 1900Mhz GMS in California.
1900Mhz only phones were sold.
And the fact that a lot of them came from Tmobile.
After the by out, then they will have 800/1900.
All the cingular 1900 only phones disappeared from the shelves.
They are making sure that the new users will be able to fully use
the new network.
- 09-12-2004, 07:48 PM #3JosephGuest
Re: Cell phone bands (GSM 1900?) at Disney World
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:23:19 GMT, "N9WOS" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Up to this point, cingular only has 1900Mhz GMS in California.
Not true! cingular is also 1900 Mhz only in the Carolinas and in some
other small areas.
>1900Mhz only phones were sold.
>And the fact that a lot of them came from Tmobile.
Huh? What hat did you pull that one out of?
cingular has been selling dual band 850/1900 phones since they started
rolling out GSM 850.
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- 09-13-2004, 10:00 AM #4Ralph BlachGuest
Re: Cell phone bands (GSM 1900?) at Disney World
I live in the Carolinas and only having a 1900 network is a pain.
So I was disappointed that Cingular did not pick up any 800 mhz spectrum
in the Carolinas.
Chip
Joseph wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 23:23:19 GMT, "N9WOS" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Up to this point, cingular only has 1900Mhz GMS in California.
>
>
> Not true! cingular is also 1900 Mhz only in the Carolinas and in some
> other small areas.
>
>
>>1900Mhz only phones were sold.
>>And the fact that a lot of them came from Tmobile.
>
>
> Huh? What hat did you pull that one out of?
>
> cingular has been selling dual band 850/1900 phones since they started
> rolling out GSM 850.
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- 09-13-2004, 02:04 PM #5JosephGuest
Re: Cell phone bands (GSM 1900?) at Disney World
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:00:04 -0400, Ralph Blach
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I live in the Carolinas and only having a 1900 network is a pain.
And why is it a "pain?"
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- 09-13-2004, 11:05 PM #6Ralph BlachGuest
Re: Cell phone bands (GSM 1900?) at Disney World
Joseph wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:00:04 -0400, Ralph Blach
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>I live in the Carolinas and only having a 1900 network is a pain.
>
>
> And why is it a "pain?"
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Because it leads to lower coverage because there have to be more towers.
Cingular has terrible mountain coverage because of this
Chip
- 09-14-2004, 08:49 AM #7Jim MacKenzieGuest
Re: Cell phone bands (GSM 1900?) at Disney World
I had good GSM coverage at DisneyWorld last December. Mostly I was on AT&T
but occasionally I was on T-Mobile. I had an 850/1900 phone but I'm not
sure if either provider has 850 service there.
Jim
- 09-14-2004, 11:46 AM #8Ralph BlachGuest
Re: Cell phone bands (GSM 1900?) at Disney World
Jim,
Florida has good coverage, I will concede that absolutely.
It is the mountians of western North carolina that 1900 fails.
you need to many towers and Cingular has bad coverage there.
My family has taken may vacations there and not having cell coverage is
very incovinent. Many of the main tourist traps are not covered, like
cheerokee, nc.
These places just have be covered.
(Sprint does not have the problem because they roam over to Altel or
Verizon).
Like it or not, people just expect there cell phone to work everywhere.
IMHO
Jim MacKenzie wrote:
> I had good GSM coverage at DisneyWorld last December. Mostly I was on AT&T
> but occasionally I was on T-Mobile. I had an 850/1900 phone but I'm not
> sure if either provider has 850 service there.
>
> Jim
>
>
- 09-14-2004, 01:30 PM #9Jim MacKenzieGuest
Re: Cell phone bands (GSM 1900?) at Disney World
"Ralph Blach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Florida has good coverage, I will concede that absolutely.
>
> It is the mountians of western North carolina that 1900 fails.
We have the same issue. One network here in Canada, Fido, has done well
with 1900 only. Its coverage density is as good as anybody's and better in
most cases, despite the lesser signal propogation. Their network is
smaller, though. However, it proves that good 1900 networks can be built.
Our TDMA provider, Rogers, retrofitted its network with GSM 1900 and found
that it had a lot of coverage holes because the tower spacing was built for
850. Once it retrofitted again with GSM 850, network coverage became quite
good again.
You're right - people do expect phones to work everywhere and they don't.
Where I live (Saskatchewan), there are a lot of places where phones don't
work. That's just the way it is. Choose your network according to its cost
and your needs for coverage.
Jim
- 09-14-2004, 02:01 PM #10Ralph BlachGuest
Re: Cell phone bands (GSM 1900?) at Disney World
I wish, somebody would put an gsm 800, 850, or 1900 leo system in place.
This would sort of remove the coverage issue.
Chip
Jim MacKenzie wrote:
> "Ralph Blach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Florida has good coverage, I will concede that absolutely.
>>
>>It is the mountians of western North carolina that 1900 fails.
>
>
> We have the same issue. One network here in Canada, Fido, has done well
> with 1900 only. Its coverage density is as good as anybody's and better in
> most cases, despite the lesser signal propogation. Their network is
> smaller, though. However, it proves that good 1900 networks can be built.
>
> Our TDMA provider, Rogers, retrofitted its network with GSM 1900 and found
> that it had a lot of coverage holes because the tower spacing was built for
> 850. Once it retrofitted again with GSM 850, network coverage became quite
> good again.
>
> You're right - people do expect phones to work everywhere and they don't.
> Where I live (Saskatchewan), there are a lot of places where phones don't
> work. That's just the way it is. Choose your network according to its cost
> and your needs for coverage.
>
> Jim
>
>
- 09-14-2004, 02:47 PM #11JohnGuest
Re: Cell phone bands (GSM 1900?) at Disney World
Just returned from maybe our 70th visit.......... no, not kidding-- just
stupid!
Have used AT&T, Verizon, and Cingular. This trip--Cingular. V600, so all 4
bands enabled, I believe. (GSM only......)
Worst coverage of these 3 carriers was Cingular, by far.
IMHO!
John
"Ralph Blach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Joseph wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:00:04 -0400, Ralph Blach
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I live in the Carolinas and only having a 1900 network is a pain.
>>
>>
>> And why is it a "pain?"
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> Because it leads to lower coverage because there have to be more towers.
>
> Cingular has terrible mountain coverage because of this
>
> Chip
- 09-14-2004, 04:35 PM #12Ralph BlachGuest
Re: Cell phone bands (GSM 1900?) at Disney World
John,
I have never had anyproblems at Disney.
Chip
John wrote:
> Just returned from maybe our 70th visit.......... no, not kidding-- just
> stupid!
>
> Have used AT&T, Verizon, and Cingular. This trip--Cingular. V600, so all 4
> bands enabled, I believe. (GSM only......)
>
> Worst coverage of these 3 carriers was Cingular, by far.
>
> IMHO!
> John
>
>
> "Ralph Blach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Joseph wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:00:04 -0400, Ralph Blach
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I live in the Carolinas and only having a 1900 network is a pain.
>>>
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>>>And why is it a "pain?"
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>>Because it leads to lower coverage because there have to be more towers.
>>
>>Cingular has terrible mountain coverage because of this
>>
>>Chip
>
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- 09-14-2004, 04:38 PM #13JosephGuest
Re: Cell phone bands (GSM 1900?) at Disney World
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:46:50 -0400, Ralph Blach
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Like it or not, people just expect there cell phone to work everywhere.
Oy!
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- 09-14-2004, 04:41 PM #14JosephGuest
Re: Cell phone bands (GSM 1900?) at Disney World
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:01:03 -0400, Ralph Blach
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I wish, somebody would put an gsm 800, 850, or 1900 leo system in place.
Uh, 800 and 850 are the same thing!!!!!!!!!! Many operators including
cingular and AT&T Wireless run both 850 and 1900 in the same area.
Often for just capacity issues.
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- 09-14-2004, 11:30 PM #15Guest
Re: Cell phone bands (GSM 1900?) at Disney World
To: all of you in the group i work for Cingular Wirless have for the last
three years.
"AL" <al145 @ delete.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eu21d.6154$%O5.5893@trnddc07...
> If this is true, why not follow current technology and trending, and make
> capable of both bands, simple, easy, and no coverage problems no matter
> where they end up, whether Florida, Georgia or any place else in the US.
>
> I hope Cinguilar is not that stupid to order something so limited.
>
> AL
>
> "John S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> > The guy there said that Cingular's
>> >network in Florida is both 850 and 1900 MHz GSM, so my phone will
>> >be fine.
>>
>> But, but, but...... Where it is 800 it is JUST 800 and where it is 1900
>> it
> is
>> JUST 1900. Yes, in Florida there are both spectrums but no where that I
> know of
>> is it both in the same market.
>>
>> I just finished 3 COWS to go to Florida for disaster relief. We did 2 at
> 800
>> and 1 at 1900 because there was uncertainty where the COWS might be
>> needed
>> after the storm passed.
>>
>> --
>> John S.
>> e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net
>
>
>
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